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Topic: Puppy advice
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 01-18-2005 02:37:46 PM
I recommend a Sheltie or Keeshond, but those are bigger small dogs.
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Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 01-18-2005 02:44:44 PM
Also, yappy little biting little buggers are conditioned like that usually. I have a Chihuahua that we socialized with other dogs and LOTS of people. She didn't get the chance to become attached to any one person or family because she got out and met people.

When we take Yoda out for walks she wants to greet everyone. She's protective of the house and barks when someone comes in but greets them with kisses and wags when she knows it's a friend.

She's also litter trained. Her and the cat use the same box, no questions no issues, no mistakes.

A friend of mine has had Pugs his entire life. Pugs have a reputation for having a WONDERFUL disposition, especially with children. They are loving, smart and comical.

Here's the AKC website.

And the AKC standards for the Pug.

www.pugs.org is the Pug Breeder club

Kaglaaz How'ler fucked around with this message on 01-18-2005 at 02:47 PM.

http://www.bloodfin.net
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-18-2005 11:42:12 PM
ATTN: LOSERS

I live in a tiny one-bedroom apartment. I can't have a big dog.

Besides, I like little puppies.

Anyways, the pug movement is gaining strength. The only concern I have is whether he'd do well up here (very cold in the winter) or down in my hometown (very hot in the summer). I'm worried that he'll croak

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 01-19-2005 12:10:21 AM
Trick your parents into buying you that prairie dog you wanted.
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Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 01-19-2005 12:12:42 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Mr. Parcelan:
ATTN: LOSERS

I live in a tiny one-bedroom apartment. I can't have a big dog.

Besides, I like little puppies.

Anyways, the pug movement is gaining strength. The only concern I have is whether he'd do well up here (very cold in the winter) or down in my hometown (very hot in the summer). I'm worried that he'll croak


I think as long as you don't plan to leave the pug outside for long periods of time he'll be okay, as per this excerpt from pugs.org:

quote:
With their short, pushed in face, Pugs can have trouble breathing, especially if there is high heat and humidity. They must be kept cool and exercised with caution in the summer. Part of the short-faced or brachycephalic syndrome can involve having pinched nostrils and an elongated soft palate. Your vet will need to examine your Pug to see if the nostrils are too tight to let air flow freely. There is a surgery to correct this problem. If you notice your Pug snoring excessively or gasping to breathe, it could be that his soft palate (at the back of his mouth) is too long and is in the way. Again, there is a surgery to help correct this problem. While overheating is the biggest weather-related problem, Pugs should also not be exposed for very cold temperatures for long periods of time. They were bred to be housedogs and companions.
Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 01-19-2005 12:21:50 AM
Did you forsake Gus once he stopped being a puppy, Parce?

You psychotic rat bastard.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-19-2005 01:18:45 AM
quote:
Densetsu had this to say about (_|_):
Did you forsake Gus once he stopped being a puppy, Parce?

You psychotic rat bastard.


X <-----------> Q

X = Where I am

Q = Where Gus is

<-> = A few hundred miles

Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 01-19-2005 06:35:48 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Pugs are awesome. Just buy from a reputable breeder who is a member of their respective AKA-sanctioned breed club.

Does this make a dog "better" though? My dog is not registered through the AKC (mainly because they don't consider white schnauzers to be schnauzers) and he is one of the most lovable, even tempered dogs I have ever seen. I was also under the impression that "mutts" are healthier because of the greater dispersion of genes. So... does AKA really mean anything?

Alaan
posted 01-20-2005 01:26:29 AM
quote:
Noxhil2 wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Does this make a dog "better" though? My dog is not registered through the AKC (mainly because they don't consider white schnauzers to be schnauzers) and he is one of the most lovable, even tempered dogs I have ever seen. I was also under the impression that "mutts" are healthier because of the greater dispersion of genes. So... does AKA really mean anything?

If you are going to be putting out bucks for a pure breed, it is nice having the assurance of a good history in the dog's family.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-20-2005 04:58:55 AM
Oh man, oh man. There are no corgi ads in the paper, but there are four black pugs (like the one in my sigpic).

Bloodsage, would you elaborate on why pugs rock?

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-20-2005 05:27:32 AM
I've also sent out two more emails to two more Arizona corgi breeders.

