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Drysart had this to say about Optimus Prime:
What the hell were you expecting to be inside the XBox?
a monkey that controls it, and when a game was loaded up the monkey would be zapped with electricity and run around its little wheel to make the game run!
The hardware specs don't thrill me. The proof, as always, is in the games. But I've heard that the controllers manage to actually suck more ass than the Dreamcast's pack-in controllers, and that takes doing.
I find it rather odd that people are going so far out of their way to revile the X-Box for such stupid reasons. Who gives a flying fuck what it looks like? The fact is that it performs quite well, and the launch games look outragously better than anything to date in a console.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Who gives a flying fuck what it looks like?
I do. If the X-Box was, say, The Q-Box, and painted a bright technicolor rainbow, I'd never buy one.
Luckily "X-Box" is a cool name, and Black/Green is a cool color scheme. 
I also like the connectors for the controllers, with the safety cut-out. Our dog has wondered across the cord several times, and the quick-release has prevented damage to the console.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage wrote this stupid crap:
Hehehe. I was referring to The Gord's stupid comment that PS2 was better simply because he thought it looked cooler.I also like the connectors for the controllers, with the safety cut-out. Our dog has wondered across the cord several times, and the quick-release has prevented damage to the console.
Oh hell yeah, the PS2 is dead sexy, the X-Box is just hot.
What's this quick release you speak of? [ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: Demitri ]
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Koska Kintaro wrote this stupid crap:
I'd like to take this time to point out that, while the X-box specs may match up precisely to those described in this article, they're still head-over-heels superior to anything you'll find in a PS2 or Gamecube.
Duh. Tell me how much I care. You can't, because I really don't.
Then your game resumes where you left off.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about John Romero:
There's an additional connector (quick-release type) about six inches out from where the controller plugs into the console. If you trip over the cord, or just get too much English on that Kung Fu move in a game, you can't rip the cord out of the console: it separates at the quick-release, and you get a screen prompt to plug it back in.Then your game resumes where you left off.
That is bad ass. Here is an IRC snippit.
PS2 - Dead sexy, female computer geek in glasses, wearing boxers, and chewing on a pencil sexy.
X-Box - Cheerleader sexy.
GameCube - Your little sister.
Grammar r hard. [ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: Demitri ]
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Sentow had this to say about pies:
I still haven't figured out how tons of processing power makes a game good.
It doesn't, by itself.
But hardware is the measure of game potential. And X-Box has plenty of that. And the release games, across several genres, are amazing.
When I get a few free moments, I plan to review the one's I've played.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
. . . though the repressed librarian in a miniskirt is a close second . . .
. . . rawrrrrr.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
It doesn't, by itself.But hardware is the measure of game potential. And X-Box has plenty of that. And the release games, across several genres, are amazing.
When I get a few free moments, I plan to review the one's I've played.
There! Thank god, my children do indeed understand the way of the console... Now, I shall return to my place of rest, where I shall slumber until the era of a new console genera-hey, just where the hell do you think you're going? Come on! The credits are about to roll! They're gonna fade to black any minute! Aw... man...
The circle is complete. The student has become the Master . . .
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
2 words that say so much
dont like it make your own damn console just cause its MS doesnt mean its crap.. Age of Empires rocked and it had the MS logo on it.
I know its cool to hate MS, but id take windows over Linux any day cept for programming which i only do at a mediocre level
im lazy and i dont wnana spend 3 hours getting my hardware and software ready to play fucking GlQUAKE CAPICE 
live 100% MS free i DARE you
The prettier games look, the crappier content companies seem to force on us.
We'll have quite a few great games, but I predict that more crappier games will come.
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Lenlalron thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
We all forgeth something.The prettier games look, the crappier content companies seem to force on us.
We'll have quite a few great games, but I predict that more crappier games will come.
helloooo king obvious!
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Lawgiver Cadga had this to say about dark elf butts:
helloooo king obvious!
Weeeeeeeellllll, SOMEONE had to do it. Can I get a martyr award?
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Lenlalron had this to say about John Romero:
Weeeeeeeellllll, SOMEONE had to do it. Can I get a martyr award?
for being a good sport yes
its shaped like poop!
