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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 06-05-2002 04:23:18 PM
There's a known bug in the focus items that keeps the level limits from working most of the time.

Right now, focus is focus as far as I can tell.

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Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 06-05-2002 04:25:23 PM
They're also trying to write code so that spell casting haste can apply to superlong spells like item procs, but keep certain spells exempt (Complete heal for 8.5 secs anyone? ) as well.

It'll be interesting.

Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 06-05-2002 04:26:54 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:

Turn off texture caching.

Skaw
posted 06-05-2002 04:30:13 PM
Well, we know where Delphi goes to solo. Crushbone!
Mightion Defensor
posted 06-05-2002 04:47:13 PM
quote:
Skaw stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Well, we know where Delphi goes to solo. Crushbone!

Easy now. Crushbone is stress relief.

There have been plenty of times I've been frustrated with some aspect of EQ, and just gone into Crushbone and slaughtered every orc I came across, and helped out the newbies where appropriate. (I leave belts/pads on the corpses)

Like I said; stress relief. And a little worship from the newbies helps too.

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-05-2002 04:50:43 PM
They really overdid it with these new focus items IMHO.
"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 06-05-2002 04:56:02 PM
quote:
Reynar impressed everyone with:
They really overdid it with these new focus items IMHO.

"Hey guys, I'm going to cast Blessing of Aegolism on your party, it won't cost me any peridots or nothing, don't mind?"

Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 06-05-2002 05:00:50 PM
Most of the High Level Guys seem to share this opinion. I like focus items, they are a great idea, but I fear he may be right.

quote:
Most inane and thoughtless thing Verant could have done was what they did today.

Litter the playerscape with hundreds of High End Focus items on junk gear so that every peon spellslinger out there can be 30-150% more effective.

Did spellcasting classes across the board need this kind of power increase? Was it necessary to put the Level 3 foci powers on every piece of shit from Guk to Velks? What do you do for an encore? Do you then give your high end playerbase Level 4 and 5 foci that demolish the last remaining semblances of balance in the gameworld?

You think you can up the hit points of mobs by 100k, 200k, 300k, and make up for what you've done? I have some bad news for you, as usual your complete and total lack of testing and insight into this game will result in having to patch and repatch every fucking encounter and item in this game 10 times over. Congratulations on throwing darts at a massive list of loot and coming up with these guaranteed winners.

If you are too busy to make real changes to the Shadows of Luclin, try being honest with your playerbase and saying so from the start. Don't put together some slop job that you did over a sleepless weekend and call that caster balancing. Especially not after an entire month of ZERO patches and updates. It's an insult to my intelligence and the intelligence of others like me.

In short, you have annhilated the high end game and you don't even know it yet.... Next time, do some research on trickle-down theory. You don't check a man's tonsils by shoving a prong up his ass.


Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 06-05-2002 05:02:27 PM
oh yeha gimmie more shit cause im 60

fuck the little guys

they WANT peopel to get int othe high lvl game as fast as poissible :P and by george its helping

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 06-05-2002 05:05:36 PM
quote:
Iron Chef Cadga wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
oh yeha gimmie more shit cause im 60

fuck the little guys

they WANT peopel to get int othe high lvl game as fast as poissible :P and by george its helping


Remember that the high game feeds the low game economy. Guess what... That is one of the many things that just got completely fucked hard.

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 06-05-2002 05:06:32 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Pesco wrote:
Remember that the high game feeds the low game economy. Guess what... That is one of the many things that just got completely fucked hard.

*shrugs*
it woulda happened eventually

[edit mother grabbing typos]

[ 06-05-2002: Message edited by: Iron Chef Cadga ]

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 06-05-2002 05:09:11 PM
quote:
How.... Iron Chef Cadga.... uughhhhhh:
*shrugs*
it woulda happened eventually

[edit mother grabbing typos]


Didnt happen with melee items. All the Melee enhancements have been locked to 50+... some are locked at level 60, like "Vengence".

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 06-05-2002 05:12:30 PM
quote:
Pesco had this to say about Pirotess:
Didnt happen with melee items. All the Melee enhancements have been locked to 50+... some are locked at level 60, like "Vengence".

werd is y0

oh well its there way of making people happy. im happy. I dont care i play for fun anyway

as i said before once the game stops being fun and becomes work, i quit :P

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Mightion Defensor
posted 06-05-2002 05:18:05 PM
Whoa... my cougar claw earrings have Extended Range III on them? Sweeeeet....
Comrade Snoota
Communist
Da, Tovarisch!
posted 06-05-2002 05:19:36 PM
My supple scale armband has Extended Range III on it now.

I newk the hell out of everything that moves now, from as far back from the group as possible.

MY SPECIALIZATION IN EVOCATION HAS FINALLY PAID OFF!!~!!$!!! SCREW HEALING!

You smell that? Do you smell that? ...Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory.
Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 06-05-2002 05:24:15 PM
quote:
Lady Snoota Model 2000 was programmed to say:
My supple scale armband has Extended Range III on it now.

I newk the hell out of everything that moves now, from as far back from the group as possible.

MY SPECIALIZATION IN EVOCATION HAS FINALLY PAID OFF!!~!!$!!! SCREW HEALING!


