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Poll: Smoker?
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Topic: Do you smoke?
BeauChan
Objects in sigpic may be hammier than they appear
posted 10-01-2003 12:57:36 PM
Once in a while, if i happen to go to the poolhall with my friends when i get home... I haven't since June, and that was only 2 cigarettes, so meh, I'll consider myself yes and no, and therefore can't answer properly.

I have never bought a pack of cigarettes (or owned one) I just usually bum one or two off my friend Lori.

I like the taste, and the smell, and sometimes I'll get minor cravings for one if I'm really stressed out and smell it, but I cans tand not having them. I too am a musician, so I'll never start doing it as a habit, I think one or two a year are good enough for me.

My mom had cancer (not from smoking mind you) and I do have a small chance of it. It kinda worries me, but not a lot. My mom and Dad smoked for 5 years before I was born, and they both stopped cold turkey when they found out my mom was pregnant, and never started up again.

My Grandma and Grandpa both smoked like chimneys (I'm hoping that doesn't offend anyone) and they're coughs were/are awful...

I now have a minor case of asthma (apparently) so I might cut down, I havne't smoked since I found out...

[ 10-01-2003: Message edited by: Beaukat ]

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Azrael Heavenblade
Damn Dirty Godmoder
posted 10-01-2003 02:20:47 PM
Another point about it is that it can sometimes make you do a 180 in your thoughts of a person. Well, for those who don't like smoking that is.

For example, when I'd people watch, my eyes would occasionally linger on a girl I thought was attractive or a guy I thought looked friendly, and then when they light up the girl turns ugly and my desire to meet the guy goes out the window.

It kind of makes me wonder sometimes...when so many people can't stand people who smoke, and you're at least halfway decent looking/acting, why would you ruin that with the kind of stigma being a smoker presents? I once overheard one of my classmates in high school who smoked ask her friend why she was having trouble getting dates, when she was every bit as attractive as some of most highly sought after girls in our grade. It made me want to walk right up to her and tell her it was because of the cancer stick clamped between her lips.

[ 10-01-2003: Message edited by: Azrael Heavenblade ]

"The basic tool for manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them." - Philip K. Dick
Mr. Parcelan
posted 10-01-2003 02:24:23 PM
Now that's just fucked up, Az. That's as bad as reaching for your wallet defensively when a black guy walks by, or wondering how cheap you can get your lawn mowed when you see a Mexican.

Just because a person smokes does not make them a bad person, unattractive, or what have you. That's a first impression conclusion-jump and it's retarded.

You have lost all privilege to speak on this subject further.

Azrael Heavenblade
Damn Dirty Godmoder
posted 10-01-2003 02:33:00 PM
That's not my point Parce, I've had friends that smoke, its just that when they do it, I can't be around them because I'll start to have a coughing fit. Maybe it's because of my lungs being so sensitive, but if a person is a smoker, I find it very hard to just be around with them, as I can still smell the stuff on them, and I've noticed a certain personality type among the kids here at college who smoke.

Equating that to being a racist is really reaching. And it's not just me, I've talked to my friends and they say they don't hang with people who smoke. Classmates I've asked rarely have friends/dates that smoke. They just don't like being around them for various reasons. There's just a certain model of a person that smokes that exists in people's minds, right or wrong, it's a stereotype, but more often than not it fits.

Even if that girl I mentioned might end up being sweet and kind, or that guy has an awesome personality and we could do cool stuff together, their smoking would seriously hinder what I could do with them, as sooner or later, either our friendship or my lungs would give out.

"The basic tool for manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them." - Philip K. Dick
Mr. Parcelan
posted 10-01-2003 02:42:39 PM
Still, you're equating them to being pariahs because you claim that they're a minority.

Unfortunately, you're a minority yourself. Not everyone is an asthmatic that dies every time someone lights up.

I wouldn't oust anyone for smoking. It's a personal choice that doesn't really hurt anyone (except you wheezers) and it seems a little scummy to treat them like outsiders because of their habit.

Azrael Heavenblade
Damn Dirty Godmoder
posted 10-01-2003 02:55:00 PM
If this thread's voting records are any indication, yes, they are a minority. I don't have the statistics off the top of my head, but smokers are a minority of the entire US population, and the number fluctuates every so often.

Did I once say that they are total outcasts? No, they have plenty of friends, in fact, a bunch of them are members of sororities/fraternities. It's just that unless you can stand it, you don't want to be near them all that often.

Now, if a person didn't light up every hour or so, but rather they did it when I wasn't around, or they went outside to smoke, I can stand that. I'm not saying that a person being a smoker makes me want to break off any relation at all with them, but it does lower my view of them, and there's a certain measure of disgust involved for what I view as a dangerous and filthy habit.

Does this make me a shallow, weak, whiny, angsty bitch who faints when a tendril of smoke wafts past? No, I'll cough a bit, but it takes some serious smoking to get me to leave or die. And don't make it sound like I'm alone in this. The past few exchanges have just been between us, but I'm sure that other people take an immediate dislike to someone who smokes, or at least has that color their impression of that person.

Stop putting words in my mouth that I hate everyone who smokes, or that I simply can't stand up to a little stress.

[ 10-01-2003: Message edited by: Azrael Heavenblade ]

"The basic tool for manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them." - Philip K. Dick
Mr. Parcelan
posted 10-01-2003 02:58:44 PM
I ain't putting words in your mouth, slapnuts.

You're the one that said you might just croak if you walked into a smoky hall. You're the one that wanted to tell a woman that nobody would go out with her because she smoked.

I merely cut around the bullshit and told it the way you meant to.

And a messageboard full of people who've never so much as seen a bottle of beer is not the best place to take a poll on who likes smoking.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 10-01-2003 03:05:35 PM
Holy crap, I'm agreeing with Parcelan twice in one day.
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 10-01-2003 03:31:23 PM
I kinda agree with Az here, actually. If I see a good looking girl pull out a cigarette, I sorta go, "Oh. Eew."

It's a huge turn-off, and not just because I can't stand the smell. It makes her look dirty, whether she is or not.

And in cases like this, the first impression is very often all you have to go by.

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 10-01-2003 05:51:08 PM
quote:
Drysart stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
What on Earth could convince you to decide that sticking dead leaves in your mouth, setting them on fire, and breathing in their ashes would be a good thing to start doing?

I'm not being facetious here; I can understand being addicted to cigarettes, I just don't understand why someone would consciously decide to start smoking.


When you're really tired and you're stressed out, you make odd decisions. I don't regret this one, at all. But it's quite easy to bum a cigarette from a friend who smokes when you're in that state, find it remidies your problems at the moment, (being stressed out with no way for your body to naturally unstress out), and decide to continue smoking for the benefits you get out of it. It probably wasn't the smartest decision of my life, but it was my decision and I will stick by it til I decide smoking isn't for me anymore.

Circumstances are everything for making decisions.

Burger
BANNED!
posted 10-01-2003 06:55:58 PM
I don't judge people based off if they smoke or not. Some of the nicest, kindest, wisest people I've ever met are chronic smokers. I have no problem being in a smoke filled room for hours, and I really don't mind talking with someone who is currently smoking.

The only thing I wouldn't do is date a smoker. I once did and she NEVER had a sweet tasting mouth, and that's a major turn off. The smell I don't mind, it's the taste of tobacco smoke on what should be sweet.

And to anyone that complains that being outside talking with someone smoking makes them cough, stand up wind.

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

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