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Synjari had this to say about Duck Tales:
Maradon.. Sorry kiddo.. but Nintendo has it pretty good. The target audience is children. Yes Pokemon is alot of it.. but then they are making the big bucks.. not you. Their largest source of income is probably from parents getting their kids the latest Pokecrap. *shrug* Not only that.. The other games are targeted more towards juveniles. In general, Id rather KaL's little hyperactive step-brother play with his Nintendo than a PS, I think its probably more durable for wear and tear
And once again someone disagrees with me, then goes on to reiterate everything I just said.
Thank you thank you!
At any rate, there is one thing that blows both Xbox and gamecube completely out of the water. PS2 has Squaresoft. Need I say more?
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Star Collective had this to say about John Romero:
Umm...I fail to see any "reiteration" Maradon. Perhaps you could point it out for me because all I've read in your posts is you bashing Nintendo.
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Originally posted by Me:
They'll never be a serious console ever again....they're doomed to cater to the pokemon niche for all eternity.
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Originally posted by Synjari:
The target audience is children. Yes Pokemon is alot of it...Their largest source of income is probably from parents getting their kids the latest Pokecrap....The other games are targeted more towards juveniles.
Reiteration.
For whoever said they're using the 10GB hard drive as a memory card, look again. It said the memory cards share the USB BUS with the controllers. The hard drive and DVD are on an IDE BUS. While the function of the DVD is obvious, that hard drive isn't being used for saved games. That's 10 GB reserved in its entirety for the operating system (and swap space, patches, etc). Perhaps it's an indicator of where Windows is headed.
The X-Box seems more like a production gimmic to boost the market for PC games. In the past, even though PCs had the hardware capability to handle modified console games, the consoles got a lot more of the game market. People often waited up to 2 years for console games to come out for PC, while the reverse was only true on rare occasions. Then there was the constant upgrading to keep up with system requirements for PC games, because a converted PS1 game would typically call for a 300MHz or better (just a random example) PC processor. So it does make sense. It's just nothing spectacular.
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Lawgiver Cadga had this to say about Duck Tales:
who
cares2 words that say so much
dont like it make your own damn console
just cause its MS doesnt mean its crap.. Age of Empires rocked and it had the MS logo on it.
I know its cool to hate MS, but id take windows over Linux any day cept for programming which i only do at a mediocre level
im lazy and i dont wnana spend 3 hours getting my hardware and software ready to play fucking GlQUAKE CAPICE
live 100% MS free i DARE you
Preach on, brotha'.
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Ford Prefect had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
I'd say they've found a productive use for the semi-obsolited PC hardware that they'd never sell otherwise. Ya gotta admit, processors have a pretty short run these days.For whoever said they're using the 10GB hard drive as a memory card, look again. It said the memory cards share the USB BUS with the controllers. The hard drive and DVD are on an IDE BUS. While the function of the DVD is obvious, that hard drive isn't being used for saved games. That's 10 GB reserved in its entirety for the operating system (and swap space, patches, etc). Perhaps it's an indicator of where Windows is headed.
The X-Box seems more like a production gimmic to boost the market for PC games. In the past, even though PCs had the hardware capability to handle modified console games, the consoles got a lot more of the game market. People often waited up to 2 years for console games to come out for PC, while the reverse was only true on rare occasions. Then there was the constant upgrading to keep up with system requirements for PC games, because a converted PS1 game would typically call for a 300MHz or better (just a random example) PC processor. So it does make sense. It's just nothing spectacular.
You should really start having a clue before expounding bullshit.
Saved games is exactly what the hard drive does. The memory cards are only necessary if you want portability with your saved games/characters.
Bashing X-Box because of its hardware is stupid, unless the comparison is with other consoles. Where it stands out quite nicely, BTW. Saying, "Oooh, my PC has better hardware," doesn't mean dick. It's not a PC; it's a console.
The worst that can be said is that MS is trying something different by blurring the lines between console and PC. The result is you get damn good hardware for a console . . . which means there's more potential for game designers to work with.
