Keep youurr threaddds Faae!

/lurkk back onn

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Piper had this to say about Cuba:
MOD ANGST!

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Well, at least now you have an appreciation for what Drysart goes through.

Oh you talked pretty tough! But now that Drys is gone and the heat is on, you ain't so tough, is ya?

IS YA?!

Don't hurt me! I have a peanut butter jelly sandwich and three bags of potato chips!

*hugs Fae* I support and adore your threads! You are the first positive DM experience I have met with to the point of sharing your thoughts.. concerns and asking input from your players. You are very involved in the game and are out to entertain folks. I know you do it for players and the boards in general and not so much for yourself. You do it for our enjoyment and I really honestly believe that the posts of the funny parts of our adventures entertain and bring alot of people a good chuckle. I know that alot of people out there have asked me whether or not you had openings and I in turn have pointed them to you.

I completely am behind you as far as posting the threads. You bring something positive to the boards.. among so many threads out there which are negative in nature or just in general start out good but take a turn for the worse. Please keep posting, Fae. I would like nothing more than to see you continue bringing joy to others. =)

I like reading the threads from the other group, too. It's interesting to see the differences and similarities between the two. And it's funny as hell.

You get my vote, partner.

Such is the way of things, really. Thus, it is the responsibility of the viewer to determine what thread they will read and which they will let lie.

EDIT: So I guess my point is that it's pointless to get upset over what threads are created as well as over what posts and votes are given to said threads.

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Kegwen 2.0 probably says this to all the girls:
I find this debate humorous.

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Fae's threads do not annoy me.

Yet do you see me going around voting all your threads a one? Hey, great, I'll do that from now on, since it's obviously cool with you.

I also do not see what RPCrest has to do with this, but I suppose that's besides the point. What exactly is this "good authority" you're mumbling about, though?

My reason for proposing a huge revision to the voting system a couple weeks back.

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Ya know...they are just numbers...Bleh. I could vote all my threads a 1, and my life wouldnt change a bit.

Fae, keep the posts goin. I like having chances to come observe

I think we've hashed out the matter of Fae's game threads. If he wants to continue them, they violate no rules, and only two people dislike them. Jolly good. We can move on now.

As for the voting down crap, as far as I've seen, malicious voting is something to take up with Drys. But since it seems everyone's done it, I'd just as soon not see everyone be given a warning ban. Just call a bloody cease fire on it.

Personally I recommend that if you don't like someone, don't read their bloody thread. And if it's something so severe that that won't cut it, just PM. I wish I'd been PMed about all this stuff before it came to this. There are two or three eeeeeeeeeasy ways to hash this stuff out without. You know, in all this mess I hear that people are PMing Lyinar about stuff, but no-one's PMed me except for Fae. I read all PM's I receive, even if I don't respond. I don't like being dragged into arguments, and I don't generally like the idea that something I say in a PM is going to be passed around (unless I'm harassing you and won't stop, or somehow otherwise terribly offend you and don't apologize via PM, then I fully expect people to go to Drys like when I offended someone recently). So if you're PMing a rant to get stuff off your chest, don't always expect me to reply (at least not immediately).

As for the RPCresters...If any "blanket statement" has been applied to any of you INDIVIDUALS unduly, I'm sorry. But everyone is judged by the company they keep. I know I have been around here, and I don't mind it. I know several of the folks who hang out in the RPCrest channel who I thought I was friends with (and until I hear otherwise will continue to assume I'm friends with). If you don't want to be treated as a group, I encourage you to act as individuals.

And finally, as for you Fae, I am sorry it came to this. Like I said...I didn't intend things to blow up like this. I wish I'd known sooner so we could've hashed this out in private rather than it becoming a matter where two sides have to lay siege to one another. How often does that solve anything around the boards? You and I don't have to agree or see eye to eye on a lot of things, and despite that we can remain civil or in the very least passively beneficent to one another. I don't begrudge you your game or your fun or having lots of players. You can pull off stuff I have a hard time with. That's cool, I'm sure I have aptitudes in some areas that you don't. I am sorry that things got to this point.

Of course now I'm rambling and I'm not nearly as good at peacemaking as Chalesm. I think we collectively agree to disagree on the matter of Fae's threads, and unless Drysart says "No more of these" about it, there's nothing horrible about them continuing. Difference of opinion. You all are entitled to your opinion, Lyinar and I are entitled to our's. Any hostility beyond that can be exorcised in other ways than a thread getting hostile.

So. Matter settled? Shall we call for this thread to be locked?

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Synjari painfully thought these words up:
I voted low on three of your threads. You complained about it obviously and a good majority of people have that privledge taken away.