Give me an Improved Healing III Item.. I'll do the healing!!! OHO~

Taylen
Pancake
posted 06-05-2002 05:33:00 PM
It's definatly made some prices jump. Can't remember how much shadel bandit ring went for before, but I swear it was nowhere near the 5kpp someone wanted for one today.

Seeing as how I can't afford any of the focus items that I would find useful it will be interesting to watch the prices go up and then come back down some or not depending on how useful people find the focus effects.

"When correctly viewed, everything is lewd." - Tom Lehrer.
Sadomasochism: It's Fun!
Taylen Ashenbow
Rangers never run we mearly stratigically retreat.
Thats not a train thats a pull, my trains are always much bigger.
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 06-05-2002 05:37:07 PM
Check out CasterRelm for a better idea of what these things do.

Effect Level III isn't going to do anything more than Effect Level I for a low level character. The only difference Effect Level makes is what levels of spells it can work with. If you can't cast spells that high, then it doesn't really matter.

Also, all the various versions of these effects are for the same amount of effect. I expect that the high end focus items (when they come out), will be level restricted (like the mage summoned ones), and have more powerful bonuses on them. That way, even if you have a toy that gives you a spell damage bonus of x%, you'll still drool over that rare toy from Skyshrine that gives a x+5% bonus.

At first glance (but I admit I may be wrong), the mid to high end Mage summoned Focus items look more powerful than these new ones. If those didn't trash the game, how will weaker ones do it?

[edit: spelling]

[ 06-05-2002: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-05-2002 05:57:25 PM
Server coming down again soon.

I can only hope they revert this patch, biggest mistake ever putting such major effects on such minor items. It will totally destroy a huge chunk of the game.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 06-05-2002 06:05:18 PM
Hmmm... I want a haste focus item for my paladin, but that will either mean

A) Camping Djarn at level 16 for an item rarer than the Efreeti boots
B) Going to Lguk and camping some frog there and wearing a tunic with very little ac


Hmmm... heh

Crud

Mightion Defensor
posted 06-05-2002 06:06:23 PM
Hmmm... I wonder if the effects stack with each other... like I said, I wear two cougar claw earrings....

Wouldn't mind being able to heal someone at the Oasis docks while selling at the gypsy camps.

Humor disclaimer.

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 06-05-2002 06:07:42 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Mightion Defensor wrote:
Hmmm... I wonder if the effects stack with each other... like I said, I wear two cougar claw earrings....

Wouldn't mind being able to heal someone at the Oasis docks while selling at the gypsy camps.

Humor disclaimer.



from what I SAW and tested it works only on offensive spells

could be wrong

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Mod
Pancake
posted 06-05-2002 06:23:28 PM
They needed to do something about caster loot, but this is madness. The effects as they stand are ok, but FFS put them onto the same Mobs that drop Vengance gear, not the f****** Great Oowomp.

[ 06-05-2002: Message edited by: Modrakien ]

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Taylen
Pancake
posted 06-05-2002 06:37:16 PM
Isn't the effect on the great oowomp drop a level 1 focus, meaning it only works on spells to level 20?
"When correctly viewed, everything is lewd." - Tom Lehrer.
Sadomasochism: It's Fun!
Taylen Ashenbow
Rangers never run we mearly stratigically retreat.
Thats not a train thats a pull, my trains are always much bigger.
Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 06-05-2002 06:37:27 PM
quote:
Skaw said this about your mom:
Well, we know where Delphi goes to solo. Crushbone!

I was there trying to get a Dragoon Dirk for my Wizzy.

Also, the hybrid haste you mentioned is fuxxed. Dismiss undead and ToK both have their regular casting time, then "Your casting time: 0.0". I couldnt believe it myself, so I ran out and shure enough, 3 sec casting time (Down from 3.3) on Dismiss.

Meh.

Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
Mod
Pancake
posted 06-05-2002 06:53:14 PM
quote:
Taylen was listening to Cher while typing:
Isn't the effect on the great oowomp drop a level 1 focus, meaning it only works on spells to level 20?

I was exgergating a bit, still, even the level 3 Foci can be aquired by one group or even soloers (CC earrings).

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Radience
Pancake
posted 06-05-2002 07:13:33 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Mightion Defensor was all like:
Check this thread: http://pub126.ezboard.com/feqtraderscornersmithing.showMessage?topicID=5817.topic

Platinum Ornate chain legs and boots were trivial below 175.

Looks like Acrylia armor will require hunting down an enchanter, for one temper component is a vial of clear mana.

Still not happy here...


Yah I just read it.. all the combines require enchanters to go beyond 200. Yay another tradeskill for them to master, i'm now underwhelmed.

Ferret
Poing! Poing!
posted 06-05-2002 07:14:43 PM
Damn it. I was hoping on actually making some of the Heraldic armor one of these days too.
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 06-05-2002 07:15:50 PM
Just d/led the patch for the patch. Focus effects weren't mentioned anywhere in the text... but Sentow is now stuck in Erudin. The gawdamn skiff doesn't work, and they can't fix it

Thank god for Agilimente's Aria of Eagles.
Is it bad that I remember by name every song that Sentow ever had in his spellbook...?

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
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