PC to console or console to PC game translations are only a minor part of the market, unless someone's been hiding figures from me. X-Box is simply a very good console with some kickass games at launch, right now--it's long-term future will be determined by the next generation of games developed for it, not by lame comparisons with PCs or mindless bashing of MS.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Personally I don't plan on buying an X-box for quite some time because there really aren't any games out for it right now that are "must haves".. And I certainly don't have enough money to buy 2... So likely Ill ask for a GameCube for Christmas.
Not because I like Nintendo over Microsoft.
Honestly in my "gamers" opinion the X-box has more potential, more drive, more oomph and more mass market appeal. I think it will do really well. And I'm not just saying that because I developed on it. *grins*
I don't own a PS2 yet either, but the want for a few games that are out exclusively on it are making me want to purchase one.
Although I still play pretty regularly, my Nintendo 64, the Dreamcast and the Playstation.
The Gamecube is not, and will not be, Nintendos Flagship console. That title greatly goes to the GBA, one of the most astounding handheld systems on the market.
Microsoft was smart pulling off the X-Box with such more upper-teen/young-adult oriented games to seal away Nintendo in the future. SONYs pulled a few cards out of their sleeves in the past(Getting Square to do FF7, The RE series.), so who knows what they'll do against Gates.
This has been a little notice from the teen that loves his video games.
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Demitri had this to say about Cuba:
That is bad ass. Here is an IRC snippit.PS2 - Dead sexy, female computer geek in glasses, wearing boxers, and chewing on a pencil sexy.
X-Box - Cheerleader sexy.
GameCube - Your little sister.Grammar r hard.
I like glasses. I think they look cute.
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Demitri had this to say about pies:
PS2 - Dead sexy, female computer geek in glasses, wearing boxers, and chewing on a pencil sexy.[/i]
Anyone available? 
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Ford Prefect had this to say about pies:
I'd say they've found a productive use for the semi-obsolited PC hardware that they'd never sell otherwise. Ya gotta admit, processors have a pretty short run these days.So it does make sense. It's just nothing spectacular.
quote:Bloodsage, I see you aren't really grasping of the concept of neutral argument. I was evaluating the matter from both sides. Quite frankly, the X-box has a slightly faster processor and better video than my two-year-old computer, which I don't have the money to replace. Despite that, I'm not about to buy a PC with a P3 and 64MB RAM any time soon.
Bloodsage wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
You should really start having a clue before expounding bullshit.Bashing X-Box because of its hardware is stupid, unless the comparison is with other consoles. Where it stands out quite nicely, BTW. Saying, "Oooh, my PC has better hardware," doesn't mean dick. It's not a PC; it's a console.
The worst that can be said is that MS is trying something different by blurring the lines between console and PC. The result is you get damn good hardware for a console . . . which means there's more potential for game designers to work with.
PC to console or console to PC game translations are only a minor part of the market, unless someone's been hiding figures from me.
However, I do follow the video game market. Roughly 85% of PC video games I've seen on the shelves fall into one of two categories: multiplayer (and multiscreen) internet-dependent games, or games previously released on console. The internet-dependent games typically come out for PC first, whether or not they make the changeover to consoles later. And just to be clear, an internet-dependent game is one where the online multiplayer is as important or more important when compared to any single-console functions the PC has. While I believe consoles have a much larger market share of games than PCs, I'm not about to claim that one as factual.
I know your "posts contain no artificial sweeteners", but you're running around with a rusty knife. If you're responding to me, respond to me, don't drop back to flames about getting a clue (especially when you're ignoring the ever-present FLAME tag). If you'd ditched the insults, I would most likely have let the rest stay at rest. And I know some really bad things that could be said about MS. I know most of them because they were said to my college roommate, the local MS Tech Rep. If I was out to bash MS, trust me, it would be blatantly obvious. My harshest comment in my entire post was
quote:There's some rather subtle humor in there also, which it seems you misinterpreted. If you wanted to complain about MS bashing, you shouldn't have taken my post in block quote, as some others here have done much more MS bashing than I have. If you wanted to respond to what I said, the badass attitude only starts flame wars.
look again.
(*sits back to wait for Bloodsage to read this post over six times in order to produce an adequately insulting counter-counter-flame*)
That should have been your clue.
But the bullshit you were spouting about the X-Box hard drive was just that: your rather uninformed spectulation, heavily laden by an obvious anti-MS agenda.
