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Steven Steve
posted 04-10-2002 11:19:20 PM
Okay, I'll try to say what I'm trying to say in a simple fashion.

Obviously, my career at Evercrest has not been a happy, joyous one. In the beginning, I was just an asshole, and now I'm paying for it. I go by many names, such as "Spaz," "KUNG FOO," and "Fucktard." I'm well known as the heartless dumbass who always talks about martial arts. I could delve deeper into my anger and tell you how ironical you people act, but I'm putting that on hold as that's not the ultimate situation at hand here. Back to the former subject, here's how my day goes.

Fazumzen: <Insert opinion or remark.>
Random_person_76: Oh my god! It's Fazumzen! Go back to doing Kung Fu you autistic piece of crap!
*silence*

Fazumzen: <Says something about martial arts.>
Random_uptight_ironical_piece_of_crap_01: Yeah right, I bet you suck at martial arts.
Fazumzen: No, I'm pretty sure I don't suck.
Random_uptight_ironical_piece_of_crap_01: According to my smartyman college education and the fact that you are 13 years old, I am right and you are wrong. You can't break a tissue using martial arts and I know this for a fact because Pi x 3y = 4/13xp = I am a dork with no life. Get out of here, spaz.
Fazumzen: <Says something melodramatic, and leaves.>

I was thinking about going into that "I'm a person, too," crap, but no one cares about that, because you hate me anyway. However, I will ask you this. What would you do if you had to wake up every morning to get punched in the nuts by a group of people, one by one? You'd be pissed, or if you're a wuss, you'd accept it. You see, I'm pissed.

I see a community or a family of friends in Evercrest, and that's why I come here just about every day. It gives me something to do. Truly nothing comes without a price. Not naming any names, I'm tired of people's smartassness towards me, and pretending that my opinion or interest don't mean jack shit because I'm a young teenager. If Evercrest were a family, I'd be the abused child.

It's been like this, ever since the very beginning. It must be my fault, because everyone else seems to get along with each other just fine. Except for... a few. What's funny is that all of your hatred came from me saying Rune was an excellent game. (That was back when Yam was still around.) I mean, what the fuck? Some of you even joined after that period and still hated me. What's with that?

Because of this, I feel more and more excluded from the Evercrest community by day. I've been here since, what, November 2000? I can't honestly say that it's passed quickly. The first time I saw that, I was confused. Despite my time on the boards, not one person has ever pretended to be my friend. Unless, that is, you call a friend someone who takes me being correct in an argument as an insult.

Fast forward to now. I was just in IRC, and I was just doing the normal talk thing. I said that I was testing for my black belt in Tae Kwon Do soon, and right off the bat people tried to put on the hurt. Once again, leaving people anonymous, basically they sarcastically spoke of me godmoding real life. So I was just playing along, you know. Then the adults came in with their "I think the collective intelligence of the room has dropped," bit, because, you know, obviously you're smart if you think you are. So they got bored and started talking about ergonomics or national defense programs or whatever the hell they talk about when I'm not around, when I'm told to go away. I ask, for how long? He says, until I die. So he explains, and it seems from the context of his message that these facts hold true, if he is correct:

1.) He sure as fuck hates me
2.) Everyone here sure as fuck hates me
3.) I sure as fuck get on everyone's nerves
4.) I should leave not only IRC, but the board, too. Forever.

This comes as no big surprise to me. I was kind of subconsciously expecting this for a long time.

So I'll say this. I'm a big asshole, and to me, you're no better. I would offer a truce, but I don't really give a steaming shit anymore. It doesn't seem like any of you like me, and it sure seems like more of you hate me than stand neutral. So I ask you this, seriously. How many of you would like to see me gone? I'm sick and tired of putting up with this bullshit, and obviously you're tired of mine. I guess things will never change because you people are too busy misunderstanding (I know, Maradon-speak.) to make things happen. This leaves me with two options:

1.) Stay here and take your bullshit so I can maybe pass some time
2.) Leave this hell hole and never have to see any of you again

Well, I'm even angrier now than I was at the start of this message, now that I reflect on the situation. It's really too bad. Maybe if you gave me a chance in the beginning, I wouldn't be such a pissant fuck.

