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Trillee's fortune cookie read:
I'll stick to Pagan.I can't define it, it just is.
Pagan is not a religion!
We can argue Wicca all day, but there is no such religion as Pagan.
"Pagan" simply means "not Christian."
I'm pretty sure we've had this discussion before.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Peter had this to say about John Romero:
Maybe I am reading this wrong, But Lutheran communion, we hold that the wafer/bread and the wine are symbolicly Christ's flesh and blood, but they are still in reality a wafer/bread and wine- No transubsantion.
Then perhaps it is Episcopalians that are transubstantiationists. My apologies -- I am a nondenom and sometimes I get confused. Thanks for the clarification.
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Gydfather had this to say about Duck Tales:
Aquinas is real good stuff. I would highly recommend him.
Who is this "Aquinas"
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Falaanla Marr was listening to Cher while typing:
Who is this "Aquinas"
St. Thomas Aquinas was a Catholic philosopher in the 1200s. A lot of his stuff is really good.
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Sex is evil. Sex is a sin. All sins are forgiven so let's begin!
D. Agnostic (I dunno)
I want to believe, but I'm too cynical to have more than an operative philosophy based off of Taoism (which is not a religion, therefore I categorize myself as Agnostic).
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Everyone wondered WTF when Bloodsage wrote:
Pagan is not a religion!We can argue Wicca all day, but there is no such religion as Pagan.
"Pagan" simply means "not Christian."
I'm pretty sure we've had this discussion before.
So, what's the problem with her answer then? She didn't say "I'm of the Pagan Religion", she just said "I'll stick to Pagan". That's like saying "I'll stick to non-christian", isn't it?
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Falaanla Marr's fortune cookie read:
Who is this "Aquinas"
Revolutionary in the sense of, "Yes, it's ok to accept science, don't worry" I suggest all of you who are set against religion because it is supposedly against science to read his works.
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Gydfather stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
St. Thomas Aquinas was a Catholic philosopher in the 1200s. A lot of his stuff is really good.
His work also forms the basis of modern just war theory and international law regarding warfare.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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OtakuPenguin had this to say about Duck Tales:
Revolutionary in the sense of, "Yes, it's ok to accept science, don't worry" I suggest all of you who are set against religion because it is supposedly against science to read his works.
Religion doesn't mix with science--they are diametrically opposed methodologies.
Religious thought is in a centuries-long retreat from the advance of scientific thought, always taking yet another step backward, chanting, "Yeah, okay. . .but you still can't explain X phenomenon!"
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
His work also forms the basis of modern just war theory and international law regarding warfare.
Yes, yes it does. His texts were part of my Jurisprudence class in law school.
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So quoth Bloodsage:
Pagan is not a religion!We can argue Wicca all day, but there is no such religion as Pagan.
"Pagan" simply means "not Christian."
I'm pretty sure we've had this discussion before.
non christian from the country! get it right! ;P
And we can argue what I said all day because you'll need to prove me wrong, over what I choose to say when asked. I know pagan isn't a religion, but as I said I can't describe it. So I'll stick with just saying I'm pagan. It's easier for me, and a good deal of people I say that to gets it when I tell them "I'm pagan."
"Oh, you worship many gods then?"
"Yeah, in a way, I do."
And I don't have to get technical about it, unless they really want to know. But I'm lazy, and don't like shoven it in people's faces by getting into the long winded description of what I believe in.
As for Wicca, never said I was a part of that belief system. Never even mentioned it, so donno why you brought it up.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and OtakuPenguin was all like:
Gyd, you left out probably the biggest one.Us Catholics beleive that the communion IS Jesus.
The Bread and Wine are actually transformed, as opposed to symbolic.
That is one of my major points:
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-- Catholicism generally relates back to tradition and ritual. Every part of a mass has symbolic meaning, and according to Catholic teachings Communion is actually transformed into the literal body and blood of Christ. Catholicsim believes that the Christian faith is a three legged stool: Scripture, Revelation, and the traditions of the Church
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Bloodsage had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Religion doesn't mix with science--they are diametrically opposed methodologies.Religious thought is in a centuries-long retreat from the advance of scientific thought, always taking yet another step backward, chanting, "Yeah, okay. . .but you still can't explain X phenomenon!"
