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Topic: Is masturbation morally wrong?
Kameks
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posted 12-30-2001 03:15:43 PM
Ok i promise you guys this isnt a sick thread so please no tips on HOW you masturbate or your techinques here Im just curious if you think masturbating is morally wrong. I was having a discusion with my friend the other day and somehow the topic of mastubation being wrong came up.

Now religiously speaking i have mixed feelings on this. I belive masturbation is OK as long as i simply clear my head of any shal we say erotic thoughts and let is just be a physical thing. My friend on the other hand thinks HEY everything is fine and will dream about whatever he wants when he does the deed. So im just curious what are your personal feelings on this and why exactly? Are you for or against it and if so is it on moral/religious grounds?

Well discuss and please once again no pictures or posts explaining in detail about your secret downlow handshake

People who try to commit suicide should be dragged out into the street and shot. Heck they wont complain this what they wanted :)

Sig pic done with Microsoft paint, Work that doobie Pikachu.

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 12-30-2001 03:16:42 PM
I use a lot of lotion.
Kameks
BANNED
posted 12-30-2001 03:23:24 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Robocop:
I use a lot of lotion.

YOU HAVE DEFILED THIS THREAD! And jeez arent you like only 15 or something ya sicko.
People who try to commit suicide should be dragged out into the street and shot. Heck they wont complain this what they wanted :)

Sig pic done with Microsoft paint, Work that doobie Pikachu.

Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 12-30-2001 03:24:24 PM
No, it isn't morally wrong.
Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 12-30-2001 03:24:47 PM
never read anything about it in any holy book about it being "wrong"

some people like to twist words from said books to their own views

also it depends on what sect of Christianity you follow

the Romans, when they first became a christain state changed a shit load of stuff to fit their goals, for example in the middle ages it was considered a sin to expose ones body even to ones'self (yuck , people took baths at least once or twice a year at most )

i dont know much of what Protestants did though

but im Agnostic, so none of this bothers me

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 12-30-2001 03:25:58 PM
I'm 83, thank you very much.

No, it's not wrong. Few people my age can get pleasure any other way.

Mightion Defensor
posted 12-30-2001 03:29:01 PM
Lewis Grizzard said once, "It's the safest form of sex on the planet."
Ruvie's Alt
Haven't you always wanted a monkey?
posted 12-30-2001 03:37:14 PM
Generally, it depends upon a person's upbringing. If they are taught as a child that masturbation is wrong, they will think that. If they are taught that masturbation in public will win them $5 for each *fap*, they will think that.

Personally, it's morally neutral for me. Not evil, not good.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 12-30-2001 03:57:49 PM
Isaac Asimov said there are two types of people: those who masturbate, and those who lie about not doing it.
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Maradon!
posted 12-30-2001 04:15:31 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Isaac Asimov said there are two types of people: those who masturbate, and those who lie about not doing it.

True dat.

I think the whole thing about masturbation being morally wrong is another of those things like premarital sex.

The bible doesn't really say anything about premarital sex or masturbation, but the catholic church wanted to sell more indulgences in the dark ages so they made more "rules" and pointed to the one fable where a guy was punished by god for refusing to impregnate his brother's widow to back his accusations up.

Even if it did say anything along those lines, I got some rough news: The bible was written by humans. That's why it says "Leviticus 4:14" and "Job 3:16" and not "God 2:15". It was also translated from latin, re-copied by hand hundreds of thousands of times, and under the complete control of a corrupt aristocracy.

These people were no more invunlerable to corruption and deception than anyone else.

Drysart
Pancake
posted 12-30-2001 04:28:11 PM
quote:
Maradön? had this to say about Pirotess:
The bible doesn't really say anything about premarital sex or masturbation,

Actually, it does. A few places, in fact. And in every modern translation.

quote:
Maradön? had this to say about Punky Brewster:
That's why it says "Leviticus 4:14" and "Job 3:16" and not "God 2:15".