This isn't a goodbye message. Yet. I still need your input, remember? So what will it be?

Speaking with all honesty, do you want me gone from here forever?

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 04-10-2002 11:21:34 PM
I agree, people should stop making fun of you.

As I've said before, EC always needs someone to pick on, and it should stop.

Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 04-10-2002 11:24:59 PM
Stop deserving it and we'll stop giving it to you.

Seriously, it's not our job to cater to you. If a lot of people are hating you, you're probably giving them a reason to do such.

I don't want to see you go. I want to see you shape up and become an upright citizen of EverCrest.

In other words...

-I want to see you judge a game by something other than its inclusion/lack of martial arts.

-I want to see you stop gloating about your martial arts.

-I want to see you stop talking about martial arts for a good while.

-I want to see you stop acting like an acne-ridden, pasty 13 year-old jackass.

-I want to see you act a tad more mature...when it comes to serious matters. Feel free to doink around if its in the name of comedy.

That pretty much sums up what would make me hate you less.

Steven Steve
posted 04-10-2002 11:25:45 PM
how ironic
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-10-2002 11:26:23 PM
You always manage to annoy the hell out of someone Faz. It never fails. Either comments about how game X sucks because it's martial arts class isn't as l33t as you are or how l33t you are or just being a dork.

Personally, I care fuck-all if you stay or leave. Just stop being annoying.

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 04-10-2002 11:26:53 PM
Go ahead. Try to act clever.

Next time you come to us whining about how everyone hates you because you're a moronic jackass, remind me to laugh.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-10-2002 11:27:50 PM
Hey Parc, it's time to laugh.
* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 04-10-2002 11:29:52 PM
Hey, if you don't like his comments, don't read them. (What everyone does to me )

It's not his job to cater to you, is it?

Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Suddar Williams
SUDAR WILAMS
posted 04-10-2002 11:30:02 PM
Look, Faz, I'll give you a second chance, clean slate, like I have everybody else who's been an asshole. But for us to stop being assholes, it helps not to be one yourself. Do you know why you were so often insulted? Because you insulted everything you didn't like. So, in turn, yeah, you became somewhat infamous and disliked.

And maybe everybody won't put the past behind them, but I'm willing to, if you stay.

*shrugs*

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 04-10-2002 11:31:03 PM
Well, in that case, since you're obviously unwilling to take the advice you asked for:

No, I wouldn't mind at all if you got out of the community and went back to bragging to your mirror about how 1337 your kung foo is.

And perhaps, when you find another community that can tolerate gasbagging punks that have yet to hit puberty as long as we did with you, you'll remember not to come asking for input and help while at the same time delivering half-assed insults in an equally half-assed attempt to look somewhat intelligent.

Gork
Pancake
posted 04-10-2002 11:31:40 PM
Heh Im taking some shit right now... I went into Tippmann's own paintball forum and i Immediatel inspired a 21 post misdirected flame.. ill post the link up later...

As far as you go I have to say count me as neutral, however I defiantely dont see you as any kind of annoyance or troublsome shady character. As far as EQ goes, why dont you come over to my server and we can chill.

As far as talking about martial arts in game, if you overplay it you get bad feedback, and beyond that it generally is bad to referance RL in game because people play EQ, on a large scale, to get away from RL for awhile.

As for the people who are giving you shit, well step forward, state your case, the house will hear you now.

I can count my own enemies on this board, shit happens, personalities clash, thats the way it is, It seems im awfully abrasive when posting and people like to pick me as a rant target when i step my foot in the door, I dont always mean to make a jab at someone, but alot of times they take It as one.

