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JooJooFlop impressed everyone with:
Good thing they arn't, eh?
WE ANGER THE ALMIGHTY!
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The propaganda machine of Drysart's junta released this statement:
....such as?
Two straight guys getting married to get lower taxes and health benefits.
Because a man and a woman have never gotten married purely for financial conveniences, no sir. There are no loveless marriages in this great Christian nation of ours. Karnaj fucked around with this message on 04-03-2004 at 08:53 PM.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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JooJooFlop had this to say about Cuba:
Good thing they arn't, eh?
Well, in Azziza's perfect world abortion would be illegal but prostitution wouldn't.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Trent said:
So.. gay prositution should be legal too then...
Yep.
If it was a legitamate taxable form of employment, man, tax money to be found in that. Especially since most aren't paying taxes if they are hookers anyway, or at least not as much as they would be if thier trick money was taxable. It's an endless 'in demand' job even. I'd say make it legal.
Now, don't get me wrong, I find it disgusting, and it's so not a job I'd want my girls in. But I'll be the first to admit, once they are adults, I don't control their lives. There are other jobs I find morally objectionable, but they are legit forms of employment, why not prostitution. Make the CatHouses/Brothels a serious work place with helth/dental/vision benefits, and a real stable environment, and they'd make a killing.
There are a lot of people who would use hookers more if it wasn't legal as well, making the income even more. It's basically a win win in most cases, just distastefull in most cases.
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Karnaj came out of the closet to say:
Two straight guys getting married to get lower taxes and health benefits.
An infinitesimally small economic effect at best.
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Karnaj's account was hax0red to write:
There are no loveless marriages in this great Christian nation of ours.
Can you at least make it a jab at religion in general and not target Christians specifically? Talonus fucked around with this message on 04-03-2004 at 08:55 PM.
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We were all impressed when Zaza wrote:
Such as it being a crime against GOD so the LORD will surely PUNISH us by raining BRIMSTONE on the MARKET.
Where the Fuck do you get this? I dont' base my opinions on the bible any more than Drysart does.
Drysart,
Economic:
Like bankrupting Social Security overnight.
Forcing business to pay out equal benefits to a whole new pool of people, causing them to have to cut back.
On a Social level it causes a snowball affect.
Who will you have asking for Marriage rights next? Siblings? Perhaps a 30 year old Man who would want to marry his 14 year old GF.
What about roommates. They should be abble to marry just for the same rights and bennefits as everyone else.
I could go on but Dammit Merlin is a damn good movie and I want to watch it.
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Talonus came out of the closet to say:
Can you at least make it a jab at religion in general and not target Christians specifically?
Not all Christians. Just the loudmouthed ones who want to legislate their morals.
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From the book of Talonus, chapter 3, verse 16:
Can you at least make it a jab at religion in general and not target Christians specifically?
Damned dirty catholics!
Happy? 
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And now, we sprinkle Drysart liberally with Old Spice!
An infinitesimally small economic effect at best.
Exactly. The economic effect from straight people getting married for purely financial reasons is certainly larger, since the straight population is roughly 9 times the size of the gay population. But when gay people do it, it's somehow capable of turning us communist or something.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Delphi Aegis had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Damned dirty catholics!Happy?
Bastard.
And dammit, Azizza never answered my hooker question.
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And coming in at #1 is Talonus with "Reply." I'm Casey Casem.
Can you at least make it a jab at religion in general and not target Christians specifically?
I didn't realize that the loudest proponents of morality legislation were Zoroastrians. My apologies.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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A sleep deprived Zair stammered:
I just thought of something as well. Does it make ANY sense to have porno be legal but not prostitution? They are both essentially people getting payed for sex.
Porn's considered 'film making' and the stars in pornography get paid due to their acting. I'm pretty sure that's the bullshit reason for why porn's legal. I may be wrong. It's a bullshit reason either way.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Karnaj wrote:
I didn't realize that the loudest proponents of morality legislation were Zoroastrians. My apologies.
Karnaj > Me. 
