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Topic: Puppy advice
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-17-2005 07:16:08 AM
So my parents said they'd get me a puppy for Christmas.

For the past few weeks, I've been keeping in touch with a Pembroke Welsh Corgi breeder (the puppy I wanted) and eagerly awaiting a recent batch of puppies. After several weeks of uncertainty, the breeder said she'd have a puppy for me.

I was elated until I found out they were 900 fat greenbacks.

Since my parents are buying, they (in more polite terms) said ;No f'ing way.; So now I'm back to square one.

The problem is, I've since become fascinated with these ugly little creatures known as pugs.

So I turn to thee, my fellow EverCresters, to give me your professional advice and aesthetic opinions.

If anyone knows, I'd like to hear about health concerns (specifically, do either one of them do poorly in hot or cold climates), training difficulties, and day-to-day living.

Please inform me. I even put up a poll for those too lazy to help on their own, including a few gag options. Hilarity!

Thank you in advance,
-Mr. Parcelan

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-17-2005 07:18:29 AM
For the record, these were the puppies I was intending on getting:

nem-x
posted 01-17-2005 07:35:42 AM
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-17-2005 07:38:53 AM
Cannot stand pugs... ugly smelly things...
`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 01-17-2005 07:53:08 AM
I don't know much about corgis other than them being cute, fuzzy, and rare.

Pugs make good pets, but they're very high maintenance. All those wrinkles can trap debris and infection. They're also prone to breathing problems.

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Maradon!
posted 01-17-2005 08:24:04 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Trillee wrote:
Cannot stand pugs... ugly smelly things...

For being all "wicca" you're not real big on the non-cute aspects of nature, are you?

Anyway it's weird that Welsh Corgis cost so much. Just wait a few years and the price will drop to two woolong.

Maradon!
posted 01-17-2005 08:25:46 AM
Incidentally, dog breeders are for rich people. Check an animal shelter and get a free one (well mostly free).
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-17-2005 08:38:13 AM
For the record, this is not the usual price for corgis. Most of them run 500 bucks or so, which is about what we paid for Gus and Ajax (my doberman).

These are particularly expensive because their mother was a show-dog champion that was flown out to New York to be artificially inseminated by another corgi champion, and then flown to Michigan to be raised properly.

This mother's pregnancy was so valuable, her owner bought a seat for her on the plane so she could sit in the less-turbulent cabin.

So, if puppies were MMOG characters, these would be level 65 Necros with Doomscythes and belonging to local uberguilds...or something.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 01-17-2005 08:46:01 AM
My father's side of the immediate family has a Welsh Corgi, and she's a very affectionate dog. She was also very rambunctious as a pup, though. She did all right in Vegas weather, and she's about seven years old now. I don't know all the details about her health, but she's still very affectionate and even tries to hop up like a puppy still and play, in spite of her age.

As for a pug... well, the only pug I have experience with is that one from Men in Black. If you want a smartass alien, get a pug.

Mooj fucked around with this message on 01-17-2005 at 08:46 AM.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-17-2005 09:05:25 AM
Alien dog > Welsh overachiever
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 01-17-2005 09:06:32 AM
English Bulldog
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Ares
posted 01-17-2005 11:03:04 AM
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 01-17-2005 11:12:53 AM
Any dog with a short snout is usually bound to have health problems. English Bulldogs, for example, are prone to heart attacks because they can't breathe properly. Pekingese eyes are incredibly easy to damage, because they bug out so much. The Pugs do have the advantage of being an incredibly old breed, so most congenital defects should be ironed out. I would, however, err on the side of caution and check with a Pug breeder.
That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Maradon!
posted 01-17-2005 11:18:32 AM
quote:
Karnaj wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I would, however, err on the side of caution and check with a Pug breeder.

Or just take a regular dog and punch it in the face real hard. Pow!

Mutts generally have way fewer health problems than purebreeds anyway.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 01-17-2005 12:17:58 PM
quote:
JooJooFlop wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
English Bulldog

They kick ass.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 01-17-2005 12:25:22 PM
I very nearly got a Pembroke Welsh Corgi a couple years ago when I acquired my dog. They're very cute and fuzzy and stuff, but they are extremely prone to biting and chewing as a puppy, and they do tend to act like a puppy for a good deal of their life. (this can be good or bad depending on your viewpoint) I don't know anything about Pugs.
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 01-17-2005 12:41:33 PM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Cuba:
Or just take a regular dog and punch it in the face real hard. Pow!

Mutts generally have way fewer health problems than purebreeds anyway.


Yep, if you want the most healthy dog possible, get a mutt.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Jet
Pancake
posted 01-17-2005 01:13:51 PM
Best way to go... http://www.azhumane.org/about/adoption/index.shtml
Lazzay
omg mack attack :(
posted 01-17-2005 01:50:43 PM
My brother got a pug recently and it's the cutest gosh darn thing ever. They seem to have a really sweet temperament, and they're lots of fun.
one two three fo let me see that tootsie roll
Ares
posted 01-17-2005 02:01:32 PM
Am I the only one that thinks that pugs are kindof.. Ugly?

I don't really like the looks of short muzzled dogs/cats.

Demos
Pancake
posted 01-17-2005 02:01:43 PM
quote:
Ares obviously shouldn't have said:
adopt a mutt from a shelter and give a good home.