Anyways yes lets hear those as of yet silent people who have a grievence.

Another Unsolved Mystery is goin' down in history.
Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 04-10-2002 11:32:05 PM
quote:
Kinanik was naked while typing this:
Hey, if you don't like his comments, don't read them. (What everyone does to me )

It's not his job to cater to you, is it?


Kinda hard when you're in the middle of a thread and he's popping up spouting martial arts crap all over the place or talking about how l33t he is on IRC while you're trying to have a conversation with others....

Although you do have a point... uh... what's your name again?

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
-----------------------------------
"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
-----------------------------------
That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-10-2002 11:32:42 PM
I kinda just glazed through that whole thing, which reminded me.

What ever happened to yam?

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Solstyce
Vampiric pixie that might eat your face, if you're lucky
posted 04-10-2002 11:32:54 PM
Lesse here...

- Lack of grammar/spelling/grasp of basic English: NEGATIVE.
- Insulting people/the boards for no apparent reason: NEGATIVE.
- Trolling for arguments: NEGATIVE.
- Taking insults/criticism like a paper cup takes a nuclear blast: NEGATIVE.
- Being generally annoying/intolerable: NEGATIVE.

Congratulations! You are officially not a shitfuck! Get your diploma on the right.

P.S. This post = lotsa respect.

Shhh. Everyone will hear us. Everyone will know.
Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 04-10-2002 11:33:32 PM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator probably says this to all the girls:
Kinda hard when you're in the middle of a thread and he's popping up spouting martial arts crap all over the place or talking about how l33t he is on IRC while you're trying to have a conversation with others....

Although you do have a point... uh... what's your name again?



Don't make me hurt you

Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 04-10-2002 11:34:41 PM
quote:
Elvish Crack Piper enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I kinda just glazed through that whole thing, which reminded me.

What ever happened to yam?


Yamaneco = Teir.

He's still here.

Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 04-10-2002 11:34:54 PM
You idiot. You will not gain favor on this board by using insults like "you have no life" and "geeks" and "losers".

That makes you an asshole jock. I loathe them.

As they said... If you want to be treated humanely, don't put yourself on a fucking pedestal.

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 04-10-2002 11:38:08 PM
quote:
Kegwen had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
You idiot. You will not gain favor on this board by using insults like "you have no life" and "geeks" and "losers".

That makes you an asshole jock. I loathe them.

As they said... If you want to be treated humanely, don't put yourself on a fucking pedestal.



Yo, he was using that as an example for what others called him

(Unless I missed somthing)

Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 04-10-2002 11:40:55 PM
kegwen ap: But he did insult us for no apparent reason
hailstormjuly: Where?
kegwen ap: Lots of "u r all geekz and ther4 i am so much beter but u still haet me and i dont understand y, prkcs!!11"
kegwen ap: If you read his entire post.
hailstormjuly: Did so, eh, most of it I thought was lashing out... expactly what I'd do if I were insulted/on the verge of becoming the board bitch for so long. ;p
kegwen ap: Hehe
kegwen ap: Well, the jock attitude in general isn't going to make people happy
Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 04-10-2002 11:41:28 PM
quote:
A sleep deprived Elvish Crack Piper stammered:
What ever happened to yam?


The above character is retired.

Steven Steve
posted 04-10-2002 11:43:03 PM
Okay, let me put it this way. I'm am absolutely sorry to anyone I have inflicted grief upon.

And Parcelan, looking at other people's reactions to you, you seem to be a nice person. But goddamn, you flame like... well, burning. Obviously you have no idea what it's like to be squashed like you've done to me. You're not going to like this, but I imagine that I'd be like just like you if I were a "respected" citizen of Evercrest. However, because of your style of flaming, you are, ironically, the icon of about 90% of which I hate on these message boards. I hope I haven't pissed you off too bad.

