Catholic school finally pays off!
I always thought it was watching me back . . .
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
I said nothing! Nothing at all!
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Genericgirl had this to say about Robocop:
Oh and that is not all! Please explore more of the site like the Betty Bowers area.
(Hint Hint)
cant. stop. laughing.
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Blind Swordsman had this to say about Robocop:
Oh.. my.. god.. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/sissyreader.html
this is SO wrong, hate wafts off of these people like a foul stench and they call themselves Christains, people like this and jack chick give christains a bad name.
Meeting so many people like this is what made me leave christianity, they say their god loves everyone but then they say if you dont belive in their god you will burn in "hell".
ok ill stop my rant before i get fully worked up [ 12-30-2001: Message edited by: Anklebitur D'gnome ]
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Anklebitur D'gnome had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
this is SO wrong, hate wafts off of these people like a foul stench and they call themselves Christains, people like this and jack chick give christains a bad name.Meeting so many people like this is what made me leave christianity, they say their god loves everyone but then they say if you dont belive in their god you will burn in "hell".
ok ill stop my rant before i get fully worked up
Dude scroll to the bottom and look at people who bought the book number one buyer is Adolf Hitler 
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Kameks had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Dude scroll to the bottom and look at people who bought the book number one buyer is Adolf Hitler
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Customers who bought titles by Pastor Deacon Fred also bought titles by these authors
eh.. close enough... funny
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Check out the big brain on Genericgirl!
A Christian view. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1101/biblesex.html
More proof the bible is crap.
Just in case anyone got offended.
America's past time! Whip it out and go for it!
With new linking action, you can masturbate with your friends!
Great at parties, just hop up on the table and go!
Family outing? Nothing is more exciting the starting an ole fashion family romp!
(Sorry, Im still drunk from the night before ^_^)
Ferrel!
Is this supposed to be a parody site?
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Ferrel had this to say about Duck Tales:
Masturbation!America's past time! Whip it out and go for it!
With new linking action, you can masturbate with your friends!
Great at parties, just hop up on the table and go!
Family outing? Nothing is more exciting the starting an ole fashion family romp!
(Sorry, Im still drunk from the night before ^_^)
Now that's funny LOL.
This is to help all you UNCLEAN satanists overcome your urges!
http://members.tripod.com/~Leon1/overcome.html
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about pies:
Wow, that site's even funnier than the other!
People who think that they're mission in life is to act holier-than-thou and stop others from sinning suck. Too much frickin time on their hands, making a website to help people stop masturbating. Honestly.
I wonder what could be accomplished if people put their selfish energies into more helpful industries...
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Kanid had this to say about Robocop:
If you have to be secretive about anything you do, you know what you are doing is not the right thing to do.I wonder what could be accomplished if people put their selfish energies into more helpful industries...
I see where you're going, but it doesn't apply to everything that is secretive, like if I wanted to buy someone a really cool present, or throw a surprise party... On the same note, most people aren't exactly open about sex... parents don't usually annouce their intentions to have sex in front of their children... Does that mean that it is not the right thing to do?
I mean, who goes to the john with the door open, for example?
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Kanid wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
If you have to be secretive about anything you do, you know what you are doing is not the right thing to do.I wonder what could be accomplished if people put their selfish energies into more helpful industries...
Sooo, we should masturbate in public then...?
And invite me to watch.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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We were all impressed when Kanid wrote:
I wonder what could be accomplished if people put their selfish energies into more helpful industries...
Given the topic, I would guess that we would accomplish a higher birth rate.
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We were all impressed when Palador ChibiDragon wrote:
Given the topic, I would guess that we would accomplish a higher birth rate.
Which the world doesn't need, exactly.
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Vorago wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Nope, it isn't morally wrongNo need to go against my logic, it is infallable. If by some strange loophole it IS proven wrong, all existence ceases to be.
So just don't try
DOGMA REFERENCE!!!!!
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Check out the big brain on Kinanik!
More proof the bible is crap.
Bible = good.
Joke sites = funny
Insert many, many lines from Dogma here.
The air of anti-sex was largely a construction of the Catholic church, which followed in the good old tradition of "If you can't give up something important, it ain't religion." All the major religions have at some time or another advocated giving something up. Catholic clergy just supposedly give up sex.
By the way...tying religion into any moral conversation, especially one dealing with sex, is a bad idea (in case you hadn't noticed). But what the heck, right? Might as well approach the topic with both barrels loaded.
The Kama Sutra is/was an interesting tome to say the least. It was written in an age of comparable Indian enlightenment, when ALL subjects were examined thoroughly. It was an age where Buddhists, Jainists, and other major religious sects were all over the place, with everyone looking for "The Way". Tantra was one of those methods (and contrary to popular infamy, isn't centered entirely around sex...it actually has a lot in common with yoga, near as I can figure, specializing in energy flow, breathing, etc).
