They've killed Emp and of memory serves, they did it with basically 1 cleric per group (and 1 or 2 more for the rez pool). This is standard for them. No need to haul in 93487394857435 Clerics if you're good and if you abuse the talents of every class you have. 
70 / 6 + 1 = 13
13 clerics is still a good amount.
(You'd probably have more still for the MT.) [ 06-14-2002: Message edited by: The Black Mage... ]
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We normally have 5-6 clerics and 10 billion druids. And somehow.. people still die. I think the druids get mezzed by the leaves from their epic.
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No, they're too busy raking the damned things up and putting them in those little bags they're leaving everywhere
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We don't rake up our own leaves, silly. We have people specifically hired to be our Rakes in the guild. [ 06-14-2002: Message edited by: Katjya ] snicker
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The Black Mage... stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Well, maybe it's changed since they removed the DT, but it used to be a CRAZY ass amount.
I think that 70 for him is overkill in any form. Anyone can throw numbers and overcome...
It takes roughly 30 seconds to gate, invite someone, and get CotHed back.
It does not really matter what class does it as long as they can gate
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I think that 70 for him is overkill in any form. Anyone can throw numbers and overcome...
ED killed emp v2.0 with 58 people. And yes a good raid force will have around 13 clerics. Minor raids like the avatar of war (yes, the AoW is a minor raid compared to SoL encounters) can be done with 6-7 clerics pretty easy.
However these high level rampaging mobs like the arch lich requires a lot of healing power.
Without being debuffed he can rampage once per second, this leave a 5-6 cleric CH rotation on the MT, 2 clerics per AT, 1 cleric tossing random heals, and 1 doing nothing but rezzing folks who eat rampage on accident.
The high priest takes even more healing, as he rampages / stuns / has 12 mobs in his room respawn during the fight.
If you've seen club fu, follow them to ssrae and see how many clerics they bring. I'll bet pretty much anything they took around 13 clerics to the emporer.
Edit: spelling [ 06-14-2002: Message edited by: Reynar ]
Blood is about a 10 minute kill, Emperor takes about an hour....
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Cetona had this to say about Robocop:
Well going back to what I said...It takes roughly 30 seconds to gate, invite someone, and get CotHed back.
It does not really matter what class does it as long as they can gate
It's also additional waste of CoTH mana and a pearl. ( 
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No real reason NOT to use a druid.
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RPC had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Actually, having talked with my roommate (member of) they did use 13, but that was tied up with the heal chain and having "hot swappable" clerics for the chain (the chain itself wasn't that large).Blood is about a 10 minute kill, Emperor takes about an hour....
Blood sounds about right, an hour for the emporer though? I know FoH did him in 25 minutes last kill, however they had 12 wizards there.
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How.... Reynar.... uughhhhhh:
Blood sounds about right, an hour for the emporer though? I know FoH did him in 25 minutes last kill, however they had 12 wizards there.
They killed him with melees! 
If memory serves, (1) FoH hasn't killed Emp 2.0, only 1.0, (2) FoH takes more people than is really necessary, (3) FoH is known to BLATANTLY LIE about encounters to the public (an hour and 120 people to kill Vulak?)
I'm probally wrong on #1, but 2 and 3 are spot on.
Emp 2.0 for FoH was 30 minutes. [ 06-14-2002: Message edited by: Pesco ]
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This one time, at RPC camp:
Depends on the number of times your willing to mid-battle rez people.If memory serves, (1) FoH hasn't killed Emp 2.0, only 1.0, (2) FoH takes more people than is really necessary, (3) FoH is known to BLATANTLY LIE about encounters to the public (an hour and 120 people to kill Vulak?)
I'm probally wrong on #1, but 2 and 3 are spot on.
I just find it hard to believe that any encounter takes one hour to complete. Even mobs with incredible mitigation and the emporers 90% slow...unless you have 0 casters...then maybe an hour.
Unless they just don't list killing the new form because "it's gay"...
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RPC thought about the meaning of life:
From the timing listed on their website, they killed Emp 1.0. They killed Emp after killing Seru and that was before the 'upgrade' went in on Emperor.Unless they just don't list killing the new form because "it's gay"...
It is gay. Most assinine encounter I've ever seen =)
After we kill him twice I hope to hell I never ever have to see him again.
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RPC wrote this stupid crap:
From the timing listed on their website, they killed Emp 1.0. They killed Emp after killing Seru and that was before the 'upgrade' went in on Emperor.Unless they just don't list killing the new form because "it's gay"...
Look at the 6-6 update
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Reynar spewed forth this undeniable truth:
I just find it hard to believe that any encounter takes one hour to complete. Even mobs with incredible mitigation and the emporers 90% slow...unless you have 0 casters...then maybe an hour.
