All pop music, whether it's from a boy band or bleached sex-kitten, is about the same subjects, sung in exactly the same way. Rock has devolved into a sea of acts who can't play anything but simple chords, and rely entirely on their obligatory DJ to create any kind of melody. They, too, sing about the same topics, with no real variation.
Now, I'm not blaming the recording industry itself, and I'm not bashing the aforementioned types of music, just the fact that almost every freakin band is the same. There are exceptions, of course; good, new bands come around every day - they just don't get radio play.
So, my question is: what needs to happen to bring real talent and dynamism back to music. Or, has anyone seen anything on the horizon that might be the revitalizing force we need? Remember, artists ranging from Led Zeppelin to James Brown to Cat Stevens used to be featured on the same radio stations. I think we need to bring that kind of thinking back.
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ACES! Another post by Bloodcookie:
just the fact that almost every freakin band is the same. There are exceptions, of course; good, new bands come around every day - they just don't get radio play.So, my question is: what needs to happen to bring real talent and dynamism back to music. Or, has anyone seen anything on the horizon that might be the revitalizing force we need? Remember, artists ranging from Led Zeppelin to James Brown to Cat Stevens used to be featured on the same radio stations. I think we need to bring that kind of thinking back.
this gave me the best Idea ever (that and lack of sleep plus 50+ slimjims and pixi stixs) we, the Ec members,should. ...................wait for it...... ............
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A techno Death metal band (name to be made later)
oh and I blame the mindless youth plus the un creativity of current music for the stop of new music. [ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: McRo ]
(I hate the {most of}youth so its my biased opinion... but are all opinions biased you ask this is an after thought don't think too much about it.)
Thx, la~
Then, it became a business.
Now it's an industry.
I swear, it's the best I've ever heard them do, and sounds even better live.
Jack and Ron...KissFM's "cynical, sarcastic sacks of sour cheese in the morning"...
*heart*
But really, there has been some stuff, you just have to look for it.
Richie Samboura rocks
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UBB owned me
Jesus, when you Generalize a statement. Be sure to keep in mind that there's always an exception somewhere out there. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not going to be jumping up and down professing my love for the pop muzik (or Shit as I call it).
But you don't hear me screachin on and on about it. I do one of a few things. Change the fucking radio station to the "good" rock station, OR, I supply my own music in my cd player.
I mean, come on, it's fucking common sense. Get an idea of what YOU like in music, download some MP3s, and burn them to a cd and listen to that. Or find a decent radio station. (personally, I listen to Edge102 http://www.edge102.com/ )
So take the alternative, or take a nice cool glass of SHUT THE FUCK UP
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Bloodcookie had this to say about Duck Tales:
What, in the name of Robert Plant's sideburns, has happened to music? By my calculations, there has not been an original idea, or even any signs of evolution, in the music industry in the past 3 or 4 years.All pop music, whether it's from a boy band or bleached sex-kitten, is about the same subjects, sung in exactly the same way. Rock has devolved into a sea of acts who can't play anything but simple chords, and rely entirely on their obligatory DJ to create any kind of melody. They, too, sing about the same topics, with no real variation.
Now, I'm not blaming the recording industry itself, and I'm not bashing the aforementioned types of music, just the fact that almost every freakin band is the same. There are exceptions, of course; good, new bands come around every day - they just don't get radio play.
So, my question is: what needs to happen to bring real talent and dynamism back to music. Or, has anyone seen anything on the horizon that might be the revitalizing force we need? Remember, artists ranging from Led Zeppelin to James Brown to Cat Stevens used to be featured on the same radio stations. I think we need to bring that kind of thinking back.
You're delving too far into mainstream music, the music of "them" we are not of them, we are counterculture, if you want originality try these bands in this order:
Dream Theater (absolute polished musicianship, if a band were to ever approach perfection in their skill, this is that band)
Yngwie Malmsteen (if you were to supercede perfection on the guitar, you have this man, although he's swedish, he's still a phenominal guitarist)
Blind Guardian (Fantasy, Metal, lead singer with a range an voice unbeleviable, I think so far, only Hansi Kursch could approach Freddie Mercury as a lead singer)
Iced Earth {Metal with a darker turn but none of that screaming an shouting instead of singing crap, the albums are all so excellently written, who else does a 17 min long song based on renaissance conceptions of christianity (Dante's Divine Comedy)]
Tenacious D (Raunchy but witty comedy done with suprising skill and damn, Jack Black can sing like a mofugger, I kinna wish he'd do serious rock just to hear it)
go now, explore and expand yourself, you have your originality in music. you just have to dig deeper than the corperate surface
Video games are the unification of all culture, all art, all innovation. Every advancement of the computer age is found in thier programming, every cultural influence and form of art is expressed in thier plots and ambiences and environments.