With any luck, this may happen. Wish me well, and pray if it strikes you.

nem-x
posted 01-20-2005 05:59:57 AM
YOU BETTER GET A RED AND WHITE CORGI
Aaron (the good one)
posted 01-20-2005 06:24:18 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when nem-x wrote:
YOU BETTER GET A RED AND WHITE CORGI

A Canadian Corgi?

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Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 01-20-2005 10:24:38 AM
If you go purebred, there's a higher chance that the dog will be inbred. That is actually why a lot of pure breeds have health problems.
"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 01-20-2005 10:36:04 AM
quote:
nem-x spewed forth this undeniable truth:
YOU BETTER GET A RED AND WHITE CORGI

Its Sable, not red.

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Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 01-20-2005 11:05:20 AM
quote:
Vorbis had this to say about pies:

That has to be the greatest expression I've ever seen on a dog.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Kaglaaz How'ler
Pancake
posted 01-20-2005 11:40:17 AM
quote:
How.... Zephyer Kyuukaze.... uughhhhhh:
That has to be the greatest expression I've ever seen on a dog.

That's part of the reason Pugs are so much fun. It's like a little person in a fuzzy coat

http://www.bloodfin.net
Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 01-20-2005 02:18:49 PM
quote:
Azakias probably says this to all the girls:
If you go purebred, there's a higher chance that the dog will be inbred. That is actually why a lot of pure breeds have health problems.

And if you choose a reputable and responsible breeder you are much less likely to have the above problems.

Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-20-2005 02:32:14 PM
quote:
Noxhil2 enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Does this make a dog "better" though? My dog is not registered through the AKC (mainly because they don't consider white schnauzers to be schnauzers) and he is one of the most lovable, even tempered dogs I have ever seen. I was also under the impression that "mutts" are healthier because of the greater dispersion of genes. So... does AKA really mean anything?

Yes, it does make the dog better if it comes from a reputable breeder. Further, it's pretty much a myth that mutts are healthier than pure-bred dogs.

What you get with a pure-bred is some idea what it will look like, act like, and any problems with the breed. What you get with a mutt is a total unknown in terms of health and personality.

There are plenty of lovable, perfect pets that won't meet the strict conformation standards (and will hence be cheaper), but you get the bennies associated with a breeder who cares about the breed and who will interview you as strictly as you interview him or her.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-20-2005 02:39:27 PM
quote:
Azakias Model 2000 was programmed to say:
If you go purebred, there's a higher chance that the dog will be inbred. That is actually why a lot of pure breeds have health problems.

Actually, nothing in either of those sentences is true.

A reputable breeder takes a lot of care to avoid harmful inbreeding, and it's all documented and carefully managed. As for the health thing, a mutt is just as likely to end up sporting the genetic defects of all its various lines as it is to be completely healthy. Again, a good breeder will test his animals for any of the common genetic problems of the breed, and certify the health of the animals.

And any good breeder is also willing to take the dog back for any reason during its life if you find yourself unable to care for it.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 01-20-2005 02:40:48 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Mr. Parcelan:
Oh man, oh man. There are no corgi ads in the paper, but there are four black pugs (like the one in my sigpic).

Bloodsage, would you elaborate on why pugs rock?


Because they're like miniature little Mastiffs, with an attitude to match. And they're cute as buttons.

If I ever got a small dog, it would be a Pug or an English Bulldog.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Noxhil2
Pancake
posted 01-20-2005 02:49:13 PM
quote:
How.... Bloodsage.... uughhhhhh:
Yes, it does make the dog better if it comes from a reputable breeder. Further, it's pretty much a myth that mutts are healthier than pure-bred dogs.

So the more varied gene-pool... gives it just as many health problems? Why are dogs not strengthened by a diversified gene poor, unlike other animals, or is this a huge myth about cross-breeding and such?

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 01-20-2005 03:02:09 PM
quote:
Noxhil2 was naked while typing this:
So the more varied gene-pool... gives it just as many health problems? Why are dogs not strengthened by a diversified gene poor, unlike other animals, or is this a huge myth about cross-breeding and such?