God buys billboards beside highways nowadays with personal messages from him. Surely you've seen them?

[ 12-30-2001: Message edited by: Drysart ]

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 12-30-2001 04:31:18 PM
This has nothing to do with the topic, but a girl once asked me, quote, "Do you think about me when you... you know... with your hand?"

WTF?!

Anyway, it's such a silly thing to do or not do, that I don't think it matters much who considers it wrong or fine. I doubt we'll see any crusades railing against the sexual repression of the Christian church anytime soon.

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 12-30-2001 04:33:59 PM
Nope, it isn't morally wrong

No need to go against my logic, it is infallable. If by some strange loophole it IS proven wrong, all existence ceases to be.

So just don't try

Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 12-30-2001 04:37:03 PM
ROFL Drys! I've actually seen shirts like that. And I don't think there's anything wrong with masturbation as long as it's in the privacy of your own home. Oh, and also if you hide the evidence. :P I *hate* running across pr0n on my bro's computer when I'm trying to use Kazaa.
Maradon!
posted 12-30-2001 04:42:31 PM
quote:
Sentow had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
This has nothing to do with the topic, but a girl once asked me, quote, "Do you think about me when you... you know... with your hand?"

Dude, that's where you're supposed to come in and say "Oh, I think about you sometimes"

quote:
Actually, it does. A few places, in fact. And in every modern translation.

I suspected as much, which is why I went on to explain why the bible has zero influence over me

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 12-30-2001 04:44:46 PM
quote:
Dude, that's where you're supposed to come in and say "Oh, I think about you sometimes"

Well I know that now...

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Kameks
BANNED
posted 12-30-2001 05:26:54 PM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Actually, it does. A few places, in fact. And in every modern translation.

Hey Drys can you tell me where exactly im just curious

People who try to commit suicide should be dragged out into the street and shot. Heck they wont complain this what they wanted :)

Sig pic done with Microsoft paint, Work that doobie Pikachu.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 12-30-2001 06:10:39 PM
quote:
Illanae had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
No, it isn't morally wrong.

Indeed.

Parc is just trying to bother you... but it was somehow appropriate. Rock on Parc.

KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 12-30-2001 06:39:17 PM
Morally wrong? Nah...

From a religious sense, yes it is. Does the phrase "Thou shalt not spill thy seed." Come to mind? Some religions view sex and intercourse strictly as procreation of the race. To masturbate and "spill thy seed" is to go against what the religion dictates. And we all know how blasphemous that is in the eyes of the churchs and zealots / fanatics.

Personally I look at it this way, sometimes ya just got that urge and have to crank one out.

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Peach
Good intentions? Or *bad* intentions?
posted 12-30-2001 06:53:22 PM
Lotion is bad. Perfumes and stuff.. not to mention it always drys out too quickly.

*coughs* Ya know.

and it depends on who's morals you're talking about.

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 12-30-2001 07:03:43 PM
I see nothing wrong with it.

Then again, I only masturbate so I can get those cool hairy palms the adults always told me about.

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 12-30-2001 07:39:29 PM
*holds up a stuffed Pikachu*

*pulls the string on the back of the Pikachu, and watches it vibrate*

I feel that it is safe to say that masturbation, if deemed evil, is by far the lesser of two evils.

Pika pika.

[ 12-30-2001: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 12-30-2001 07:41:36 PM
Nope!
Veni, vidi, vici
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 12-30-2001 07:41:49 PM
quote:
KaLourin DthBlayde had this to say about Robocop:
Morally wrong? Nah...

From a religious sense, yes it is. Does the phrase "Thou shalt not spill thy seed." Come to mind? Some religions view sex and intercourse strictly as procreation of the race. To masturbate and "spill thy seed" is to go against what the religion dictates. And we all know how blasphemous that is in the eyes of the churchs and zealots / fanatics.

