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Topic: My stand.
Faelynn LeAndris
Lusty busty redheaded wood elf with sharp claws
posted 09-30-2001 12:03:00 PM
I am now going to reply, and I am certain I will piss a lot of people off. But it's beyond that now, and you can hate me all you like.

I am popular here, I am well liked here, and I have quite a bit of sway here. I have never once in my past three years here, ever flaunted that fact, or abused it. There is a good reason for my popularity and reputation here. It is because of who I am, and how I act/treat/respect other people.

I am one of the oldest veterans on this board, only three I know of older than I. This is not a superiority issue, this is a fact. Since my time here, I have seen really good times, and then I see today. As I have said EC is like my second home. And the majority of the populace is tearing it apart. A lot of this is due to more people now than there ever was, but that is not an excuse and I will not accept that.

There is an over abundance of pissing contest going on around here, and a great majority of you are guilty of it and should own up to the fact. Slander is never right, whether the slanderie deserves it or not is irrelevant, and the abuse of this is reprehensible. Debates, debates are good. We've always had them. Nothing wrong there. The first time a personal insult is slung however, it's punishable. Period. So start watching what you say very closely because you could be contributing to the issues at hand. Bitching, bitchin in general is not bad. Bitch fights however are death to a community, and un forgivable. I will be very severe on any I catch doing this. Period

That applies to both Chat and The boards. I am not a mod here on these boards, however for those of you who have been abusing these things it's best for you that I'm not. Because I read these boards religiously and I am ALWAYS here, and you'd have a very big problem when I started coming down on you.

As chat is concerned, I was asked today to ban Paul from sorcery.net, as I have been numerous times in the past yet have never done. But this time my higher up asked it of me, and I was willing to oblidge. People bitched about double standards of the "popular" people. Well this is my responce, in life there is a need for double standards. Maturity governs your ability to survive here, if you lack it, your going to lose. And a lot of you are lacking it, and are main contributers to these problems. Here is where double standards come into play. As an adult you set certain standards for a child, this applies because it is directly maturity related. You may drink or smoke, but never allow a child to do such things. The reason being they do not yet have the maturity to handle such things. THAT is the reason for a double standard. Several people have managed to recover from thier pasts, that is not an issue. But it takes more maturity than some individuals can muster. And no matter the chances given they cannot fathom that. Period. It has no bearing on anyone giving them a hard time based on thier past, because those that overcame thier past dealt with the same exact thing. And they still managed it. SO don't give me that. It's an excuse and intolerable. This applies to a few people not just Paul. So don't go off on me just blaming Paul. It make you assume to much. And for those who jumped in not paying attention to what I said in Chat today. I quite frankly said, and anyone who knows me will vouche for this. I am NOT biased, nor am I cruel and unjust. No matter whether you are friend or not, veteran or newbie, Op or non Op. The rules are the same period. Period. I treat NO ONE with special concideration based on status in ANYTHING. I never have. On maturity yes, status no.

I recently requested myself banned from sorcery.net and from the boards, because as a person I could not handle what had happened to my home. And I needed a break. After thinking on it some I realized, I hurt myself more by this because now my friends were out of reach, and I had no place to rest. I should not, nor will I again, ever do that to myself. When you care about something, as much as I do about EC it very seriously becomes YOUR community, and the people there your family. As I do concider a lot of the people I've met here for quite some time. This is my home and my family. You can call me screwed in the head I honestly don't care, that is an honest heart felt feeling and I mean it. When it starts to go bad, you get frustrated, you get hurt, and then you get angry. Well now I'm beyond angry, I am pissed.

I don't concider myself above anyone here, nor have I ever even concidered the fact. I hold myself to the same things I've said. Since I have been here, I know of two people total that I have ever gone off on, if ANY of you can even THINK of more you just tell me. There is a reason for this, and I hold it dear.

I take things to heart, and I am very vengeful when they are hurt.