They are an amalgum of the greatest we are capable of in either art or science.
Video games are exemplary of all humanity's achievements as a race to date.
except, of course, the ones Nintendo makes [ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Maradön? ]
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Siliddar had this to say about John Romero:
Manson != Music.
(Thats manson in sigpic right?)
No, that's Buckethead.
n00b.
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Comrade_Snoota had this to say about Duck Tales:
I like Everlast's newer stuff. It's moderately original. Before he started doing it, I'd never heard someone playing blues rifts on a six string while rapping.
See sig. 
-Tok [ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Toktuk ]
Taint. Sheesh. I've a sick mind. 
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Archers Roxxors!
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Archers Roxxors!
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I haven't read much of Milton. Read Dantes Inferno though and liked it. Tried reading Dante's Paradisio but couldn't really.
I suppose that Milton would have a much more violent picture of hell than Dante since Puritans seemed to focus on fire and brimstone more that Mercy and forgiveness, at least that is what I heard.
Catholics on the other hand, don't as much.
Archers Roxxors!
Lyrics are a key part to music.
k thx la~
He fights what he considers oppression, refuses to give up in adversity, and finally decides to make the best of what he has.
Not that Milton intended it that way, mind you. He was shooting for "implacable evil" rather than "tenaciously principled."
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Like Nightwish. And Blind Guardian.
Not a single of my IRL friends had ever heard of either of them before I made them listen. They say it isn't bad, but I know they're just saying that so I'll leave them the hell alone.
Thank jeebus Cadga never let me listen to that pop crap when I was little. I used to sit in his room and watch him on the computer while he blasted metal.
Yeah.
Full sigpic image.
Liam - "Caitlin: You terrify me, but in a good way."
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Check out the big brain on Bloodsage!
Oddly enough, Satan comes across as a very sympathetic character in Paradise Lost. By our standards, anyway.
He fights what he considers oppression, refuses to give up in adversity, and finally decides to make the best of what he has.Not that Milton intended it that way, mind you. He was shooting for "implacable evil" rather than "tenaciously principled."
That would make some sense, as Satan was an Angel, and the highest, and even when turned to evil the Good that God would have placed inside of him would not have faded so quickly, or easily.
Satan most certainly does not appear as Tenaciously principled in the story, but there might also be more to it than that. What if Satan was only pretending to appear noble and such to coerce the others who fell with him? That would make sense to, I think. Although whether that is what Milton intended I do not know.
What do I think happened? I think that Satan fell, and slowly turned more and more evil as he fed on his own hate. Fits also with Tolkiens Opening in the Silmarillion. Even though Tolkien didn't want it to be thought as a religious book, an opening like that makes it a little hard not to think of it as such, considering the fact that Tolkien was a Christian.
Archers Roxxors!
You really should read Milton; it's quite a good story, and well written.
That's wher my .sig comes from.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Kinanik obviously shouldn't have said:
Lyrics are a key part to music.k thx la~
I know of about 80,000 techno artists among hundreds of instrumental artists in countless other musical generes who would argue that you're completely wrong.
Mozart, Hyden, Mendelsshon, and a great many other of the greatest musical composers of all time didn't put too much stock in lyrics
Better to Serve out of Love in Heaven,
Then to Serve out of Fear in Hell.
What do you think?
Archers Roxxors!
I don't care where it's better to serve, because I'm not content with that lot in life.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Archers Roxxors!
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No one really understood why Arttemis wrote this stupid crap
Pssh. Why do I have to serve at all in hell? I mean, what the flip is big bad Satan going to do to me? Kill me?
No, but you would probably end up wishing that he could kill your soul, if that is were you end up anyway.
Archers Roxxors!
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Maradön? had this to say about dark elf butts:
I know of about 80,000 techno artists among hundreds of instrumental artists in countless other musical generes who would argue that you're completely wrong.Mozart, Hyden, Mendelsshon, and a great many other of the greatest musical composers of all time didn't put too much stock in lyrics
You are totally discounting the voice, that was the first instrument, maybe before the drum, who knows when the first whistle or humming happened. And these men who you mention also wrote opera, which had songs, composed of lyrics.
Stuff like N'Sync, Britney Spears and Linkin Park (to me, they are just another boy band, just one that does a kind of music I should like. I hate being a stereotype ) IS NOT EVERYTHING. Just find soemthing you enjoy and listen away.
*flicks Circle of Dust back on and settles back*
P.S. Edge 102's morning show sucks horribly. EDIT: I hate typos. [ 04-17-2002: Message edited by: Solstyce ]