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Blindy was all like:
So a woman can be completely mentally stable while disassociating sex with any relationship of any kind?
Just a minor point here, and not an attack, but there are both men AND women with this mindset, and they do perfectly fine with it. I'm sure lots of people here have run into at least one or two people who do not associate sex with ANY sort of commitment or relationship. Those people DO exist.
Also, with health benefits and such, as well as higher care and restrictions to be regulated your pregnancy and disease issues become moot. Not entirely incorrect, but still moot. Not to mention, for the ammount of money that can be made (In one night even, ESPECIALLY making it legit which cuts out the Pimps) would sufficiently keep any prostitute off of welfare.
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Liam was naked while typing this:
Porn's considered 'film making' and the stars in pornography get paid due to their acting. I'm pretty sure that's the bullshit reason for why porn's legal. I may be wrong. It's a bullshit reason either way.
And the male actor isn't paying the female actor to have sex, they are just getting paid to be filmed during a (normally) private act.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Karnaj said:
I didn't realize that the loudest proponents of morality legislation were Zoroastrians. My apologies.
I had to look it up...
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Zoroastrians are the followers of the great Iranian prophet, Spitaman Zarathushtra (known to the Greeks as Zoroaster). Zarathushtra lived and preached somewhere around the Aral Sea, about three and a half thousand years ago, circa 1500 B.C.E.
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Loosely translated, Azizza says "Kill the whales":
Where the Fuck do you get this? I dont' base my opinions on the bible any more than Drysart does.Drysart,
Economic:
Like bankrupting Social Security overnight.
Forcing business to pay out equal benefits to a whole new pool of people, causing them to have to cut back.On a Social level it causes a snowball affect.
Who will you have asking for Marriage rights next? Siblings? Perhaps a 30 year old Man who would want to marry his 14 year old GF.
What about roommates. They should be abble to marry just for the same rights and bennefits as everyone else.I could go on but Dammit Merlin is a damn good movie and I want to watch it.
What exactly prevents roomates that are a man and woman from getting married for financial benefits? Some overwhelming moral code that only effects the straight? Are you saying gay people could only possibly want to get married for the tax break?
Satchatory rape will still remain illegal if you legalize gay marriage, but exactly how do you think legalizing prostitution will effect teenagers who want to make a quick buck? You've just completely obliterated any chance you will ever have of making logical sense here. Just give up.
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Azizza thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Economic:
Like bankrupting Social Security overnight.
Forcing business to pay out equal benefits to a whole new pool of people, causing them to have to cut back.
What the **** kind of answer is that? Social Security is
going to go bankrupt anyway. Even knowing that, how can you POSSIBLY deny people benefits based purely on their sexual orientation. Oh n0es we can't give social security to the jews because that will bankrupt it!!! A better arguement would be that the U.S. is losing competitivness in the long term because our population cannot keep up with the up and coming economic powerhouses. (See China, India, EU... all will surpass the U.S. by the end of the century I am sure)
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There was much rejoicing when Karnaj said this:
I didn't realize that the loudest proponents of morality legislation were Zoroastrians. My apologies.
No, I was targetting more towards the fact that marriage is a general religion thing and not a Christian only thing. Plenty of legal male-female marriages take place that aren't Christian.
If you're going to be specific though, target Protestants. They're the vast majority of Christian elected officials. Hell, there's a stigma against Catholic officials. Talonus fucked around with this message on 04-03-2004 at 09:07 PM.
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Azizza came out of the closet to say:
Drysart,
Economic:
Like bankrupting Social Security overnight.
Forcing business to pay out equal benefits to a whole new pool of people, causing them to have to cut back.
For one, Social Security is already bankrupt. For two, those same people could just as easily go out and marry a woman and cause the same added benefits to be paid by their employers -- if you want to oppose gay marriage on that economic reason, you'd be much more effective by pushing for legislation reform to remove shared benefits from all married couples.
Of course, the idea that there would be a large enough number of gay marriages to noticably change the economics of Social Security and corporate health insurance plans is laughable to begin with, since according to a source you might find credible, less than 1% of the population is homosexual.