And you're still doing the same stupid shit. X-Box is not a PC; it makes no sense to compare it to a PC. All consoles are essentially PCs, when you get down to it--they all have processors, graphics subsystems, operating systems.
The real question is how X-Box compares to other consoles, which you have completely ignored. Why is that?
Additionally, your "observations" hardly constitute reliable data regarding transfer of titles between PC and console. I follow PC gaming quite closely, and my observation is exactly the opposite: console-PC ports are the exception rather than the rule.
There's an easy way to avoid being put on the spot: don't spout bullshit. Your comments about the X-Box hard drive were simply wrong, and your further speculation seemed based more in disapproval of MS than anything real.
Would you like to try again, perhaps with your facts straight this time?
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
quote:If you meant that blatant opening insult as a joke, the FUNNY tag was an absolute necessity.
Bloodsage had this to say about pies:
I'm quite aware of the flame tag, thanks. And I use it when appropriate.That should have been your clue.
quote:What'd I just say about that? Other people were bashing much worse than I was. I have an anti-AOL agenda.
But the bullshit you were spouting about the X-Box hard drive was just that: your rather uninformed spectulation, heavily laden by an obvious anti-MS agenda.
quote:So was the article, the point of the whole thread. Live with it.
And you're still doing the same stupid shit. X-Box is not a PC; it makes no sense to compare it to a PC.
quote:That hardware is all custom-designed... mainly to avoid patent violations, but it is.
All consoles are essentially PCs, when you get down to it--they all have processors, graphics subsystems, operating systems.
quote:Because it wasn't the point of the article.
The real question is how X-Box compares to other consoles, which you have completely ignored. Why is that?
quote:Then why is everyone always waiting for games to be ported to PC? If it's a rare exception, people wouldn't constantly expect it.
Additionally, your "observations" hardly constitute reliable data regarding transfer of titles between PC and console. I follow PC gaming quite closely, and my observation is exactly the opposite: console-PC ports are the exception rather than the rule.
quote:So respond to that, and leave the rest out of it.
There's an easy way to avoid being put on the spot: don't spout bullshit. Your comments about the X-Box hard drive were simply wrong,
quote:You're not paying any attention to me at all, are you. You just presume that I have some deep ingrained hatred of Microsoft. I already said, if I was bashing, it would've been blatantly obvious.
and your further speculation seemed based more in disapproval of MS than anything real.
quote:Not in particular. Your facts are as crooked as mine.
Would you like to try again, perhaps with your facts straight this time?
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Ford Prefect had this to say about Cuba:
that hard drive isn't being used for saved games. That's 10 GB reserved in its entirety for the operating system (and swap space, patches, etc).
No.
PS2
Good: Tons of games. Squaresoft (unless you don't play Final Fantasy). Largest installed base. DVD movies work out of the box. Plays PS1 games and works with PS1 controllers. No Pokemon.
Bad: Two controller ports. Internet capabilities very limited. Weakest in the graphics department.
Xbox
Good: Hard drive. Built-in Ethernet. Halo. Best graphics (potentially). No Pokemon. Four controller ports. Best chance of succeeding with online games.
Bad: Few good, exclusive games. You have to pay $30 to make DVD movies work.
Gamecube
Good: Rogue Squadron 2. Price.
Bad: Pokemon, etc. Mini-DVDs. Worst Internet prospects. Few good, exclusive games that aren't N64 games with better graphics (e.g. RS2, SSB2).
Verdict [ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: adenine! ]
PS2 is the best option for the forseeable future, at least until Xbox or Gamecube start getting more good games (hopefully online).
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adenine! had this to say about John Romero:
No more memory cards
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From the original article:
The 8MB memory cards share the USB bus with the controllers. The IDE bus connects a 10GB hard disk and a DVD reader.
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Ford Prefect had this to say about Pirotess:
[QUOTE]adenine! had this to say about John Romero:
[qb]No more memory cards
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From the original article:
The 8MB memory cards share the USB bus with the controllers. The IDE bus connects a 10GB hard disk and a DVD reader.
Don't you get it yet?
The memory cards are only for porting data between different machines. The hard drive saves game data in normal circumstances. [ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
