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Topic: Is there life after 40?
Soldar
I'll take two of anything, please. To go.
posted 01-26-2002 12:02:25 PM
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Troodon had this to say about Pirotess:
Gate won't save you if you're alone... unless you're lucky enough for the mob to miss you two or three times in a row, your gate will get interrupted before it can save you, unless you have a pet or very high chanelling skill. If you're in a group, others can keep them off you while you gate, if you don't feel guilty about abandoning your group to the fate that was meant for you.

Maybe you're not afraid of dying. But I challenge you to actually say you LIKE dying with a straight face; the lost experience, the hassle of recovering your corpse, the begging for a rez... oh yes, death is so fun, isn't it? Nothing wrong with being afraid of death... it'll keep you alive longer.


Gate has saved my enchanter while soloing. Channeling gets up there so you can cast through a LOT of stuff. At least my enchater can.

I like dying. It's fun to die vs some mobs seeing that "I got aggro over some other higher level warriors" I don't know about you, but I have a guild of people willing to cover my ass. If I die and can't get a rez in a long time, they'll help a brother out.

Here's what you should do with your monk if you're having problems of what to fight.

Fight greater kobolds as zone trash in Sol B. If you're having trouble with them, you're not trying hard enough. You should be able to take them down for awhile for good exp.

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 01-26-2002 03:25:23 PM
i dont mind death, and yes i keep a straight face and sometimes LAUGH about it. I dont play the game to die and would prefer if idont but im not gonna cry and get my pantiesi na bunch about it., NO I DIED VI IS OUT TO GET ME T HIS GAME SUX WAAA WWAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAA

sit down shut up nd get your exp back. PERIOD

frankly its a part of the game lets you know what you can and cant do

like at 16 Dorn conned blue figured id bow kite em

well hes hard to snare even when hes blue i died now i dont try and bowkite dorn anymore!

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Troodon
Technology Luddite
posted 01-26-2002 05:22:08 PM
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Soldar had this to say about (_|_):
Gate has saved my enchanter while soloing. Channeling gets up there so you can cast through a LOT of stuff. At least my enchater can.

I like dying. It's fun to die vs some mobs seeing that "I got aggro over some other higher level warriors" I don't know about you, but I have a guild of people willing to cover my ass. If I die and can't get a rez in a long time, they'll help a brother out.


Don't know how you got to 52 if you like dying... must have taken a while... I've never seen as something to brag about, as it usually means you screwed up somehow. Unless you intentionally sacrificed yourself to save someone else; that's a commendable act, but dying because you got too much agro, overpulled, etc. means you screwed up, or someone else did. Dying because FD failed is just bad luck. But it's certaintly nothing to be proud of.

My guild has helped me on dumb-kills, the greatest being when I was autofollowing someone in Paineel and fell in The Hole. That took a rogue to pick the door open, a necro to sumon my corpse, a wizard to give us all summoned waterstones to breathe, and a coffin someone was kind enough to buy for me, as I was dirt-poor at the time (which is pretty much my situation 90% of the time... where does all my plat go? Some equipment, but most into tradeskills I think.) When I was still new to the guild, someone recovered my corpse in FM when I was 20, too low to be wandering around in that zone by myself (I was on my way back from popping into Burning Wood to forage a radiant meteroite for a quest). My guild helps out a lot, giving me ports, ocassional rezzes and such. I try to help out as much as I get helped.

First raid I was ever on was in Kael Drakkal, back at level 32 (very low for a raid to the Arena!) of course I died, but lucked out in getting a sceptre of mastery, since another group fighting in the area killed them, but had no monk... I was the only monk in the zone. Sadly, some nice SK boots rotted because there weren't ant SKs with us, or anywhere in the zone. (Very few SKs in our guild.)

Everybody should be in a guild by level 30, if not sooner. EQ's not the place to go it alone, almost everything about the game is there to encourage grouping.

I HATE dying... death is something to be avoided, not embraced... but the fear of death shouldn't keep you from taking risks once in a while. I'll take risks where I MIGHT die, but not ones where it's a guarantee. And I make sure to group with my guildmates whenever possible... if not, I make sure the people I'm with know what they're doing.

As for experience, lately I've found GD a good place to fight. I can easily solo drakkel dire wolves. In groups that like taking on giants... good for me because it gives both exp and good faction with coldain and dragons (my faction with coldain is warmly now); I want to do the bracer of hammerfall quest sometime. Would mean never having to worry about buying shurikens again!