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Azizza came out of the closet to say:
On a Social level it causes a snowball affect.
Who will you have asking for Marriage rights next? Siblings? Perhaps a 30 year old Man who would want to marry his 14 year old GF.
What about roommates. They should be abble to marry just for the same rights and bennefits as everyone else.
No. No. And.... no. Applying a slippery slope argument to a case is generally only used when you have no real evidence to support your case as it stands, so you have to intentionally drive it to extremes before it becomes something worth worrying about (and in this case, unrelated extremes, I might add).
Provide me with some sources for your gloom and doom predictions about how everything would go to hell if those uppity gays could get married.
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Azizza wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Where the Fuck do you get this? I dont' base my opinions on the bible any more than Drysart does.Drysart,
Economic:
Like bankrupting Social Security overnight.
Forcing business to pay out equal benefits to a whole new pool of people, causing them to have to cut back.On a Social level it causes a snowball affect.
Who will you have asking for Marriage rights next? Siblings? Perhaps a 30 year old Man who would want to marry his 14 year old GF.
What about roommates. They should be abble to marry just for the same rights and bennefits as everyone else.I could go on but Dammit Merlin is a damn good movie and I want to watch it.
Because of course a 14yrold girl can give consent! Yes!
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Azizza had this to say about Duck Tales:
Where the Fuck do you get this? I dont' base my opinions on the bible any more than Drysart does.Drysart,
Economic:
Like bankrupting Social Security overnight.
Forcing business to pay out equal benefits to a whole new pool of people, causing them to have to cut back.On a Social level it causes a snowball affect.
Who will you have asking for Marriage rights next? Siblings? Perhaps a 30 year old Man who would want to marry his 14 year old GF.
What about roommates. They should be abble to marry just for the same rights and bennefits as everyone else.I could go on but Dammit Merlin is a damn good movie and I want to watch it.
Yes, because marriage between two adults of the same gender certainly is such an outrageous thing that it would mean marriage between a 2-year old and a goat could not be questioned.
(GOD SAYS SO)
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We were all impressed when Blindy wrote:Satchatory rape will still remain illegal if you legalize gay marriage, but exactly how do you think legalizing prostitution will effect teenagers who want to make a quick buck? You've just completely obliterated any chance you will ever have of making logical sense here. Just give up.
Satchatory rape will still remain illegal if you legalize prostitution, but exactly how do you think legalizing gay marriage will effect teenagers who want to be trendy/rebell?
note: I do not disagree with Gay Marriage, or being gay at all, but do believe it has become a 'trendy' thing. This does not mean there are no legit gays, or that gay is somehow wrong, it just means I think it has become a great way to push the envelope which we all as teenagers loved to do in various ways.
I mean, that's just development of the race (yes I used a naughty word such as development, and I know it's not an inherent feature to everyone in the race, but neither are Africans, or White people (Who knows which we started as.)) but due to something that occured a long time ago, and is now natural, should we discriminate against those that are like that?
Silly, I tell you. Pure silly. Liam fucked around with this message on 04-03-2004 at 09:13 PM.
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Pvednes had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Because of course a 14yrold girl can give consent! Yes!
Some places she can.
And not to long ago being married off at 14 was the norm.
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Faelynn LeAndris says po-ta-to, I say pa-ta-to:
Satchatory rape will still remain illegal if you legalize prostitution, but exactly how do you think legalizing gay marriage will effect teenagers who want to be trendy/rebell?note: I do not disagree with Gay Marriage, or being gay at all, but do believe it has become a 'trendy' thing. This does not mean there are no legit gays, or that gay is somehow wrong, it just means I think it has become a great way to push the envelope which we all as teenagers loved to do in various ways.
I was confused already by your argument and your note made it worse. Are you suggesting that legalizing gay marriage will directly result in trendy/rebellious teenagers sacking up with an old dude for shock value, while legalizing prostitution will not directly result in trendy/rebellious teenagers sacking up with an old dude for cash?