So I suppose I've learned something here, and that's that I'm not a good social adapter. But is this a good thing, or a bad thing?

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-10-2002 11:45:33 PM
Very nice screenshot their tieryam.

Hey fastfist(that sounds wrong ) Where to do train at and in what city/state? I want to know where to go so I can beat you in a sparring duel.

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 04-10-2002 11:47:11 PM
It is a bad thing in your case. It's okay to say: "You may like this, but I enjoy that."

It's not okay to say: "You may like this, but you're an idiot, because it doesn't have kung foo." Which is what you've done.

People who get on my good side generally regard me as a friendly fellow. The idiots that get on my bad side are people like you.

I do know what it's like to be squished under a heel, and that's why I grew teeth and claws to defend myself with. If I didn't, I'd still be taking shit from little poo-covered assrags like you.

Stop deserving it, and you'll stop getting it. Understand?

Now, try again, asshopper.

Steven Steve
posted 04-10-2002 11:47:20 PM
It's in Beaverton, Oregon. It's on TV highway, but that's putting it generally as I don't know the street address, but it's across from an Intel building.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Steven Steve
posted 04-10-2002 11:48:41 PM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Mr. Parcelan wrote:
It is a bad thing in your case. It's okay to say: "You may like this, but I enjoy that."

It's not okay to say: "You may like this, but you're an idiot, because it doesn't have kung foo." Which is what you've done.

People who get on my good side generally regard me as a friendly fellow. The idiots that get on my bad side are people like you.

I do know what it's like to be squished under a heel, and that's why I grew teeth and claws to defend myself with. If I didn't, I'd still be taking shit from little poo-covered assrags like you.

Stop deserving it, and you'll stop getting it. Understand?

Now, try again, asshopper.


Well, only in time can I prove this. I'm trying to get things figured out right now.

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 04-10-2002 11:50:55 PM
You made a good step there in not making a smart-ass comment. Keep on it.

I wish you luck on sorting things out, and hope we won't have this exchange of words again.

Steven Steve
posted 04-10-2002 11:54:38 PM
Well 3 for me, 2 against me so far
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-10-2002 11:57:55 PM
Im in Longview WAshington. Come to the acedemy of Kung fu. I beat your at MA their.
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Eumin!
Pancake
posted 04-10-2002 11:59:01 PM
As someone who just showed up to the boards .. I took your post very mean like. Personaly I don't know you, or can't make any judgements either way.. but just wanted to let you know what I thought.
Steven Steve
posted 04-11-2002 12:06:44 AM
Okay, I'm going to try this on for one week. If people don't like me anymore, then I'll leave. (Not really your loss, though, right?)
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Tier the Genius™
Dark Elf Pimp
posted 04-11-2002 12:12:06 AM
I have to go with the trend here... I don't mind you, Faz, except for those posts where you bash someone else's opinion that you don't like.

Nope, I don't care (positively or negatively) about your reet martial arts posts... Everyone has their hobbies.

Anyway, if you correct those flaws, the more power to you.

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 04-11-2002 05:13:31 AM
seriouly, CUT THE FUCKEN CRAP, stay, and just post, you where an ass at the begining and you have a big name you need to lose, BUT WHO THE FUCK CARES, noone here wants to see you, or any one else whos posting here go, and noone cn tell you how to post, just stay, and through good deeds your actions shall be forgivin, not for going around bitching about everyone else being mean to you

but, aswell, everyone else really should stop bithcing baout you and just randomlyt saying very un-funny things about martial arts


Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Blindy
Roll for initiative, Monkey Boy!
posted 04-11-2002 05:41:32 AM
quote:
Fazumzen Fastfist got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
-snip-

I don't know a 13 year old that would sit down and write something that long if he really didn't want to stay. Just leave faz alone. The general consensus is if you are annoyed by a thread, don't read it, well if you are annoyed by faz's posts, don't read them, just skip right over. It's really not that hard.

