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Drysart stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Yes but how is it different than what you're saying moderators should do now, since you're asking moderators to step in and calm personal disputes?

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I missed this before. The difference is that I'm just asking for a minor edit, or a polite request that they stop. If there's an insult in a discussion, just edit out the insult, but keep the rest, etc. Or if things are getting heated, just stepping in and saying something like "Hey guys, let's try to keep this civil, okay?" Setting an example of being polite and civil themselves, but being firm so they could regain the respect they should have as mods.

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Lyinar Ka`Bael got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
That's why I'm asking for clarification. War threads aren't the only threads in abundance lately, so I wish to know if we're going to see more separation in the future for those thread subjects that do become prevalent.

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I think threads about tech support don't rouse as much rabble

Lookit this one. Touchy subject, good discussion, no flamewar. War threads would be a breeze after this one

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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I missed this before. The difference is that I'm just asking for a minor edit, or a polite request that they stop. If there's an insult in a discussion, just edit out the insult, but keep the rest, etc. Or if things are getting heated, just stepping in and saying something like "Hey guys, let's try to keep this civil, okay?" Setting an example of being polite and civil themselves, but being firm so they could regain the respect they should have as mods.

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So what if they don't do what the mods say?

Shouldthey be banned?

Wouldn't that be exactly what you were against?

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Check out the big brain on Gikkwiny!
So what if they don't do what the mods say?

Shouldthey be banned?

Wouldn't that be exactly what you were against?

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Of course not. That's far too drastic. I believe in giving more than one chance. My belief is only ban when it's the absolute last choice and you see they aren't going to change. That's not to say everyone works that way, but I don't like to be hasty in decisions.

So if they didn't listen, then the mod might repeat things a little more firmly. Or make careful edits. If it kept continuing, although I really don't think we have anyone *that* stupid, then a more drastic measure could be taken.

Just to give an example, I have a three warnings rule in my RP and chat rooms. Troublemaker comes in, I say quit. I say quit again. I say quit a third time. I may voice everyone next and moderate the channel. If they find a way around that, I give them a temp ban and kick them.

You can't do that on a message board, of course. But that's the sort of thing I mean. A progression of punishment sort of thing.

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There was much rejoicing when Lyinar Ka`Bael said this:
Of course not. That's far too drastic. I believe in giving more than one chance. My belief is only ban when it's the absolute last choice and you see they aren't going to change. That's not to say everyone works that way, but I don't like to be hasty in decisions.

So if they didn't listen, then the mod might repeat things a little more firmly. Or make careful edits. If it kept continuing, although I really don't think we have anyone *that* stupid, then a more drastic measure could be taken.

Just to give an example, I have a three warnings rule in my RP and chat rooms. Troublemaker comes in, I say quit. I say quit again. I say quit a third time. I may voice everyone next and moderate the channel. If they find a way around that, I give them a temp ban and kick them.

You can't do that on a message board, of course. But that's the sort of thing I mean. A progression of punishment sort of thing.

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Was called, 'blacklisting.'

If someone can't hang in a heated or forceful argument without going postal, they should accept their personal limitations and either move on or work to learn self-restraint.

If someone can't help themselves but violate the rules at every turn, they should be banned, no questions asked and good riddance.

If someone is offended at the least mention that the entire universe and every living thing in it doesn't agree with them, they should wake up and smell reality before setting their browser permanently to Disney's home page.

Argument is good. Conflict is good. Follow the rules, and all will be well.

What difference does it make that war threads have been moved? There's already a forum for Anime.

So. . .I will continue to oppose any suggestion that some mod should sweep through the forums with his Barney hat on editing people's posts to be "non-offensive," whatever that's supposed to mean.

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Nobody really understood why Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote:
If there's an insult in a discussion, just edit out the insult, but keep the rest, etc.

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GESTOPO!

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Iron Parcelan obviously shouldn't have said:
Bloodsage brings with him the sulphorous odor of the flames of Acheron.

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Yeah, but in his case it's dietary.

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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Karnaj said:
Yeah, but in his case it's dietary.

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I think it's his deodorant: 'Acheron Sport'.

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nem-x had this to say about Matthew Broderick:

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Lyinar Ka`Bael Model 2000 was programmed to say:
I missed this before. The difference is that I'm just asking for a minor edit, or a polite request that they stop. If there's an insult in a discussion, just edit out the insult, but keep the rest, etc. Or if things are getting heated, just stepping in and saying something like "Hey guys, let's try to keep this civil, okay?" Setting an example of being polite and civil themselves, but being firm so they could regain the respect they should have as mods.

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I disagree completely. I can't imagine anything more annoying than having something edited out of your post because a mod thought it might be conceived as a veiled insult toward person X. Can you imagine how annoying it would be to read Bloodsage's arguments? Can you imagine how unfunny Parce's parodies would be because they would have all the little jibes at people taken out? What about when someone's acting like a moron and everyone let's that person know? "Oh no! He called him a dumbass! Let's replace that mean word with a flower!"

And you know every single one of those would be edited because there has to be a standard. Otherwise you get cries of favoritism and people saying, "You edited my post, but you didn't edit http://forums.evercrest.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=replay&f=19t, http://forums.evercrest.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=replay&f=28c, or http://forums.evercrest.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=replay&f=12312!! How dare you!"

I haven't even noticed insults as being an issue on this board. I can think of very, very few instances where people have stepped over the line without a thread being locked. Pretty much every insult is really quite humorous. I suggest you adapt and get "thicker skin," as you called it.

EDIT: How about you put in a bad word filter that edits out bad things like "hate" and "pestachio?" That way, you can keep this board a happy place!

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Taeldian obviously shouldn't have said:
Pretty much every insult is really quite humorous. I suggest you adapt and get "thicker skin," as you called it.

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And you refuse to see the point. Funny for you. Funny for the person who made the joke. Funny for the target of the joke?

But the target of the joke doesn't matter, I guess, because *you* thought it was funny, and nobody exists on this earth but you? Nobody can have something cut to the bone because if they do they're weak and they need "thicker skin"?

And I'm not even talking about myself. I don't give a damn what jibes are made at me. But were you ever the little kid, or even big kid, who got picked on, teased, ridiculed and reviled just because people could do it to you? If you were, then why would you wish that on someone else?

The difference between the example you gave and the reality of what goes on here is that they're all jokes here. People aren't going out of their way to spit on you and shun you. They're just poking fun. Everybody does it, and the people who feel victimized by it need to get over it. If someone feels bad because they can't handle Parcelan's jokes (Which generally aren't that bad anyway), they do need to get thicker skin. I can't imagine how people who can't handle Parcelan, of all people, can function in the real world.

So I'll say it again. Get thicker skin. Life will be much more enjoyable if you aren't fretting over every little thing someone says.

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So quoth Falaanla Marr:
I agree. The new parcelan is much more cuddly soft. Can we keep him?

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You must choose.

The old Parcelan was cruel and malicious, but the new Parcelan craps on your pillow.