"The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false" To me, that means, 'Accept Science if it's proven, like evolution, so you don't make the rest of us look like Jackasses.'
And sorry Gyd, I didn't read your entire post
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and OtakuPenguin was all like:
And sorry Gyd, I didn't read your entire post
Then how did you know if I left something out? 
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Palador ChibiDragon wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
So, what's the problem with her answer then? She didn't say "I'm of the Pagan Religion", she just said "I'll stick to Pagan". That's like saying "I'll stick to non-christian", isn't it?
It doesn't make sense.
What religion are you?
I'm not Christian.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Trillee attempted to be funny by writing:
non christian from the country! get it right! ;P
And we can argue what I said all day because you'll need to prove me wrong, over what I choose to say when asked. I know pagan isn't a religion, but as I said I can't describe it. So I'll stick with just saying I'm pagan. It's easier for me, and a good deal of people I say that to gets it when I tell them "I'm pagan.""Oh, you worship many gods then?"
"Yeah, in a way, I do."
And I don't have to get technical about it, unless they really want to know. But I'm lazy, and don't like shoven it in people's faces by getting into the long winded description of what I believe in.
As for Wicca, never said I was a part of that belief system. Never even mentioned it, so donno why you brought it up.
The Wicca comment references an earlier post. While Wicca's credentials are open to debate, calling paganism a religion is just flat wrong.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Gydfather had this to say about (_|_):
St. Thomas Aquinas was a Catholic philosopher in the 1200s. A lot of his stuff is really good.
More to add to the reading list after I get through what I have.
Any particular books to look into?
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So quoth OtakuPenguin:
"The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false" To me, that means, 'Accept Science if it's proven, like evolution, so you don't make the rest of us look like Jackasses.'
And sorry Gyd, I didn't read your entire post
Uh, no part of what you quoted contradicts anything I said.
You've proven my point, essentially. That's just a long-winded way of saying, "Yeah, okay. . .but you still can't explain X."
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Cuba:
More to add to the reading list after I get through what I have.Any particular books to look into?
Look for a small summarization of his works, he's actually got a shit ton of writing in mulitple volumes. But he did a Cliff's notes version of his writing himself, the Theologica Summaria, or, the Summas. Check that out.
I'm D.
OMGS! I SEE THE LIGHT!!
I told you already, I know what pagan means. I stick with it out of conveniance because I can't really describe what I believe in. if I say Polytheistic I get alot of dumb "huh?" looks. If I say Pagan, the light switches on and the person(s) I said it to understand.
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Bloodsage had this to say about John Romero:
Uh, no part of what you quoted contradicts anything I said.You've proven my point, essentially. That's just a long-winded way of saying, "Yeah, okay. . .but you still can't explain X."
Eh
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How.... Bloodsage.... uughhhhhh:
The Wicca comment references an earlier post. While Wicca's credentials are open to debate, calling paganism a religion is just flat wrong.
Ok, cool.
And
I AGREED THAT PAGAN ISN'T A RELIGION!!
Are we clear? I hope so ;P
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about Punky Brewster:
More to add to the reading list after I get through what I have.Any particular books to look into?
Summa Theologica is a good start.
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What kind of society is this?
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So quoth Katrinity:
Omg! You forgot Option F: The Faithful of the Cookie!
...seek help.
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about the Spice Girls:
...seek help.
Called a joke.
<bites Parce>
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Mr. Parcelan attempted to be funny by writing:
...seek help.
Exactly
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
And since Parce seemed to have the info he wanted, I posit this to any and all who wish to answer: Why is E a religion? As an E, I don't feel like it's such, but I am interested in the reasoning behind the assertion that it is.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
*beans him with a can of potted meat*
That is all.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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Bloodsage's fortune cookie read:
It doesn't make sense.What religion are you?
I'm not Christian.
Given the choices
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"I am the Following Religion:"A. Catholic
B. Christian
C. Jewish
D. Agnostic (I dunno)
E. Atheist (THERE IS NO GOD)
It answers the question asked, does it not?
F. Other, please explain.