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Check out the big brain on Blindy!
I was confused already by your argument and your note made it worse. Are you suggesting that legalizing gay marriage will directly result in trendy/rebellious teenagers sacking up with an old dude for shock value, while legalizing prostitution will not directly result in trendy/rebellious teenagers sacking up with an old dude for cash?
Neither and both. Your argument towards him could be used against you as easily. They will both affect those areas in ways that may be seen as bad by someone else.
Which is why I made that note, that I don't disagree with gay marriages either. I was just reversing your argument. 
It works just as well against gay marriages as it does againts prostitution.
Why Gay Marriage Should Be Illegal-
Marriage has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman. It's worked well for millenia and I don't see a reason to change what is working. Look, we're not suggesting that we start hunting for gays and killing them, and we know that fags are recorded as far back as Rome, which makes that quite an old trend as well.
What many people don't seem to realize is that we may or may not agree with gays, but most of us are for letting them continue what we view as a rather unnatural act, but we want to protect what is one of the last bastions of linearality (sorry this was a joke between some friends and I...).
There are social and economic repercussions to having Gay marriage if you look. One of the most glaring is having kids and the traditional family. I know that if I were to be adopted as a very young person I would be mortified by having gay parents, especially as a guy... I'm not as sure about girls. Gays are still stigmatized in society and the child would face ridicule and it would not be something nice.
Now you may say adoption has nothing to do with marriage, but it does have to do with family. The issue is, the nuclear family is what has sustained america for the last century and people do not want to move away from it. The fairy family cannot work simply because it is missing key components. (like not having a slower...) Yes there are families with one parent etc, and that is a trend I would like to see go away to.
By allowing gay marriage, we open up a whole new can of worms regarding other family rights. Because marriage = family and that is what we try to protect.
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A sleep deprived Noxhil stammered:
Wow I guess these boards are pretty liberal... Azizza is getting dogpiled on. I think I'll play devils advocate then for this thread.Why Gay Marriage Should Be Illegal-
Marriage has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman. It's worked well for millenia and I don't see a reason to change what is working. Look, we're not suggesting that we start hunting for gays and killing them, and we know that fags are recorded as far back as Rome, which makes that quite an old trend as well.
What many people don't seem to realize is that we may or may not agree with gays, but most of us are for letting them continue what we view as a rather unnatural act, but we want to protect what is one of the last bastions of linearality (sorry this was a joke between some friends and I...).
There are social and economic repercussions to having Gay marriage if you look. One of the most glaring is having kids and the traditional family. I know that if I were to be adopted as a very young person I would be mortified by having gay parents, especially as a guy... I'm not as sure about girls. Gays are still stigmatized in society and the child would face ridicule and it would not be something nice.
Now you may say adoption has nothing to do with marriage, but it does have to do with family. The issue is, the nuclear family is what has sustained america for the last century and people do not want to move away from it. The fairy family cannot work simply because it is missing key components. (like not having a slower...) Yes there are families with one parent etc, and that is a trend I would like to see go away to.
By allowing gay marriage, we open up a whole new can of worms regarding other family rights. Because marriage = family and that is what we try to protect.
For many hundred years, carrying a piece of hot iron a number of steps was a way to show your innocence.
Not all traditions are good.
You can't impose your "family is a family" values on everyone. Sorry, but you can't. If you're gonna go like that, you might as well forbid divorce, define the woman's role as being home with the kids, and make her wear a burka.
Marriage is whatever the hell we make of it. You can't preserve the nuclear family like it was fifty years ago, no matter how much you want to.
There's no reason it should be illegal.
Also, since it was posted earlier;
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x--MortiousO-('-'Q) :
Rape should be legal then, since it happens in nature.Male dolphins have been studied gang-raping females, when the female obviously did not want it and was trying to get away.
Animals lack any capacity for cognative thought, and are thereby incapable of consciously either consenting or revoking sexual advances. One animal cannot "rape" another, this is a fallacy derived from the human desire to project traits that are exclusively human onto animals.