It's about an hour start to finish..... the actual Emp fight itself might not be an hour, but I know from the time that Blood is actually 'engaged' till the time you're splitting look on Emp is about 1 hour 20 minutes or so....
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RPC thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
It's about an hour start to finish..... the actual Emp fight itself might not be an hour, but I know from the time that Blood is actually 'engaged' till the time you're splitting look on Emp is about 1 hour 20 minutes or so....
Gotcha, that seems to be about right.
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Pesco thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Look at the 6-6 update
Check the Club Fu site. 6-6 was the death, but it happened at about 2am where the posting for FoH seems to be at about 10pm indicating that it was later in the day that they killed Emp 2.0.
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The Black Mage...'s unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
FoH claims that they take alot LESS than average amount of people, not MORE.
Every time I see them "first kill" something, it's always overkill. AFTER they rape it 2 or 3 times, then they start going in with less.
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RPC attempted to be funny by writing:
Every time I see them "first kill" something, it's always overkill. AFTER they rape it 2 or 3 times, then they start going in with less.
It's hard to know how many people to use the first time.
Triton took 68 people to kill emporer before anyone else. And now he can be done with mid-50s.
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Reynar's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
It's hard to know how many people to use the first time.Triton took 68 people to kill emporer before anyone else. And now he can be done with mid-50s.
I'll still cite the 120 people to kill Vulak. Then it was 100. Then 90.
Other guilds started popping up doing it at high 30's into 40's. FoH was still claiming 50's and 60's.
Vulak`Aerr is by no means the hardest dragon in NToV.
(Old one, right?)
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Verily, RPC doth proclaim:
I'll still cite the 120 people to kill Vulak. Then it was 100. Then 90.Other guilds started popping up doing it at high 30's into 40's. FoH was still claiming 50's and 60's.
For the first emporer kill there's not a doubt in my mind that triton took 68 with them. DT mobs are absolutely nothing but zerg attacks; because no matter how good your clerics and tanks are, they are still dead.
All you could do was zerg v1.0
They claimed that it took them and a good number of people from another guild to down him. The estimation on people needed (and they fought him in his lair like idiots) was ~120.
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Reynar's fortune cookie read:
For the first emporer kill there's not a doubt in my mind that triton took 68 with them. DT mobs are absolutely nothing but zerg attacks; because no matter how good your clerics and tanks are, they are still dead.All you could do was zerg v1.0
Yeah... DT mobs are nothing but zerg attacks. It's a question of how fast you can get someone back up and running after being bitchslapped down.
What did Legacy of Steel say about the AoW?
Guilds usually make dumb assumptions about new encounters.
And almost every mob with DT is zergfest 
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The Black Mage... had this to say about Punky Brewster:
That's what EVERYONE says about those types of encounters. What did they originally say for Trakanon? (Who can be done with 12 people now, even.)What did Legacy of Steel say about the AoW?
Guilds usually make dumb assumptions about new encounters.
And almost every mob with DT is zergfest
Hehe...AoW is done with 40 people now. How far folks have come...
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Reynar had this to say about Pirotess:
Hehe...AoW is done with 40 people now. How far folks have come...
Remember when Nagafen and Vox used to be uber?
quote:Full fine steel(Edit: Or was that mithral?) was the shit and monks were the best damage dealers, hands down, back in those days.
Super Kagrama had this to say about Cuba:
Remember when Nagafen and Vox used to be uber?
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The Black Mage... wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
That's what EVERYONE says about those types of encounters. What did they originally say for Trakanon? (Who can be done with 12 people now, even.)What did Legacy of Steel say about the AoW?
Guilds usually make dumb assumptions about new encounters.
And almost every mob with DT is zergfest
Actually, Club Fu walked in with roughly 45 to their first killing of Vulak. This was when FoH was still claiming 90. Pure accident. They wanted to test what the wanker was capable of and wound up beating him like a wet bitch.
And are you talking about the first legit kill of AoW or are you talking about the "We're going to use Charmed Giants to kill him because they're better tanks" method? (Perfectly valid IMHO... VI was stupid on that.)
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The Black Mage...'s account was hax0red to write:
Full fine steel(Edit: Or was that mithral?) was the shit and monks were the best damage dealers, hands down, back in those days.
It would have been Mith. Mith BP, Mith Arms and Mith Legs.
FS armor didn't happen till well after the uberness wore off thoes 2
quote:Full fine steel(Edit: Or was that mithral?) was the shit and monks were the best damage dealers, hands down, back in those days.[/QB][/QUOTE]
The Black Mage... wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
[QUOTE]Super Kagrama had this to say about Cuba:
[qb]Remember when Nagafen and Vox used to be uber?
Yep, Mithril from the firegiants in SolB. Mithril 2 hander from solb...Yaks from Lguk.
Hell bronze was still good
then =)
