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Topic: Sins of a Solar Empire
Maradon!
posted 02-07-2008 09:08:26 PM
Is this game awesome? c/d
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-07-2008 09:13:10 PM
There are NO publishers for ANY of Europe for this game.

How very sloppy of them.

Maradon!
posted 02-07-2008 09:16:39 PM
You can buy it direct download!
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-07-2008 09:19:35 PM
I always get hard copies. No, I have a better idea as a reward for their sloppiness.

I'll "buy" the BitTorrent version.

Ozimander
$$$$$$$$$$$
posted 02-07-2008 09:24:15 PM
You've taught THEM a lesson in Industry, by Jove!
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 02-07-2008 09:25:25 PM
quote:
Mortious probably says this to all the girls:
I always get hard copies. No, I have a better idea as a reward for their sloppiness.

I'll "buy" the BitTorrent version.


Out of curiosity, why?

I understand the last-century need for a physical representation of your game you can always just pop into the drive and blast off with, but with the success of publishing platforms like Steam, and to a lesser extent the Xbox Live service, is it a matter of faith, or something more?

Greenlit
posted 02-07-2008 09:26:09 PM
I'm hesitant to touch this one.
Maradon!
posted 02-07-2008 09:45:40 PM
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS FUCKING GAME PLEASE
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-07-2008 09:48:03 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis said:
Out of curiosity, why?

I understand the last-century need for a physical representation of your game you can always just pop into the drive and blast off with, but with the success of publishing platforms like Steam, and to a lesser extent the Xbox Live service, is it a matter of faith, or something more?


Because I might want to play it like 5 months or so after completing it, like I do with most 4X empire building games. In that case I don't want to have to sit twiddling my thumbs for an hour before I can play the fucker.

I've also had bad experiences with any direct download that's not Steam.

Maradon!
posted 02-07-2008 10:17:47 PM
Ah, no single player campaign, no designing your own ships or races, and a set tech tree that allows only a limited amount of customization to your units.

I'LL PASS THANKS.

Talonus
Loner
posted 02-07-2008 10:27:54 PM
quote:
Mortious had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
I always get hard copies. No, I have a better idea as a reward for their sloppiness.

They're an indie developer who's been screwed over by developers pretty badly in the past. Stardock is pretty much second to Steam in terms of online publishing. And just so you know, the title isn't being published in Europe because no publisher will publish it.

quote:
RPS: Firstly, being Europeans, a little selfish note. While it’s in the shops in the US, and available via Stardock online, we can’t help but notice it’s not actually on the schedule to hit in the UK and Europe. What’s happening there? I heard no-one’s picked it up? What on earth are publishers thinking?

Brad: For the past year we’ve been trying to get major European distributors or publishers to pick up the game to no avail. In case after case we were told that Europeans just don’t like “futuristic” games like this.

Blair: I have no idea and I find it hard to believe. We have an incredible number of people from various European countries already involved and Germany alone has more Sins fan sites than the rest of the world put together…


So don't blame the developers here. By pirating it you're only furthering the publisher's point.

Talonus fucked around with this message on 02-07-2008 at 10:29 PM.

Maradon!
posted 02-07-2008 10:36:19 PM
Aren't stardock the guys who told the excessively virulent DRM company Starforce to stuff it up their ass and suffered immensely in the publishing community as a result?
Maradon!
posted 02-07-2008 10:39:14 PM
quote:
In case after case we were told that Europeans just don’t like “futuristic” games like this.

Cause Dr Who just fell flat in europe am I rite

ALSO RED DWARF HOLY CHRIST

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 02-07-2008 at 10:39 PM.

Talonus
Loner
posted 02-07-2008 10:45:03 PM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Duck Tales:
Aren't stardock the guys who told the excessively virulent DRM company Starforce to stuff it up their ass and suffered immensely in the publishing community as a result?

They had been sort screwed by publishers in the past and decided to self-publish GalCiv2 with no copy protection. Some random poster mentioned on the Starforce boards and Starforce responded by posting a torrent link to GalCiv2 on the on the forums. They were basically trying to brag and say "look what happens to people who don't use copy protection!".

Starforce suffered a ton of backlash, both from the community and developers, and lost a couple of big contracts IIRC. On the other hand, GalCiv2 sold very well for an indie game and Stardock is doing pretty well for itself since deciding to self-publish.

Talonus fucked around with this message on 02-07-2008 at 10:46 PM.

Alaan
posted 02-08-2008 02:34:53 AM
Don't expect this to actually be a 4x. It's an RTS in space with 4x elements.
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 02-08-2008 06:53:40 AM
The lack of any single player campaign = instant turn-off
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 02-08-2008 06:55:56 AM
quote:
Maradon! was listening to Cher while typing:
Cause Dr Who just fell flat in europe am I rite

ALSO RED DWARF HOLY CHRIST


Those aren´t really popular, or even known outside of the UK, you know.

