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Gikk
SCA babe!!!
posted 09-20-2001 01:05:00 PM
Well.. Do you love it? Hate it? Never bothered to read it? (you should read it, then ) Waiting desperatly for the movie to come out? Waiting desperately for the next book to come out? Both? I was just wondering. Personally, I like it, want to see the movie, really want to read the new book.

Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 09-20-2001 01:10:00 PM
Ill admit it i liked the books *sobs*
but this is coming from a grown man that laughs his ass off watching dafy duck shoot himself through a tree
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KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 09-20-2001 01:12:00 PM
*liked the Harry Beaver series much more*
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Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 09-20-2001 01:28:00 PM
I love it.

She reminds me a lot of Roald Dahl.


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Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 01:30:00 PM
The Harry Potter book series is AWESOME, I have all the books. I just seem to HATE the fact that they are trying to turn it into the next Pokemon. I say, they should KEEP IT AS A DAMN BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They ruined pokemon the SAME way, making fifty million feature-length films is just kinda CORN! Harry Potter is a great book series, when the movie comes out, people will judge the book by the movie, which fucking sucks! I hate those damn biznitches that only wanna make a profit off stuff like this. Even though I love all of the books, when someone asks me in real life if I like them, I either say no or don't answer. I hate to like popular items. I liked Pokemon, but when it became popular, fuck it. This is the reason why there are barely any good books. The authors don't want their good shit to be worn out.. J.K. Rowling could possibly begin to slack off on the books due to this and the books will begin to suck. I hope this doesn't happen.

Anyway, overall, ON THE BOOKS, I love it. But the only thing I hate is where she tells what happened in the previous books. It't like, "Go fucking buy the others and read them prior to this one, damn it!"

Hmm, I wrote too much.

Maradon!
posted 09-20-2001 01:37:00 PM
Nevermind

If I say what I think, people will probably jump down my throat shouting about how I hate everything for no reason

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Maradon? ]

The Unknown
Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 01:43:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Maradon?:
No, I don't like them.

It's like the fantasy equivalent of R.L. Stine's "Goosebumps" books. Hastily produced, lacking atmosphere and content, and not terribly challenging on an intellectual level.

Granted I've only bothered to read one, but that was plenty for me.


To be honest, I didn't care for them either, but aren't you being a little harsh?

They were intended for children.

Also, they don't seem to be compleated too hastily, unlike R.L Stine who writes 53 books a week, 51 of them having essentially the same plot.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 09-20-2001 01:44:00 PM
They're J fiction, Maradon. They're not going to be intellectually stimulating. Roald Dahl doesn't go for intelluctually stimulating either, but his BFG and the Witches and James and the Giant Peach are some of the most creative and thoughtful J fiction out there.

And you don't know that, Quizamo. James and the Giant Peach and The Witches were great movies. The boy they picked for Harry looks just like him, and he's British, so no fake ass accents. I think it'll turn out to be good.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Maradon!
posted 09-20-2001 02:05:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Stane:
To be honest, I didn't care for them either, but aren't you being a little harsh?

They were intended for children.


I didn't say anything harsh at all, I just elaborated on the statement that they're intended for children.

I don't like anything intended for children. I didn't even like things intended for children when I was a child

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Maradon? ]

The Unknown
Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 02:12:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Maradon?:
I didn't say anything harsh at all, I just elaborated on the statement that they're intended for children.

I don't like anything intended for children. I didn't even like things intended for children when I was a child



Fair enough.

I disliked them for the same reason, though I can't deny they were well written.

Kanid
BANNED
posted 09-20-2001 02:22:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Maradon?:
I didn't even like things intended for children when I was a child

Why does the emphasis (his) on the word was make me laugh?

I've not read them so cannot judge, I haven't had the time to read any of the 50 books I have waiting to be read. I may take the Autumn to see the movie, she is starting to get interested in books and I want to encourage her.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
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Niklas
hay guys whats going on in this title?
posted 09-20-2001 02:24:00 PM
well, I like them anyway

They do keep you going and are a very nice and well written light read... I read Chamber of Secrets (don't like that one as much as the others to be honest) in one night lol

Caela
Crazed Ex-Angel
posted 09-20-2001 02:27:00 PM
quote:

I don't like anything intended for children. I didn't even like things intended for children when I was a child [/

I know what you mean, I feel the same way. They make things for children so... well, stupid.

So don't think of it as something intended for children, just think of them as books to read that might be entertaining. Cause they are, I borrowed the first three from my little sister and read them all in one night.