Personally I look at it this way, sometimes ya just got that urge and have to crank one out.


one sanskrit word; Tantra.

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 12-30-2001 07:41:50 PM
everything is morally wrong to someone, and its only truely morally wrong if you yourself think it is.

what someone does in thier own room is none of my god damn bussiness anyway.

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Genericgirl
Generictitle
posted 12-30-2001 07:42:09 PM
I will never look at a Pikachu the same way ever again.
Sarudani Miolnir
Old-school poster
posted 12-30-2001 08:29:17 PM
There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.
I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.

You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,

Because

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.

Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood!

Every sperm is useful.
Every sperm is fine.
God needs everybody's.
Mine! And mine! And mine!

Let the Pagan spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaate!

Somehow this just belongs in this thread.

Sar...

Kameks
BANNED
posted 12-30-2001 08:40:07 PM
Well here is to hoping it aint a sin cause otherwise i just sinned for a nice LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG 2 and a half minutes
People who try to commit suicide should be dragged out into the street and shot. Heck they wont complain this what they wanted :)

Sig pic done with Microsoft paint, Work that doobie Pikachu.

Genericgirl
Generictitle
posted 12-30-2001 08:52:32 PM
Led
*kaboom*
posted 12-30-2001 09:00:43 PM
quote:
Kameks had this to say about Pirotess:
Well here is to hoping it aint a sin cause otherwise i just sinned for a nice LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG 2 and a half minutes

I feel dirty for even reading that. I am going to have to kill you now. Please bend over

Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 12-30-2001 09:05:54 PM
quote:
Dr. Vorbis had this to say about Optimus Prime:
one sanskrit word; Tantra.

... Kama

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 12-30-2001 09:06:05 PM
quote:
Genericgirl had this to say about Optimus Prime:
A Christian view. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1101/biblesex.html

That was pretydamnfunny, I have to say.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 12-30-2001 09:07:31 PM
Heh, that is a very amusing site.
Za’afiel
Coolest Hamster Pimp Ever!
posted 12-30-2001 09:11:18 PM
quote:
Genericgirl had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
A Christian view. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1101/biblesex.html

quote:

6. Which of the following X-rated descriptions appears in the Bible?

A. Men hung like donkeys who shoot loads like horses.
B. Men fondling a woman’s breasts for sexual pleasure.
C. People peeing on walls and eating their own feces.
D. All of the above.


haha

also this web page pisses me off

im an "un-saved moron"

heh

"Consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ragabash
Pancake
posted 12-30-2001 09:15:09 PM
I myself have no moral objection to it.

Kalourin mentioned spill thy seed, but there are wet dreams. I find it odd that a god would create us to already do what he tells us not to without a choice. I mean some people believe in original sin, but I don't think this is what they mean.

However, I do believe the bible says something about not lusting. And masturbation is like the epitomy of lust. So if your a "nice christian lad" like you said you were in another thread, then I would think it'd be wrong. That's just my view on it, ask your pastor/priest/whatever if you really want to know/need to have someone else tell you.

Feed my hungry soul.
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 12-30-2001 09:15:40 PM
Did you check the answers?

It was "D," if I recall correctly.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Genericgirl
Generictitle
posted 12-30-2001 09:25:18 PM
quote:
Genericgirl wrote this stupid crap:
A Christian view. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1101/biblesex.html

Oh and that is not all! Please explore more of the site like the Betty Bowers area.
(Hint Hint)

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 12-30-2001 09:32:24 PM
Oh. My.

{damn multi-panel image!}

Anyway, commemorative LotR cock-rings from McDonald's???!!!!

[ 12-30-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Led
*kaboom*
posted 12-30-2001 09:33:09 PM
quote:

Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Robocop:
I use a lot of lotion.

OMG BAHAHAHAHAHAHA *dies laughing*

Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 12-30-2001 09:33:52 PM
... Wtfuxx0r y0?
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
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