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Maradon!
posted 02-08-2008 07:11:15 AM
quote:
Tarquinning:
Those aren´t really popular, or even known outside of the UK, you know.

Yes they are. I'm outside the UK and I know them.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 02-08-2008 08:15:49 AM
So a single US-nerd is representative for Europe... how again?
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Steven Steve
posted 02-08-2008 08:17:10 AM
quote:
Ozimander attempted to be funny by writing:
You've taught THEM a lesson in Industry, by Jove!

I let forth a hearty, crumb-spraying laughter at this

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Steven Steve
posted 02-08-2008 08:19:24 AM
quote:
Tarquinn had this to say about Knight Rider:
So a single US-nerd is representative for Europe... how again?

Everyone knows who Dr. Who is you spastic, ha ha.

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 02-08-2008 08:26:44 AM
Yeah, right.
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-08-2008 09:33:47 AM
quote:
Tarquinn said:
The lack of any single player campaign = instant turn-off

Space Empires V and Sword of the Stars both had no single player campaign whatsoever.

They were still addictive and fun as hell.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 02-08-2008 10:38:25 AM
quote:
There was much rejoicing when Stalwart Steve said this:
Everyone knows who Dr. Who is you spastic, ha ha.

i thought spastic was an adjective

spas or spaz or something. my mom used to call me that because i was a hyper kid

Tier
posted 02-08-2008 02:35:18 PM
quote:
Mortious's account was hax0red to write:
Space Empires V and Sword of the Stars both had no single player campaign whatsoever.

Nor does Civilization IV.

Maradon!
posted 02-08-2008 05:02:27 PM
quote:
Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Mortious who doth quote:
Space Empires V and Sword of the Stars both had no single player campaign whatsoever.

They were still addictive and fun as hell.


Were they RTS's though?

Since this is apparently only a wannabe 4x I can only imagine that individual skirmishes would be pretty short and the actual amount of development possible pretty limited, making skirmishes pretty pointless.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-08-2008 05:27:13 PM
quote:
Maradon! said:
Were they RTS's though?

Nope, both were fully-fledged 4X games.

Limited graphically but fun as all hell. Especially Space Empires V, which is awesome considering the entire development team for the Space Empires franchise is one guy.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-12-2008 11:13:51 AM
I've played it, looking for something to take my mind off other things.

It's horrible.

Absolutely horrible.

Avoid with a passion.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 02-12-2008 03:24:17 PM
I've heard glowing praise from a lot of people :/
Maradon!
posted 02-12-2008 05:52:52 PM
It's funny cause I bought it and it's fucking awesome.

It most certainly isn't a 4x but it definitely scratches that master-of-orion itch.

The lack of an SP "campaign" really doesn't amount to much. Single player is divided into scenarios of different sizes, and even the smallest map can take a dozen hours or more. You can play any one at any time, but they have a definite logical progression to them. There's no real dialogued plot, but you can fill in the blanks.

There's a lot of strategy in setting up planetary defenses, the tech tree is satisfyingly broad, and there's even a decent amount of strategy to combat.

Tier
posted 02-12-2008 08:52:04 PM
itt mort contradicts 99% of professional reviewers and other people

what else is new?

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-12-2008 09:59:04 PM
I found it bland and boring. The music is sub-par, as are the sound effects, and the ship models are about as inspired as a block of cement. Which is what most of the ships look like, actually.

When it comes to spaceships, EVE has spoiled me.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 02-12-2008 10:49:33 PM
this 4x rts isn't as good as eve

money back prz

Maradon!
posted 02-12-2008 11:02:56 PM
Why the christ are you people comparing this to EVE, it isn't a goddamn thing remotely like eve

oh wait that's what gains is saying, so yeah

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 02-12-2008 at 11:03 PM.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-12-2008 11:36:38 PM
If you enjoy it, great. I don't. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

.. and I meant EVE as in they're both spaceship games, but the models mainly. I'm spoiled with good graphics is what I meant.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 02-13-2008 01:23:40 AM
someone explain what a 4x game is supposed to be

all i see is algebra. four times a game is not a game

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 02-13-2008 01:56:27 AM
eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate

it's like a civ game rather than a traditional game like starcraft or something

Greenlit
posted 02-13-2008 02:12:04 AM
needs more eXtreme
Gadani
U
posted 02-13-2008 03:51:47 PM
quote:
Mr. Gainsborough had this to say about Captain Planet:
eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate

it's like a civ game rather than a traditional game like starcraft or something


why dont they just say turn based strategy then

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 02-13-2008 05:24:57 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Gadani wrote:
why dont they just say turn based strategy then

idk i dont play those games

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