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Topic: New Diablo-esque game, looks very impressive.
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 06-06-2007 08:52:38 AM
I've seen a lot of buzz about Loki going around. A lot of people are comparing it to Titan's Quest, saying that as much fun as TQ was, the lack of randomly generated missions meant it got old after a while. This game has randomly generated maps Ala Diablo 2, so hopefully it'll be more replayable. There's two character-gameplay trailers out so far, it's worth looking at.
Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 06-06-2007 08:55:08 AM
Am I the only one who hates randomly generated content?
~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 06-06-2007 09:20:58 AM
I moreso hate having your gender assigned by your class.
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Steven Steve
posted 06-06-2007 09:21:16 AM
It looks like Age of Conan and Everquest 2 in the worst possible way
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 06-06-2007 12:01:46 PM
quote:
How.... Tarquinn.... uughhhhhh:
Am I the only one who hates randomly generated content?

No.

I would prefer finite content with an engaging storyline any day.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Skaw
posted 06-06-2007 06:01:55 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Azakias wrote:
No.

I would prefer finite content with an engaging storyline any day.


Why not have both?

Keep your main storyline fights, areas, etc. static.

Have your offshoot stuff randomly generated.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 06-06-2007 06:06:46 PM
If you want a Diablo clone then just check out Hellgate London

It's Bill Roper's company. It looks good.

Maradon!
posted 06-06-2007 06:11:47 PM
I thought hellgate london was going to be FPS style
Skaw
posted 06-06-2007 06:14:59 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Maradon! was all like:
I thought hellgate london was going to be FPS style

It's first person with guns, third person with melee items.

Boss
Pancake
posted 06-06-2007 06:24:22 PM
Last time I checked (and it's been a while), Diablo sucked. Hard.
Aaron (the good one)
posted 06-06-2007 06:31:24 PM
quote:
That damn dirty Boss rudely interrupted me to say;
Last time I checked (and it's been a while), Diablo sucked. Hard.

Don't post anymore.

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Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 06-06-2007 06:38:24 PM
Hellgate looks good, but I'm not so sure I buy into the "Create a game then take away features if you don't pay 10 bucks a month" thing they have going. I mean, I get the idea behind it, but there's some stuff that's kinda fucked up to take away. Things like getting nice items, shuttles around the world, significantly less storage space, the inability to create or be an officer in a guild and the inability to even access guild housing...that's pretty not cool.

I don't mind players who pay getting extra service, but the game feels incomplete without the extra 10 bucks a month, which is a bad idea. I'm fully behind the idea of people paying getting constant new content, though. To me, that's a good incentive to pay extra. Basic game features shouldn't be taken away from non-elites, though.

Falaanla Marr fucked around with this message on 06-06-2007 at 06:41 PM.

Aaron (the good one)
posted 06-06-2007 06:45:49 PM
The 'Greek Warrior' video makes it look incredibly boring.

The 'Norse Warrior' makes it look pretty good.

Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
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Boss
Pancake
posted 06-06-2007 06:48:02 PM
quote:
Delidgamond enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Don't post anymore.

รถ Srsly? My apologies for not enjoying your treasured shitty game.

Steven Steve
posted 06-06-2007 07:05:30 PM
It seems like every 2 months somebody comes on here and says Hellgate looks good, then weeks later someone says it's going to suck. And probably, it's going to suck.
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-06-2007 07:36:03 PM
quote:
Boss said:
รถ Srsly? My apologies for not enjoying your treasured shitty game.

For its time, it was revolutionary. There was nothing like it, nothing at all. When did you play it? Years after release? Or perhaps you mean Diablo 2.. which was absolute shite, much like people think Red Alert was the first Command & Conquer game. Diablo is the only original game that Blizzard has, so give it some credit.

So yes.

I concur with my colleage.

Don't post anymore.

Skaw
posted 06-06-2007 07:39:02 PM
Diablo II is a million times better than Diablo.

Anyone who disagrees is an idiot.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-06-2007 07:44:14 PM
It was the same thing. Just spread over a larger map. Not exactly revolutionary. Just milking the franchise more. With worse graphics. Better animation.. but worse graphics overall. It was grainy and disgusting to look at.

I dislike sequels that make the story from the previous game inconsequential and pointless. I went through all that to become strong enough to ram a gem into my head and control Diablo long enough to get help from some eastern monks, good. Oh wait.. I wasn't strong enough after all. Seems I did all that for nothing. Thanks for that.

Skaw
posted 06-06-2007 07:49:42 PM
What is Running, Alex?

Let's also not forget that the three classes were extremely pointless in the first, since you could just tailor one into another, since they pretty much all learned the same skills and magic.