I will never leave EC willingly, none of you will ever have that satisfaction. If I get torn away it's because of life, I broke the rules, or because EC no longer exists. Im here for the long haul people and I am going to make sure you know how I feel from now on. You can count on it.


My LAUNCHCast Station
"Respect the Forest, Fear the Ranger"
I got lost for an hour and became god.
Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 09-30-2001 12:07:00 PM
And this is why I love Fae..
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 09-30-2001 12:09:00 PM
I wondered what that was about in sorcery.net a while back.
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-30-2001 12:09:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Synjari:
And this is why I love Fae..

Why's that? I dozed off halfway through.

Abbikat
Tastes best with pudding
posted 09-30-2001 12:11:00 PM
Well Said Faelynn



Were-Tigress Disciple of Lycanthropy
Perma-lowbie, addicted to MMORPGs
My LiveJournal

Katjya
Kelveron's Kitten
posted 09-30-2001 12:13:00 PM
Hugs Faelynn tightly.

I have no CLUE what happened. I doubt I ever really will, never joining the chat rooms and only having time to read maybe a third of the threads here.

But it sure as heck sounded like you could use one of those, hon. You're definitely one of the people I respect a tremendous amount around here and I'm sorry things have reached a point where you've gotten this angry.

Katjya Sylvertongue
Young Shadowknight and Proud Owner of her own (_|_)
Tarissa Treerunner
Mid-life Crisis Druid of House Avendur
Drysart
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 12:14:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Faelynn LeAndris:
Debates, debates are good. We've always had them. Nothing wrong there. The first time a personal insult is slung however, it's punishable. Period. So start watching what you say very closely because you could be contributing to the issues at hand. Bitching, bitchin in general is not bad. Bitch fights however are death to a community, and un forgivable. I will be very severe on any I catch doing this. Period

Consider this a new rule on the boards as well.

Be civil, be intelligent, and CONTRIBUTE to the community with your posts.... or else. If you have any doubts as to whether what you're about to post is appropriate or not, don't post it.

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-30-2001 12:16:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Drysart:
and CONTRIBUTE to the community with your posts.... or else.

Does my nonsense drivel contribute to the community?

Pvednes
Lynched
posted 09-30-2001 12:22:00 PM
Very, very well said, Fae.
Drysart
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 12:23:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Snoota:
Does my nonsense drivel contribute to the community?

In its own way.

Katjya
Kelveron's Kitten
posted 09-30-2001 12:45:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Snoota:
Does my nonsense drivel contribute to the community?

Bah, just go click your stick, Snoota. Then you'll be happy and won't care.

Katjya Sylvertongue
Young Shadowknight and Proud Owner of her own (_|_)
Tarissa Treerunner
Mid-life Crisis Druid of House Avendur
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 09-30-2001 12:53:00 PM
Fae, well said.

I dont know if I am one of the "popular" people or disliked or what not, but, really, I could care less

I have fun posting here, and consider alot of people friends

Im not an op in the chat rooms or anything like that...but I know if I were Id wanna be like Fae.

Fae, j00 is my hero!

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-30-2001 12:54:00 PM
Katjya doesn't like me and I don't even know why. <sniff!>

[ 09-30-2001: Message edited by: Snoota ]

Solstyce
Vampiric pixie that might eat your face, if you're lucky
posted 09-30-2001 12:56:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Snoota:
Does my nonsense drivel contribute to the community?

It damn well better

Shhh. Everyone will hear us. Everyone will know.
Katjya
Kelveron's Kitten
posted 09-30-2001 01:06:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Snoota:
Katjya doesn't like me and I don't even know why. <sniff!>

Licks Snoota.

Hmm, a little too salty. Anyone got any pepper?

Katjya Sylvertongue
Young Shadowknight and Proud Owner of her own (_|_)
Tarissa Treerunner
Mid-life Crisis Druid of House Avendur
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 09-30-2001 01:08:00 AM
I was serious.