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. " - the "Professor" - The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress
Elspeth
Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 02:33:00 PM
I don't like them. Don't ask me why not, I just don't. For no reason, I just...don't

So you want to start a revolution. Well, you know...
Kanid
BANNED
posted 09-20-2001 02:35:00 PM
The Hobbit was "inteded for children" and I've read no other book as many times. I still enjoy it and just read it again a few months ago.
"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
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Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 02:41:00 PM
I admit I enjoy them. They are well written, even if they are supposed to be children's books, but they are not my favorite.(Sorry Rowling, I'm hooked on Jordan.) They are mostly good, light fun.(except for certain parts in which it gets a little gory/nasty.)

And Lord of the Rings books r0xx0red

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Gikk
SCA babe!!!
posted 09-20-2001 02:44:00 PM
Actually, there are two versions... the kids version and the adult version. I don't knwo the difference, but I know there are two published forms.

Also, the were talking about having Haley Joel Osment play harry... but they got over that when JK Rowling insitisted on Brit actors, or no movie, and a book accurate movie, or no movie. =P

Wee!

Maradon!
posted 09-20-2001 02:56:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kanid:
The Hobbit was "inteded for children"

Was not!

Even if it were, the idea of "intended for children" was a little different back then. Have you even read old school fairly tales?

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Maradon? ]

Kanid
BANNED
posted 09-20-2001 03:07:00 PM
Tolkien wrote The Hobbit for his children or grandchildren, I forget at this time. (I'm over 30, memory is the second thing to go, I forget what the first thing was...)

The original fairy tales, as recorded mostly by the Brother's Grimm, were intended for adults, and have been edited many many times.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
Maradon!
posted 09-20-2001 03:24:00 PM
They were told to children and you know it!
SunGryphon
Nub nub nu...THWACK!
posted 09-20-2001 03:55:00 PM
Hehe.. I'm reading the series right now for the second or third time... I'm almost done with Prisoner. I love the books... Of course, I go back and reread all kinds of J books

Edit after Maradon's post: The Brothers Grimm fairy tales were NOT children's stories by any means.. they've been softened over the years, and most people accept that the Disney versions are how they started, but it's not true... Go read their version of Sleeping Beauty sometime..

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Kilauea ]

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Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 04:14:00 PM
I'd post on this thread, but if I agree with Maradon one more time I'll be banned for beeing a fake account .
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Kanid
BANNED
posted 09-20-2001 04:26:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Modrakien:
I'd post on this thread, but if I agree with Maradon one more time I'll be banned for beeing a fake account .

LOL.

The original fairy tales were full of sex and sexual situations. They've been cleaned up for younger audiences because adults are too jaded to enjoy them anymore. Kinda like TMNT...

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 09-20-2001 04:26:00 PM
I have one of those books around here somewhere, will read it one day.

Reading The Essential Ellison right now though.

Also reading far to many books about JavaScript and Flash. *twitch*

Katjya
Kelveron's Kitten
posted 09-20-2001 04:59:00 PM
I enjoyed the books a lot. But then, I've always been able to enjoy a book as long as it was well-written and had a good plot. I never cared if it was intended for an adult or a child. Which probably explains why I took Watership Down and For Whom the Bell Tolls to sleep-away camp the summer after 5th grade.

I plan to see the movie, but if I don't get to see it until it's out on video, I won't be heartbroken about it. But I am eagerly awaiting the next book.

[ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Katjya ]

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posted 09-20-2001 05:16:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kanid:
Tolkien wrote The Hobbit for his children or grandchildren, I forget at this time. (I'm over 30, memory is the second thing to go, I forget what the first thing was...)


Actually, he just wrote it. (Not for anyone in paticular, that is. ) He plopped down into his chair one day, took a blank leaflet, and wrote, "In a hole in the ground, there lived a hobbit."

That's how it started.

I could be wrong, so hit me if I am.

i shoueld joeg threw the foreast moer offeand!!11
Kanid
BANNED
posted 09-20-2001 05:24:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Katjya:
I enjoyed the books a lot. But then, I've always been able to enjoy a book as long as it was well-written and had a good plot. I never cared if it was intended for an adult or a child. Which probably explains why I took Watership Down and For Whom the Bell Tolls to sleep-away camp the summer after 5th grade.

Hemingway rules, and Watership Down is one of my favorite books of all time.

Blame Maradon for the smiley.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
Delphi Aegis
Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 06:05:00 PM
Bah.. If ya want real good fiction, read Asimov's Foundation, and the books set in the same universe. They're all well written, and very in depth reads.