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Noxhil spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Wow I guess these boards are pretty liberal... Azizza is getting dogpiled on. I think I'll play devils advocate then for this thread.Why Gay Marriage Should Be Illegal-
Marriage has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman. It's worked well for millenia and I don't see a reason to change what is working. Look, we're not suggesting that we start hunting for gays and killing them, and we know that fags are recorded as far back as Rome, which makes that quite an old trend as well.
What many people don't seem to realize is that we may or may not agree with gays, but most of us are for letting them continue what we view as a rather unnatural act, but we want to protect what is one of the last bastions of linearality (sorry this was a joke between some friends and I...).
There are social and economic repercussions to having Gay marriage if you look. One of the most glaring is having kids and the traditional family. I know that if I were to be adopted as a very young person I would be mortified by having gay parents, especially as a guy... I'm not as sure about girls. Gays are still stigmatized in society and the child would face ridicule and it would not be something nice.
Now you may say adoption has nothing to do with marriage, but it does have to do with family. The issue is, the nuclear family is what has sustained america for the last century and people do not want to move away from it. The fairy family cannot work simply because it is missing key components. (like not having a slower...) Yes there are families with one parent etc, and that is a trend I would like to see go away to.
By allowing gay marriage, we open up a whole new can of worms regarding other family rights. Because marriage = family and that is what we try to protect.
Wow.. I think you should be shot just for the sheer amount of masked venom and overpassing derogatory usage alone...
Do you realize exactly how incredibly popular teenage prostitution is in other countries? Girls are whoring themselves out for ipods all over the damn place already. Legalizing any form of sex for money exchange nationally will not help.
I was gonna have my two cents on prostitution, but... things seem to be swaying a different direction. Lechium fucked around with this message on 04-03-2004 at 09:24 PM.
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There was much rejoicing when Noxhil said this:
Wow I guess these boards are pretty liberal... Azizza is getting dogpiled on. I think I'll play devils advocate then for this thread.Why Gay Marriage Should Be Illegal-
Marriage has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman. It's worked well for millenia and I don't see a reason to change what is working. Look, we're not suggesting that we start hunting for gays and killing them, and we know that fags are recorded as far back as Rome, which makes that quite an old trend as well.
What many people don't seem to realize is that we may or may not agree with gays, but most of us are for letting them continue what we view as a rather unnatural act, but we want to protect what is one of the last bastions of linearality (sorry this was a joke between some friends and I...).
There are social and economic repercussions to having Gay marriage if you look. One of the most glaring is having kids and the traditional family. I know that if I were to be adopted as a very young person I would be mortified by having gay parents, especially as a guy... I'm not as sure about girls. Gays are still stigmatized in society and the child would face ridicule and it would not be something nice.
Now you may say adoption has nothing to do with marriage, but it does have to do with family. The issue is, the nuclear family is what has sustained america for the last century and people do not want to move away from it. The fairy family cannot work simply because it is missing key components. (like not having a slower...) Yes there are families with one parent etc, and that is a trend I would like to see go away to.
By allowing gay marriage, we open up a whole new can of worms regarding other family rights. Because marriage = family and that is what we try to protect.
Wait... so having a set of gay parents makes you ridiculed in school? Wow. How horrible. They've been ridiculed for having a lazy eye, or a scar, or for talking funny, but OBVIOUSLY having two loving, caring fathers or mothers is SO SO SO much worse then anything else. Because you say so.
I really wish this was a flame thread.
Since that seems to be a big assumption of those who oppose gay marriage.
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Noxhil's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
There are social and economic repercussions to having Gay marriage if you look. One of the most glaring is having kids and the traditional family. I know that if I were to be adopted as a very young person I would be mortified by having gay parents, especially as a guy... I'm not as sure about girls. Gays are still stigmatized in society and the child would face ridicule and it would not be something nice.
Yeah, and people who are disfigured shouldn't have kids because it might cause their children embarrassment. Fat people shouldn't have children, because it may cause their children embarrassment or ridicule.
Sorry, but that is not a valid reason at all.