On a plane ride, the more it shakes,
The more I have to let go.
Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 04-11-2002 05:57:33 AM
You realize you fucked up, and you're trying to make ammends.

Sounds good to me.

Some things I suggest...
Lay off the Kung-Fu talk (everybody's been saying that anyway).
Try not to be a smart-ass for awhile...some people can do that right off the bat, but seeing as how you've already made a name, making smart-ass comments alot is going to get some hypersensitive people on you. They'll take them seriously because of your past.

It'll take a long time to get people to leave you alone...I know what that's like, now, and when I first joined...when I first joined, in a way, I earned what I got...but it continued for almost a year (I still get comments every now and then) after I stopped what I was doing...which was being a really immature 13-year-old girl.

Beta Tested
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 06:04:28 AM
Faz, honestly I kinda like you. The again I haven't been here as long to see what exactly you may have done right/wrong, but I don't really care about that. I see you as a pretty decent guy. Just chill out a bit when it comes to a clash of opinions methinks. If you don't like what some one is saying, tell them that, but don't diss them because they don't like what you do.

Hehe, I kinda have the same problems with a few guys IRL, but eh. Good luck in changing you ways, I know it's not exactly easy to do something like that. And stick around.

What's this thing do?
That would be sooo cool if it wasn't going to hurt us.
Melphina's Magelo
Redmage Darkrayver
Moron
posted 04-11-2002 06:04:58 AM
I'm sorry..Faz-who?

Is completely indifferent until you piss him off

Speak kindly to me or you get a new name

Ptomias
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 06:26:21 AM
Eh, I'm new to this board (found it this morning), but why don't you just make a new screen name? Then you can try again, following the advice all these people gave you and see if it works...

Oh, and I bet I'm smarter than a lot of people who post on this board. But does that regard actually add or detract from the comments I make? Honestly, there are people who are smarter than others in this world. Some of those people go around bragging about it, which is fine since we have something called "rational faculties" that allow us to ignore them (my personal choice). Others of those people don't "brag" about it, because they really don't care what other people do or do not think about them.

That said, and this goes in clear contradiction to the point I was making in the previous paragraph, anytime someone posts on this board, they have the intention for others to read it. That said, any remark about one's personal prowess in a particular field of human ability was posted so that others would, in theory, believe them. The motivation for this is different for different people, but the question is the same: Why would you post that you have X skill, other than to let people know you have X skill, if you don't want them to respect your opinion for it. My posting "I'm smarter" doesn't (a) make me so, nor does it (b) make my arguments any more credible. So why post anything regarding the skill you have, other than to simply make the point you had in the first place? (Hence the contradiction.... or is it?)

So now we boil down the the real point of this inane rambling... sure, we post so that others can read it, but we want others to read it for our own satisfaction. If we post a joke, its so that others will laugh, and from that, we derive satisfaction. If we post a rant, it is so that others may read it, and agree. If we post a troll, it is so that others will read it, and strongly disagree and agree, and thus we supposedly gain satisfaction. If we post a "brag" it is so that others may read it, and respect us for it.

Why would we want people to respect us for what we claim to be true? The only possible motivation that I can see, is because that person is insecure in their respect for themself.

Ergo, I think you are an insecure person. Work on it a bit.

Ptomias
Pancake
posted 04-11-2002 06:29:03 AM
My guess is that 20% of you will understand the real message in that post, and that 95% of those people are lurkers.
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 04-11-2002 06:40:57 AM
I take that back. The 'I think I'm smarter' conflicts with the concurrent "Faz is an insecure dork" opinion.


You'll live.

[ 04-11-2002: Message edited by: Lenlalron ]

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 04-11-2002 06:53:43 AM
Guys...unless I am a silly fewl, any time Faz posted ANYTHING, it was referenced to kung fu. Come on. Everyone just did it. He really wants to try...let him try.


Although you could have been less scathing on your post.

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
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