Of course, you have to realize that Asimov was thinking of and writing all these things in the 50s-80s, so...

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posted 09-20-2001 06:09:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Delphi:
Bah.. If ya want real good fiction, read Asimov's Foundation, and the books set in the same universe. They're all well written, and very in depth reads.

Of course, you have to realize that Asimov was thinking of and writing all these things in the 50s-80s, so...


I loved the Foundation series, I recommend it to.. Everyone.

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Kanid
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posted 09-20-2001 06:22:00 PM
Asimov always bored me, he'd get so technical that you'd lose the story. For definative Sci Fi, Heinlen, period.
"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 09-20-2001 06:53:00 PM
for sci-figot to frank herbert

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Caela
Crazed Ex-Angel
posted 09-20-2001 06:58:00 PM
why is Frank Herbert familiar - what did he write?

(I read so much, sometimes they all blend together.)

Heinlein rules - Strange in a Strange Land and Friday are two of my favorites.

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. " - the "Professor" - The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress
Kanid
BANNED
posted 09-20-2001 07:01:00 PM
Frank Herbert : Dune

Great series, unique in many ways, but not definative Sci-Fi to me.

Unedited Stranger in Strange Land rules all.

"Unlike adults, children have little need to deceive themselves." - Goethe
Happiness is subjective, subject yourself to it whenever possible.
"A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams." - John Barrymore
Wise men still seek Him.
The Unknown
Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 07:01:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kalah:
why is Frank Herbert familiar - what did he write?

(I read so much, sometimes they all blend together.)

Heinlein rules - Strange in a Strange Land and Friday are two of my favorites.


The Dune series. I just picked the first one up but havent had a chance to read it yet.

Caela
Crazed Ex-Angel
posted 09-20-2001 07:06:00 PM
Doh! of course, I should have just looked beside the computer to the crumbling much read tape covered book sitting on top of the case.

I think memory loss starts at twenty.

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. " - the "Professor" - The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress
Peter
Pancake
posted 09-20-2001 07:18:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kanid:
Frank Herbert : Dune

Great series, unique in many ways, but not definative Sci-Fi to me.

Unedited Stranger in Strange Land rules all.


I rember reading that Heinlein Never was happy/like Stranger in a Strange Land much, nor was he With starship Trooper- Both his most widely read works. ( I think I rember reading this in one of those collection of stories and writeing he put together and edited)
Though if your a reallly big Heinlein fan, Go out and Find Number of the Beast.

Reyolen
Wanders too much for a custom title
posted 09-20-2001 07:32:00 PM
I've read the first 3, and i liked them. Well written, but still suitable for kids. I think the movie will be good, but i hope they don't make any more...
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 09-20-2001 07:48:00 PM
The original fairy tales were folk tales passed around among people.

They were cleaned up slightly and aimed more toward children to teach them lessons in being good.

Take Beauty and the Beast. That's not a story about beauty being only skin deep. It was a story for girls to read and realize that Beauty was rewarded because she was good and obedient.

That was the sort of thing fairy tales were meant to accomplish. Now they just entertain. Not really complaining, though, because ideas like those are pretty out of date.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Solstyce
Vampiric pixie that might eat your face, if you're lucky
posted 09-20-2001 09:13:00 PM
Nope. I don't like 'em.

I'e just been overexposed to the good stuff. I don't care if it's meant for kids. I've been told many, many times that adults can get into it too, and... I never did. It's not even a good children's book. No adventure, no sense of danger, no nothing. Just... it.

I'm comparing this to the other children's story I know that immediately pops into mind that's been praised like this. The Neverending Story. Again, maybe I've been overexposed to the good stuff, but side my side Harry Potter falls so short it looks like a dwarf earthworm. I STILL pore through The Neverending Story now, poking and reading and checking and romping along. I never got to romp with Harry Potter. Just sort of meander, getting bored and asking "Are we there yet?" alot. Again, there's no sense of danger, no sense of adventure, even when the stuff that's supposed to be exciting is going on.

And if you look at the Disneyfief fairy tales, yeah, it's getting pathetic nowadays. What should be read to kids more often is old myths and stories, Greek, Celtic, stuff like that...

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Ferret
Poing! Poing!
posted 09-20-2001 09:19:00 PM
Roald Dahl>Harry Potter
Hand Down.
Also, the Discworld series and the Xanth Books also roxor harry potter.
Not saying the Harry Potter books aren't good, just that the other ones are better.
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