Every dog breed has its genetic defects that can occur to animals of that breed. When you have a mutt who's breeding you can't control or is pulling traits from multiple breeds, you're playing Russian Roulette with if that dog is gonna have one of those defects. The more breeds a mutt is composed of, the bigger the pool of defects that are possible for it to have. A responsible breeder will know the defects of his/her breed and breed his animals to have those defects as recessive instead of dominant.

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Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
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Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 01-20-2005 03:11:01 PM
I vote against anything Michigan related.
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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 01-20-2005 04:13:10 PM
My Brother-in-law's parents have two pugs. The female is very quiet and begs at the table for food. The male will bark at you until he feels you've given him a sufficient amount of attention.

Both of them will sleep on their back, with their paws sticking up in the air, and snore. And I cannot help but laugh at it. Pugs snoring is hilarity that cannot be explained.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-20-2005 06:11:32 PM
quote:
Bloodsage had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Because they're like miniature little Mastiffs, with an attitude to match. And they're cute as buttons.

If I ever got a small dog, it would be a Pug or an English Bulldog.


How is your puppy, anyways?

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-21-2005 05:30:40 AM
Holy crap, guys. There's an ad in the paper as of today about corgi puppies. Keep your fingers crossed and pray for success.
Blackened
posted 01-21-2005 06:19:09 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan's fortune cookie read:
Holy crap, guys. There's an ad in the paper as of today about corgi puppies. Keep your fingers crossed and pray for success.
Do it.

My corgi:


Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Demos
Pancake
posted 01-21-2005 06:20:49 AM
Aww, who can say no to that face? Except for Mortious. He's a cold-hearted bitch.
"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-21-2005 12:47:04 PM
SOLD! as of this morning: 1 Red Male Pembroke Welsh Corgi.
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 01-21-2005 01:00:35 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan Model 2000 was programmed to say:
SOLD! as of this morning: 1 Red Male Pembroke Welsh Corgi.

Omg, yay for Parce!

What ya gonna name him? ^.^

All this talk of a new puppy has got me wanting a new one...being hunting for a Corgi breeder round here though did see an ad for some Australian Shepards in paper today..

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-21-2005 01:03:54 PM
I haven't picked him up yet (doing so later tonight) but his breeder sent me some pictures. As you can tell by the picture titles, I'm naming him Charlie (not Ein or Kobayashi, thx u nem).

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 01-21-2005 01:07:11 PM
That puppy behind the corgi is ugly. Looks like a cross between a chihuahua and an emaciated cow.
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Alaan
posted 01-21-2005 01:28:17 PM
Charlie is insufferably cute.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-21-2005 01:33:08 PM
quote:
Katrinity has the right stuff
being hunting for a Corgi breeder round here though did see an ad for some Australian Shepards in paper today..

I hunted for months, sending out messages to breeders, etc. Eventually, I wound up getting the classifieds online and camping them.

btw, this is for JooJoo:

`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 01-21-2005 01:35:03 PM
Very cute puppy, Parce. He has a bit of a fox look to him, so be careful he doesn't hunt down your family and friends
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Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 01-21-2005 01:35:26 PM
How much you gonna get Charlie for? I've found a few in the area..but their prices are looking like $300-$600 dollars per pup.
Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-21-2005 01:41:43 PM
quote:
Katrinity impressed everyone with:
How much you gonna get Charlie for? I've found a few in the area..but their prices are looking like $300-$600 dollars per pup.

$450, which is a bargain, considering he's AKC. If you can swing $300, go for it and hard, since that's as good as they'll ever get.

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 01-21-2005 01:46:53 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan said this about your mom:
$450, which is a bargain, considering he's AKC. If you can swing $300, go for it and hard, since that's as good as they'll ever get.

Expensive cute little buggers!

I'm glad we got our Shetland Sheepdog (Sheltie) free from a cousin of my dad who was closing down her AKC breeding kennel. They run 500+ dollar too.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-21-2005 01:48:56 PM
quote:
Katrinity had this to say about dark elf butts:
Expensive cute little buggers!

I'm glad we got our Shetland Sheepdog (Sheltie) free from a cousin of my dad who was closing down her AKC breeding kennel. They run 500+ dollar too.


Gus and Ajax were both $400, I'm told. They're both descended from showdogs, so it's a good deal.

Depending on the quality of the dog, corgis range from (this information derived from my conversations with breeders) $300/400 (Disqualified from show or pet quality) to $900 (bred from nobility).

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