Think I'm finally out of the rut with my monk. Won't play her all the time, beacause just meleeing and pulling all the time can get boring if you too it for too long. But you can say that about any class. That's why you should have at least one or two alts, to give some variety. Not only does it help you from getting bored, but it gives you a first hand look at other classes' skills, so you know better what to expect from them in a group.

Thanks to all the people who gave positive, constructive advice... no thanks to all the people who just whacked me on the nose for whining, instead of trying to help. I'm sure all of you have been where I was at some point, or will be some day.

That's all I have to say about that.

Soldar
I'll take two of anything, please. To go.
posted 01-26-2002 05:53:52 PM
My warrior - 52
My enchanter - 60

If you didn't like dying, then being an enchanter would be like stabbing yourself in the wrist with several rusty nails.

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 01-26-2002 06:10:24 PM
Wow, I didn't bother reading the second page of this discussion.

Again, Troodon, the more you talk, the more you reveal to me what you really don't know about this game. Just an observation.

Have fun with whatever class you choose next. Try a cleric.



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Troodon
Technology Luddite
posted 01-26-2002 06:18:29 PM
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Black Mage had this to say about (_|_):
Wow, I didn't bother reading the second page of this discussion.

Again, Troodon, the more you talk, the more you reveal to me what you really don't know about this game. Just an observation.

Have fun with whatever class you choose next. Try a cleric.


Well if you don't bother reading it... you're certianly not qualified to comment on it...

As for what I know or don't know, I never claimed to be an expert on every aspect of the game. But I know what I see. In that sense I am an expert of anything I myself have experienced, something nobody but me can claim... you may disagree with my interpretation of it, but you can't claim it hasn't happened to me. I am certainly qualified to form opinions of my experiences, more so than anyone else, just as you are the most qualified to state opinions about your experiences.

You don't know everything about the game either... nobody does, except maybe the people who made it, and probably not even them. There are things you know that I don't, and vice-versa.

My opinions are based on my own observations. They may change as my experience changes, or my experience may just reinforce them. But opinions aren't about what you know or don't know (as least not entirely); they're about what you think or feel about what you see.

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 01-26-2002 06:26:56 PM
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Troodon had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Well if you don't bother reading it... you're certianly not qualified to comment on it...
Nice opinion.

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As for what I know or don't know, I never claimed to be an expert on every aspect of the game. But I know what I see. In that sense I am an expert of anything I myself have experienced, something nobody but me can claim... you may disagree with my interpretation of it, but you can't claim it hasn't happened to me.
No, I can't truthfully state what you've done and haven't done, but I can say with almost 100% certainty on some things. (Send me a screenshot of PoH that you took yourself )
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I am certainly qualified to form opinions of my experiences,

But I'm not because I didn't read the 2nd page of this thread? You contridict yourself.
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...more so than anyone else, just as you are the most qualified to state opinions about your experiences.
What if it's the same experience, but I've done it more?
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You don't know everything about the game either... nobody does, except maybe the people who made it, and probably not even them. There are things you know that I don't, and vice-versa.
Captain Obvious, to the rescue. Just because I don't know EVERYTHING about the game like Drysart and Rowyl probably do (or could find out alot easier than I)doesn't mean I don't know more than you.
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My opinions are based on my own observations. They may change as my experience changes, or my experience may just reinforce them. But opinions aren't about what you know or don't know (as least not entirely); they're about what you think or feel about what you see.
Umm, that's a great lecture. Maybe you'll be a teacher someday.


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 01-26-2002 06:27:12 PM
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Everybody should be in a guild by level 30, if not sooner. EQ's not the place to go it alone, almost everything about the game is there to encourage grouping.

Lesse, I got in a guild at about level 12, stayed till about 20, the guild disbanded, then I started a new guild when I was about 25, that one disbanded at about 30, and I've been finding pickup groups and places to solo since then.

30-37: Paw/South Karana. Great exp.
37-50: Spectres in Oasis. Slow, sure, but the money's good.
50-52: Lower Guk. IoN = easy easy experience.

Monks have a MUCH much larger range of zones they can fight in and do WELL, even with bare fists. (You do remember those, dont you? Ya know, no weapons. Yeah. What they used BEFORE Velious and Kunark. Pfft.) You just arent looking hard enough.

Delphi
I walk in the Light
Facing the Darkness Boldly
I fear no Evil
Skaw
posted 01-26-2002 09:37:03 PM
If you don't like dieing, stop playing your monk at 45, your not gonna like pulling for a raid, you will die ALOT, MORE OFTEN than the enchanters.

And yes, enchanters aren't easy to level, later in the game, they die, overly alot, other wise THIS: would be atleast DOUBLE the time time played, atleast.

[ 01-26-2002: Message edited by: Skaw ]

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