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Since this has been brought up, I will respond to this and only this in this thread. I didn't complain to Drysart about my own threads. I don't care what anyone votes on my threads.

It was after Deth started getting attacked and his own threads getting voted down seconds after they appeared with low or no views that I complained to Drysart. Have what quarrel with me that any of you will, but I will let the claws come out when any of you try to bring it onto Deth's head, too.

So if any voting privileges were revoked, they were due to voting down Deth's threads. I never said a word about my own, and you can ask Tim when he gets back if you want that verified.

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Piper had this to say about Cuba:
For the love of god, can I just pretend that there isn't so ridiculous of a dispute going on as this? Please?

I think my brain is haemorrhaging.

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OHNO!! WE DAMAEG PIPER'S BRAEN!!!

Attempted funnay in an effort to douse the flamewar this is degenerating into....

And I think the argument is done now, as Piper said so please, even if you think you have something more to say about the voting, rpcrest or otherwise issue. Don't.

I'm semi-part of #rpcrest (used to be completely part of it but hey, taking a hiatus) and other than sharing our opinions with each other, which generally agree, we don't actually do anything malicious (or at least, I don't know of anything).

I'm starting to break what I said above so I better shut up, sorry

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Check out the big brain on Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael!
So. Matter settled? Shall we call for this thread to be locked?

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That scarcely seems necessary for a thread that's had it's grievance resolved and is continuing to attract positive attention.

Just ignore it from now on.

*shrugs, and walks off*

meh meh meh, I'm done with this lam0rt thread.

I hardly see how a thread getting votes on it has any bearing at all on the viewing of that thread. The only time I ever even think of votes is when someone says "Comedy gold!" in one of Parce's threads. I'd be suprised, amazed and baffled if anyone here viewed threads based on the votes.

Voting has no effect on anything, and thus no one deserves to have their right to vote revoked.

As for the DnD threads, I don't care about them. I don't read them. Lyinar, Deth, why can't you do the same? They're much higher quality than the "WC3 GO NOW!" threads, not to mention most things on the board. It's not like its Fae doing a sig or sigpic test every day or something. Its a good quality thread on a bi-weekly basis. So you don't care about the subject of the post. Big deal. Ignore them.

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Taeldian obviously shouldn't have said:
Voting has no effect on anything

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Nobody really understood why Taeldian wrote:
I'd be suprised, amazed and baffled if anyone here viewed threads based on the votes.

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Everyone except, of course, you.
EDIT: Directed at BM

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OHO joek

OK, I did vote this threa da 1, because it makes me ill that voting has actually become an issue. You rock, Fae, sorry this crap goes on.

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Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Knight Rider:
Since this has been brought up, I will respond to this and only this in this thread. I didn't complain to Drysart about my own threads. I don't care what anyone votes on my threads.

It was after Deth started getting attacked and his own threads getting voted down seconds after they appeared with low or no views that I complained to Drysart. Have what quarrel with me that any of you will, but I will let the claws come out when any of you try to bring it onto Deth's head, too.

So if any voting privileges were revoked, they were due to voting down Deth's threads. I never said a word about my own, and you can ask Tim when he gets back if you want that verified.

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Since you brought THIS up and Deth posted his final word on it.. Id like to point out that you need to read what I said. I voted a one on about three of your threads. Bear in mind that to my knowledge.. no one had a qualm with Deth.. hell I didnt even know that Deth was involved in this to this extent.. so PLEASE spare me your bullshit about protecting him from my evil votes of ones that WERENT on his thread. So as you told me once.. WHOA girl! Put those "claws" away!

Deth, I didnt involve you in anything that I did.. it was an issue (among others).. that I have with Lyinar. As I said I had no clue that you got dragged into it. I spoke only for myself and my own actions as to banning and spoke against Lyinar's reasoning for it and attitude in general. Im sorry if you felt that I was one of those who had voted one. To my knowledge I dont know of anyone voting one on your threads. My qualms arent with you.

Don't make uninformed blanket statements, thanks. RPcrest has an average of 20 visitors on evenings, and apart from the regulars, a large amount of people that occasionaly visit.

If you have 60-70 people voting 1's on your threads, then you'd have a point.

Until then, drop the bitterness.

Why are we even arguing?

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So quoth Reynar:
Anyone want to summarize that original post?

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Tihs sux peeps r mad at me for posting my D&D stuff, but r nuff peeps mad?

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Nobody really understood why Reynar wrote:
Anyone want to summarize that original post?

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Which original post?
The post where she expressed her displeasure for Fae's threads...? Or what? If you mean THIS thread, just read it, you twit,

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As for the RPCresters...If any "blanket statement" has been applied to any of you INDIVIDUALS unduly, I'm sorry. But everyone is judged by the company they keep. I know I have been around here, and I don't mind it. I know several of the folks who hang out in the RPCrest channel who I thought I was friends with (and until I hear otherwise will continue to assume I'm friends with). If you don't want to be treated as a group, I encourage you to act as individuals.