I don't even know you and you act like I'm the anti-Christ. Not that I care to know you.

Katjya
Kelveron's Kitten
posted 09-30-2001 01:10:00 AM

I act like you're the anti-christ? How? If you took my post about your click-stick seriously, then I apologize. It wasn't meant to be so. I sorta thought the "wink" face would have been a better indicator. Next time, I'll make sure to put any type of disclaimer on any posts directed to you, assuming there are any.

Katjya Sylvertongue
Young Shadowknight and Proud Owner of her own (_|_)
Tarissa Treerunner
Mid-life Crisis Druid of House Avendur
Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 09-30-2001 01:12:00 AM
Kat, sweetie. I dont think he is serious either *tickles both of j00 and hugs Fae once more cause he rocks*
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 09-30-2001 05:05:00 AM
Well said Fae!
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 09-30-2001 05:42:00 AM
Well said Fae.
I am unsure what my status here is other than newb.
Hmm, do I contribute to the boards, with whatever it is I have been doing?
(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 09-30-2001 07:13:00 AM
I agree with your main sentiment, though Drysart's paraphrase gets the point across much better, and less offensively.

{edit: cut the critique of your style, since you're so popular, and all.}

[ 09-30-2001: Message edited by: Bloodsage ]

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Murdoc Halfshadow
Was once named Bob
posted 09-30-2001 07:51:00 AM
Wow. I've never seen Faelynn angry before.
I'm scared
RP CHARACTER
Kekvit Irae
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 08:07:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Drysart:
*snip* be intelligent *snip* or else.

Can we ban Delid now, please?

Meridian
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 08:13:00 AM
I'm not here to be popular. I don't care if people never know me. As a newbie (but a lurker of over a year, so I've seen the politics and the BS and the hurt feelings posted for all to see), I'm just here to enjoy the good times.

Because if I want to engage in drama, slander, smears, anger, hatred, etc - hell, I can do that in RL. EverCrest (and EQ, and the internet in general) are my escape from that.

So forget popularity - doesn't matter if you are or you aren't. Carry yourself well, and enjoy yourself without it being at the expense of others.

Nuff said.

**************************
Meridian Ascendant
Lacking a witty sig-phrase since 2001.
Katjya
Kelveron's Kitten
posted 09-30-2001 08:39:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Synjari:
Kat, sweetie. I dont think he is serious either *tickles both of j00 and hugs Fae once more cause he rocks*

:-\ I guess when I see someone type out "I was serious" I take that at face value. In an online community, where tone of voice and facial expression are absent, I look at those words as the online equivalent of a "safety word" one might have in any, uh, kinky stuff. /shrug

Katjya Sylvertongue
Young Shadowknight and Proud Owner of her own (_|_)
Tarissa Treerunner
Mid-life Crisis Druid of House Avendur
Willias
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 08:58:00 AM
Well said Fael.
Sidhra/Sureal
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 09:13:00 AM
I can agree with the sentiment, I really missed some of the people on here.
I'm not gonna name names, but you guys know who you are, cause I kept in touch with you via private msgs.
I was very immature when I first hoped on the boards, I didn't think about the fact that this was actually a seperate place then gu boards which is a little more light hearted.
I am back tho and this time no one is running me off again.
*( Sticks tongue out, and brandishes a rubber chicken)
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 09-30-2001 09:16:00 AM
quote:
:-\ I guess when I see someone type out "I was serious" I take that at face value. In an online community, where tone of voice and facial expression are absent, I look at those words as the online equivalent of a "safety word" one might have in any, uh, kinky stuff. /shrug

Actually, I dont think Snoota knows what "serious" means

Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 09-30-2001 10:13:00 AM
That would amke more sense anyway
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 09-30-2001 10:16:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Faelynn LeAndris:
I will never leave EC willingly, none of you will ever have that satisfaction. If I get torn away it's because of life, I broke the rules, or because EC no longer exists. Im here for the long haul people and I am going to make sure you know how I feel from now on. You can count on it.