In fact it's Victorian-Age beliefs that shape (for better or worse) most of modern thinking. Take, for instance, circumcision. Originally, it was a religious statement, right? Well...that was interesting, but it didn't last in Christian Europe. So they claimed it was healthier (more clean or something). In the Victorian Age, when they couldn't prove that fact, they instead turned around and said that circumcision prevented masturbation which at the time was considered deviant behavior (keep in mind that a lot of things were considered deviant behavior...Women doctors, lawyers, etc, for example). Circumcision later turned back into a cleanliness thing, then the US Navy advocated that non-circumcised men should maybe get circumcised as late in history as WWII, on the grounds that it kept men at sea for long periods from masturbating (obviously if you're 18 and still have your foreskin, you're not likely to give it OR masturbation up). Most times in the modern era, any doctor when asked from a non-religious point of view will tell you that there's no point to it, and that it's actually a fairly barbaric thing to do to a child. Recent evidence suggests that non-circumcised men actually tend to have fewer urinary/penile problems, and they tend to have a higher degree of sensitivity in their genitalia.
Interesting fact: Women used to get circumcised too. Surgical removal of the clitoral hood and the clitoris, often removing the nymphae/labia minora at the same time. Women didn't like that, and in most of the civilized world (and in fact most of the "uncivilized" world) it's considered to be a form of mutilation. That's right guys, women figured out how stupid circumcision was about 150 years ago...and have been letting guys go on with it so guys don't feel funny in the locker room around other guys (more or less...)
What does this have to do with masturbation? Well the fact is that the "moral arguments" around masturbation were created from very similar logic. Keep in mind that there was for the most part very little concern in the higher echelons of male driven society for female pleasure...and the idea of a woman pleasuring herself must've seemed threatening to an insecure power-holding group of men...
As for the religious implications, like I said, religions have to toss out something. Romans and Greeks practiced homosexuality (which was for the most part not much like modern homosexuality, at least mentally...if two guys had sex, it was the man penetrated who was considered gay, not the penetrator, who often did it as a domination/power thing. And of course lesbians have never really been discouraged...unless of course they shun men.)
So masturbation prohibition probably started out as a combination of a means of control, and as a religious "sacrificial lamb" of sorts.
Interestingly enough, theory is that it was Europeans rebelling against the Victorian Age sense of propriety that gave birth to the legend that the French are such good lovers. Likewise, Victorian Age ideals put a saucy little taboo on a lot of largely harmless little kinks and "dirty" acts that many couples in the modern age enjoy without anyone's knowledge.
So do I think that masturbation is wrong? Nope. I could toss out any number of psychoanalytical theoristic quotes from people like Freud, pointing out that sexual repression is a dangerous thing, etc, but I won't. Bottom line is that masturbation is an IMMENSELY personal thing...no-one has the right to tell you not to do it unless you're interfering with their lives in some way. (I mean let's face it...porn-minded fantasies aside wouldn't you wonder about someone free and open with the idea of beating off in front of someone they don't know?) If you choose not to, that's your business. But it should be your choice for your reasons, based on thought and general preference, rather than pointless taboo.
That's like making suicide illegal; if you succeed at it, then what's the worst they can do to you?
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I'm Catholic, and I personally don't see anything wrong with it, although my religion may have something against it. I'm not really sure, I never bothered to look into it.
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Kloie had this to say about pies:
Be it sex or World War 3, Deth usually has something interesting to say.... *L*
i think.. he could write an award winning essay about pocket lint
I'M A FAN OF MAN!
Maybe those job placement tests were right...maybe I should be a psychologist.
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Mine was trying to tell me I should enlist in the Navy, so I told her I couldn't since I was afraid of heights.
She looked puzzled.
So then I explained how I might get submarine duty, and since depth is really just inverse height, I'd be terrified due to my acrophobia.
She probably still looks puzzled.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Leaasa impressed everyone with:
We are taught that our bodies are temples of God, and are to be clean so that the Holy Ghost may dwell within us. Masturbation is a sinful habit that robs one of the Spirit and creates guilt and emotional stress. It is not physically harmful unless practiced in the extreme. It is a habit that is totally self-centered, secretive, and in no way expresses the proper use of the procreative power given to man to fulfill eternal purposes. It therefore separates a person from God and defeats the gospel plan.This is to help all you UNCLEAN satanists overcome your urges!
http://members.tripod.com/~Leon1/overcome.html
I LIVE IN THIS WORLD EVERY DAY!!! ARRRGH!
that is all