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So in other words, because one or two people who hang out in RPcrest voted 1's, that makes us a singular entity, or at the very least gives you a right to make blanket statements?

Think again.

You hang out in EC. EC's a community. EC contains the people who voted 1's on said threads.

Using that logic, I can say what Lyinar did, only replace "RPcresters" with "ECers".

Why did you vote 1 on your own thread again, Deth?

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Verily, Reynar doth proclaim:
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Venting.

Then finnaly asking for public opinion on whether my DnD threads bother people, and if they would like them to stop.

Once again, and final time, the voting issue was/is irritating, but it was just a point, and I could really care less. No one really pays attention to the image next to a thread. It was just the intent behind it that was brought up, and even that was just a point. Which on the whole doesn't bother me. The point of this thread was for public opinion on the threads themselves and seeking a concensus. Because, again, if they bother enough people, then they are counter productive to why I do them, and I should go ahead and stop them.

However public opinion seems pretty much to be in thier favor.

I have no idea how the RPCresters got dragged into this, but they have nothing to do with it. If there are other issues between them, and parties involved, which I know there is. It's a totally seperate issue from this one. Some of them happen to be my friends, as are a great many other people from just about every part of EC. I disagree with the group losing thier voting privlages, while Lyinar has not lost hers for doing the exact same thing for the exact same reasons. Fair is fair, but that is something that I will take up with Drysart when he gets back, and should really be dropped. As the moderators cannot do anything about it, as far as I know, it is an issue that only Drysart can resolve. Blanketing a group based on unknowns is really.. not - a - good - idea...

Also I don't know how Deth got dragged in either, I have not, nor do I ever see myself having qualms with Deth. He is still, and will probably remain a very close friend of mine. I also don't recall anyone ever having a beef with Deth either, so that to me also appears moot.

The direction of this thread was spurred by me, and although I do not regret it, the point of the thread was lost. The known reputation here, harbors many bad feelings, of which quite a few are justified, and rightly earned. Which of course was brought into the open.

I don't care if Fae makes threads about his games. Hell, I've even said I'd like to possibly be in one or at least watch for a session.

My two cents.

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Lashanna obviously shouldn't have said:

Which original post?
The post where she expressed her displeasure for Fae's threads...? Or what? If you mean THIS thread, just read it, you twit,

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What do you think 'original post' means? Obviously the first one...

I was gonna read it, but it was far too bloated. And it got summarized for me, but thanks for your input.

As for my opinion on this (since it was asked for, kinda), I dont see anything wrong with Faes threads.

And Fae: if you like them, keep them going. You can't please all of the people all of the time. I just wouldn't worry about it.

If it was against board rules then those threads would get locked or deleted. They haven't been so it's fair game.

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If a group wants to get together and vote a certain way, there's little I can do to police that, even if I had the desire to...

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So if voting rights were taken away, then it's not from that situation. So nobody can really bemoan the fact I still have mine since Tim, as far as I know, didn't take any away. At least not for this.

I recall that Drysart said something in KaL's thread that it could be a bug of a boards. It's possible it's just that.

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Lyinar Ka`Bael wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I complained when Deth was being brought into it. I never said Drysart did anything about it. In fact, this is part of the reply I received from him.

So if voting rights were taken away, then it's not from that situation. So nobody can really bemoan the fact I still have mine since Tim, as far as I know, didn't take any away. At least not for this.

I recall that Drysart said something in KaL's thread that it could be a bug of a boards. It's possible it's just that.

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I admit to not have read 85% of the posts on this thread but Im just curious as to why the votes matter at all to people? AFAIK votes have no effect on anything, just the little icon changes.

This is not a flame or anything, this is an honest question.

People get pissed off at me, for whatever reason. A lot of shit goes down, they vote my threads low, send me hate PMs, whatever.

Immediately after that Deth posts a couple of threads, and immediately after they're posted, they're crapped. Doesn't matter what he says, all his recent threads get crapped.

That I mind. The argument is with me. I don't know who's bringing Deth into it, but I won't stand for that sort of thing. Deth isn't the one whoever it is is pissed off at, so he shouldn't be dragged in the middle.

So really, I don't give a flying fuck about the rating. I give a damn about the matter of striking at my boyfriend, who hasn't done anything to piss anyone off, when someone is mad at me.

And that would have to be a very conveniently timed "Bug of the Boards."

As I'm sure you remember, the one time I expressed a polite opinion on it, I was flamed out the ass for it. Forgive me if I choose to express my opinion in an alternate way.