Ditto, Fae

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 09-30-2001 10:20:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Mortious Shadowstalker:
Ditto, Fae

Tritto

Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 09-30-2001 10:54:00 AM
Well said.
Moffles
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 11:07:00 AM
Barely skimmng through, I noticed the word popular. That's all.

Must have been a great speech!

"Got some dark desire? Love to play with fire? Why not let it rip? Live a little bit!"
Wachuchuu
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 11:08:00 AM
Well said Faelynn LeAndris

I have allways thought this but never said it outloud, I Love these boards and would stick up for them in the same fashion until the end
**practices his warning hurr(hiss/purr) to warn off the unmentionables**

"Why yes thank you i do tend to ramble on...at least I make sense"

"Happiness is what you make it be happy you are alive and are in good health. I AM"

Elspeth
Pancake
posted 09-30-2001 01:07:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Snoota:
Why's that? I dozed off halfway through.


Sorry to say, I also did...


So you want to start a revolution. Well, you know...
Azeroth™
Want my opinion?
posted 09-30-2001 01:23:00 PM
No idea what he was talking about, and that was after reading it 2 times.

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Dave
)_(
posted 09-30-2001 01:30:00 PM
Good speach fae. I too have seen the ec commuty split off into a few sides/factions as long as you have. You can tell this easly on the chats.

The thing with paul is nothing new, if its not him its someone esle or somethign esle Some people just use anythig to get others pissed off and or to make them selfs look better.

There's a few people that LIVE about doing this, and you know who you are. Drop it allready.

This crap needs to stop, can't we just hang out, joke around, pounce on each other like before? Not hold huge grudges about people and allways fight over little things.

Peach
Good intentions? Or *bad* intentions?
posted 09-30-2001 01:47:00 PM
First and foremost the vitriolic, mean spirited and veiled (and some, non-veiled) jabs at other people, need to stop. This has become fairly common practice around here with people. Yes you have your right to voice your opinion on something… but.

HAS NO ONE EVER WATCHED BAMBI!?!?!?!? If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all. Really. Good words there. This doesn’t mean you have to sugar coat things or lie, or tip toe around issues, but if you find yourself going to post something that you’re fairly certain will result in flames… be a better person and don’t post it.

This doesn't just go for Fae, but for anyone who's been posting threads of this nature lately:

TAKE A BREAK.

Yes, everyone's opinions on things here matter. Every post made here lately on these subjects is an attempt to clear the air and make things better. It's not working and it likely never will.

Text is a matter of perspective. When things are said in an environment like this, it's totally up to the person reading it on how they will perceive what the other person has said.

One day you could think that someone's being a total asshole, the next they are as sweet as candy. But consider for a moment it might not be their behavior that has changed. It's yours.

This community will evolve. It's a public venue of a sort of very bizarre family. New "kids" are being born every day. Sometimes we get a blue butt; sometimes we get a l33t d3wd who couldn't spell their name if they tried.

It will always change. Those of us, who have been here since it began, have also changed. Every new person changes it a little more, but you know what; without that? This place would be awfully boring.

My advice to anyone who is "sick" of things here.. Anyone who is "tired" of the way some people are behaving.. Anyone who is "upset" with the way someone's handling something.

Take a breath. Go read a book.

Walk. Away.

Come back and try to realize that everything you say here no matter how hard you try to make it sound a particular way, can and likely will be taken the wrong way by someone. You can never change that... and sometimes, you will never know it's happened.

Take a breather. Don't point fingers, and don't try to change the world. Change yourself first. That is the only thing we truly have control over.

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 09-30-2001 01:51:00 PM
Sage advice.

Have some baked beans.

Kanid
BANNED
posted 09-30-2001 02:21:00 PM
Thanks Peachis, for this, and what you said in IRC.

Moving on...

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
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