Skaw fucked around with this message on 06-06-2007 at 07:51 PM.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 06-06-2007 07:58:24 PM
Yeah, Mort and Boss both need to pretty much get the hell out.

I love Diablo and all it's incarnations/clones.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-06-2007 08:35:45 PM
We can agree to disagree.

That and I'm not sharing a coach with Boss. He uses too many internet fad replies in his retorts.

Tier
posted 06-06-2007 09:46:50 PM
who is big boss
Greenlit
posted 06-06-2007 10:04:54 PM
Loki is one of the few games still using Starforce, so it will be skipped over entirely by me.

And Hellgate will probably suck. It might not, but I don't have any expectations either way; I just assume most games coming out will suck.

Aaron (the good one)
posted 06-06-2007 10:05:57 PM
what is Starforce
Galbadia Hotel - Video Game Music
I am Canadian and I hate The Tragically Hip
Greenlit
posted 06-06-2007 10:07:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starforce
Steven Steve
posted 06-06-2007 10:07:39 PM
Diablo is basically the only Blizzard game worth mention, and Diablo II was acceptable up until 1.10
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 06-06-2007 10:18:58 PM
quote:
Stalwart Steve had this to say about John Romero:
Diablo is basically the only Blizzard game worth mention, and Diablo II was acceptable up until 1.10

Ok, I'll give you that. 1.10 was utter shit.

Demos
Pancake
posted 06-07-2007 12:09:07 AM
I need a new game, and the dungeon crawling Diablo II style would be fun. Any recommendations or must-haves lately? I'm woefully out of the loop. Been busy playing CS source and DotA.
"Jesus saves, Buddha enlightens, Cthulhu thinks you'll make a nice sandwich."
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 06-07-2007 12:21:34 AM
Titan Quest
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 06-07-2007 03:49:53 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Greenlit:
Loki is one of the few games still using Starforce, so it will be skipped over entirely by me.

God damnit. And it looked fun too.

Fuck that starforce shit.

Maradon!
posted 06-07-2007 04:17:48 AM
quote:
Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Falaanla Marr who doth quote:
God damnit. And it looked fun too.

Fuck that starforce shit.


Get the best of both worlds: Pirate it

get the game and stick your thumb in starforce's eye. That way you can be principled and get what you want.

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 06-07-2007 at 04:18 AM.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 06-07-2007 09:23:39 AM
Since when did piracy become a principled stand on anything? What a fucking stupid thing to say.
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 06-07-2007 10:19:24 AM
Piracy is wrong kids.

Willias
Pancake
posted 06-07-2007 10:39:41 AM
quote:
Skaw had this to say about Cuba:
Let's also not forget that the three classes were extremely pointless in the first, since you could just tailor one into another, since they pretty much all learned the same skills and magic.

Why is this a bad thing? I liked the fact that my warrior could heal himself and shoot fireballs via cheating through his +INT sword.

LeMiere
posted 06-07-2007 03:47:31 PM
quote:
A sleep deprived Willias stammered:
Why is this a bad thing? I liked the fact that my warrior could heal himself and shoot fireballs via cheating through his +INT sword.

I enjoyed this too; the early game is when classes mattered. You stick with the weapon type appropriate to your class, and gradually become more versatile. Some players dislike playing an archetype through end game.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 06-07-2007 03:49:59 PM
The warrior was easiest to begin with, the mage was pretty damn hard but holy crap talk about raw power in the endgame.
Skaw
posted 06-07-2007 03:54:58 PM
quote:
Willias stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Why is this a bad thing? I liked the fact that my warrior could heal himself and shoot fireballs via cheating through his +INT sword.

I'm just saying that the class system was pointless, not that being able to tailor them into eachother was bad.

They should've just had some generic character creation with "YOU HAVE X POINTS, SPEND THEM ON STATS" and "PICK ONE OF THESE THREE SKILLS!"

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 06-07-2007 04:31:54 PM
quote:
Bloodsage's fortune cookie read:
Since when did piracy become a principled stand on anything? What a fucking stupid thing to say.

I think he's suggesting to Pirate it to show the company that despite how strict and invasive it is, that it still doesn't work.

Which, in turn, tells the company that they need to go out and create even MORE strict and draconian measures against piracy that are even MORE invasive to your PC!

Skaw
posted 06-07-2007 04:33:19 PM
Hey guys remember Sony's copyright protection that froze PCs.
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 06-07-2007 04:46:56 PM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Get the best of both worlds: Pirate it

get the game and stick your thumb in starforce's eye. That way you can be principled and get what you want.


Being principled would be playing it with Starforce anyways, or choosing not to play it. I've, sadly, taken the latter. Hopefully they pull Starforce from it like other companies have.

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