Damn straight. Its inexpensive, and the animals are very grateful. Our pound puppy is a mutt, is 14, and still in good health. The most gosh-darn affectionate animal EVAR.

"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Ares
posted 01-17-2005 02:02:58 PM
quote:
Demos had this to say about Duck Tales:
Damn straight. Its inexpensive, and the animals are very grateful. Our pound puppy is a mutt, is 14, and still in good health. The most gosh-darn affectionate animal EVAR.

Mine's a mutt, but we didn't get it from the pound because they didn't have puppies at the time,a nd my mom wanted to replace our puppy that had just died at 10 weeks.

He's 14 too.

Demos
Pancake
posted 01-17-2005 02:08:01 PM
Mine has 3 legs. We nickname her Tripod.
"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Maradon!
posted 01-17-2005 02:36:18 PM
quote:
How.... Demos.... uughhhhhh:
Our pound puppy is a mutt

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 01-17-2005 02:47:26 PM
quote:
Maradon! impressed everyone with:
For being all "wicca" you're not real big on the non-cute aspects of nature, are you?

Anyway it's weird that Welsh Corgis cost so much. Just wait a few years and the price will drop to two woolong.


I'm not sure why the hell my religious beliefs, even though I'm not wiccan, has to do with it. Or why you have to insult me period.

He wanted an opinon, he got mine. I've never met a pug I liked. If not taken care of properly they stink, alot... and the smell is a bitch to get out. Even if taken care of they have an oder that makes me gag.

Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 01-17-2005 02:48:41 PM
Ein, you're a cow woof-woof!
[b].sig removed by Mr. Parcelan[/b]
Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 01-17-2005 05:02:04 PM
quote:
Ares had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Am I the only one that thinks that pugs are kindof.. Ugly?

Only in the way that they are so ugly, they're cute!

Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 01-17-2005 05:15:33 PM
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Gravity'sAngel
Pancake
posted 01-17-2005 05:36:28 PM
I'm probably biased by my corgi ownership, but I detest pugs with a passion. Snippy little yappers that can be extremely hyper and annoying.

My three corgis are calm, loveable, and definitely NOT hyper. I agree with the person who said they are chewers when young. That's very true, but if you crate train them and give them goodies to chew while in the crate, it's easily contained. Corgis ARE, however, big shedders. Don't get one if you have any fear of hair all over everything.

That being said, I totally agree with the shelter or rescue options. I got my corgis because I was going to show them (and did for a short time, until I found out about the politics behind the show judging system and decided I didn't need that kind of BS), but if you just want a great pup and loveable pet, a shelter dog will be your best friend - and you can feel good for having saved another animal from the needle.

Still refusing to play WoW.
Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 01-17-2005 05:40:29 PM
quote:
Gravity'sAngel said this about your mom:
I agree with the person who said they are chewers when young.

Noxhil2 fucked around with this message on 01-17-2005 at 05:40 PM.

Mike the Butcher
Pancake
posted 01-17-2005 08:17:59 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Mr. Parcelan:
For the record, these were the puppies I was intending on getting:



Reminds me of Ein from Cowboy Bebop

Hostile Makeover
Evil as chocolate covered thistles
posted 01-17-2005 08:28:23 PM
`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 01-17-2005 08:52:27 PM
quote:
When they turned on the Infinite Improbability Drive, Mike the Butcher stammered,
Reminds me of Ein from Cowboy Bebop
Someone completely missed Maradon's comment about two woolong.
Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

Maradon!
posted 01-17-2005 10:33:02 PM
quote:
Mike the Butcher probably says this to all the girls:
Reminds me of Ein from Cowboy Bebop

You don't say!

That's weird, why would a welsh corgi resemble a drawing of a welsh corgi!

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 01-17-2005 at 10:34 PM.

leckzilla!
Squeak!
posted 01-18-2005 09:49:14 AM
Pugs are awesome. My friend has one that tries to outrun my greyhound. It's hilarious.
Timpofee
Mancake
posted 01-18-2005 09:51:32 AM
I found a champion breeder for corgis here in texas asking 500 each if thats more in your price range. I have the site and junk here at work..
Ill PM it to you if you want

CORGI > most

ps She just had her last litter Dec 31st She seems to be a nice breeder also.. she is who i want to buy my lil puppy from

Timpofee fucked around with this message on 01-18-2005 at 09:52 AM.

Nae
Fun with Chocolate
posted 01-18-2005 12:06:28 PM
I grew up with English Bulldogs, and I think they are some of the sweetest and most intelligent dogs around.

My friend just recently got a pug puppy and Phoebe is so totally precious. She was so teeny when they got her, and super loving. I think they are like Bulldogs, so ugly they are cute. There is something about those bulgy eyes that draw you in and want to cuddle them up.

This coming from a cat-person.

I generally don't care much for dogs. I like them as much as I like all animals, but I prefer cats anyday.

Those Corgi's look really cute too. They probably won't be as high maintanence as a pug would be. I imagine pugs take the same amount of care as our Bulldogs did. In fact, Phoebe has to have surgery on her nasal passage in order to open her airways. Our bulldog was on steroids because of allergies.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-18-2005 01:15:58 PM
Pugs are awesome. Just buy from a reputable breeder who is a member of their respective AKA-sanctioned breed club.
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 01-18-2005 01:34:51 PM
Y.O.T.C
No longer a Towel Girl
posted 01-18-2005 01:51:01 PM
Buy a great pyrenees, they fucking rock.
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