I've got a small wireless network strung up through the house, but I'm directly wired to it, so my connection is pretty spotless. The two wireless PCs, however, both get average - alright signal strength, so there's some droppage on occasion.
I have some 20gb worth of mp3s on the PC with the worst of the two connections, and I would like to stream them to the machine I am on now. Winamp can play over a network, but it skips like a motherfucker if there's a moment of packet loss or delay.
So I need something with good network support, and of course, playlists that don't suck to configure. WMP, I'm looking at you. Right at you, you piece of shit.
It's not something people hear about.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
There's a reason I don't use Quicktime; I don't want any fucking Apple products.
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Sean enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I used a Windows tag.There's a reason I don't use Quicktime; I don't want any fucking Apple products.
shrugs Suit yourself.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
I also just don't trust you enough to take your recommendations seriously.
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Kuroi Madoushi probably says this to all the girls:
iTunes has very simple playlist creation and it's designed for podcasting, so that should work.
How would it being designed for podcasting help at all?
Unless you set up some sort of server software on the media PC you'll have problems with packet loss though, it's not really common to treat mounted windows shares as anything other than normal folders. Mod fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 05:47 PM.
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Mod said this about your mom:
Unless you set up some sort of server software on the media PC you'll have problems with packet loss though, it's not really common to treat mounted windows shares as anything other than normal folders.
If you have a recommendation there, I would be all for it.
I just don't have the space to transfer it all over. 
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Sean spewed forth this undeniable truth:
If you have a recommendation there, I would be all for it.I just don't have the space to transfer it all over.
Quite honestly I've never dealt with on-demand streaming much, but you could try this out, although it's meant for internet radio type deals more than anything:
http://www.turnstyle.com/andromeda/home.asp
You could also try running a basic http server like apache or IIS (probably too expensive for your needs) on the machine that has your music on it and just streaming it over http with winamp or any other media player, it should automatically treat it as a stream and pre-load accordingly. There was also something called 'tinyhttp' or something similar for windows that might be easier to use than apache, although I can't find it right now.
Oh and I hate to say it, but I do remember Itunes having a play over network function for it's DRMed files, if everything else fails you could still grit your teeth and try that. Mod fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 06:02 PM.
Someone didn't pay attention to what I said to and about Kuroi. Sean fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 06:02 PM.
Giving Andromeda a shot right now, thanks Mod. 
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Azizza had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Only one worth a damn.
You moron. He already said he wasn't going to use it. You should be banned on principle of being a dumbass/Apple twat.
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How would it being designed for podcasting help at all?
Unless I'm mistaken, podcasting=internet radio shit. I've not the foggiest notion how to do what Sean is descibing outside of winamp or something like that.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
When a media player plays from a network stream it will buffer so the spot outages from wireless won't be an issue however when it's playing from a network share it doesn't buffer anything as it shouldn't have to.
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From the book of NullDevice, chapter 3, verse 16:
You'll have to setup a Shoutcast/Icecast server.When a media player plays from a network stream it will buffer so the spot outages from wireless won't be an issue however when it's playing from a network share it doesn't buffer anything as it shouldn't have to.
I don't remember icecast really being built for on-demand streaming.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Mod had this to say about John Romero:
I don't remember icecast really being built for on-demand streaming.
It does the same thing as Shoutcast does in that you're playing from a media source to a streamed destination. Of course you'd have no control over *what* was played but that's the sacrifice made for this.
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Kuroi Madoushi stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Wait a minute...he wasn't using a Shoutcast setup in the first place? This thread is a waste of time...
Just back out of the thread. Seriously. You're out of your element here.
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This one time, at NullDevice camp:
It does the same thing as Shoutcast does in that you're playing from a media source to a streamed destination. Of course you'd have no control over *what* was played but that's the sacrifice made for this.
Wouldn't it make more sense to just run a bare http server and initially open files through a browser? The player should pick up the file as being streamed all the same. It seems kind of a waste to not be able to play songs at will.
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Mod had this to say about (_|_):
Wouldn't it make more sense to just run a bare http server and initially open files through a browser? The player should pick up the file as being streamed all the same. It seems kind of a waste to not be able to play songs at will.
Inherent problem there... unless Winamp (or some other server) allows you to put all files in a play list as http:// entries you'll have to manually play each song.
Plus as a web hit, it will download and play each song increasing the lag between songs. I don't know how acceptable this would be if you could make it around the first issue...
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Snugglits had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
You moron. He already said he wasn't going to use it. You should be banned on principle of being a dumbass/Apple twat.
I only read the original post asking for a Media Player not the followups..
Speaking of banning people, this isn't a flame thread.
Oh and Quintessential Ryuujin fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 08:43 PM.
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Azizza was listening to Cher while typing:
Speaking of banning people, this isn't a flame thread.
Wait... rule enforcement?
Yeah right.
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NullDevice was naked while typing this:
Wait... rule enforcement?Yeah right.
Rules only apply if you arn't Snuglits.
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Naimah was naked while typing this:
Rules only apply if you arn't Snuglits.
Where is this in the fine print of the rules?
Fuck.. it's like a EULA... tons of shit in there you manage to miss because they use super-omfg-small print between lines or something.
I don't want to set up a playlist 'server' side and have to leave it running all day long and tune in like a radio station. I just want to open a shared file, have my media player buffer the damn file, and PLAY IT WITHOUT INTERRUPTION.
I hate technology. 
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Sean spewed forth this undeniable truth:
I cannot for the life of me figure out ShoutCAST, and even then, it doesn't seem to be what I want.I don't want to set up a playlist 'server' side and have to leave it running all day long and tune in like a radio station. I just want to open a shared file, have my media player buffer the damn file, and PLAY IT WITHOUT INTERRUPTION.
I hate technology.
ShoutCAST is definitely not what you want if you want direct control. Great for setting up a personal radio station, pointless for network unless you just let the whole thing run all day pre-arranged as you said. You can't have direct control over your playlist.
That being said, and I know you already said something about the playlists in WMP being sucky, but I'm curious as to how? Is this WMP10, or some other version. --If you did indeed mean WMP10, and concider it sucky, ignore the rest of this post, as it's not an option for you and you aren't interested. 
Because in all honesty, WMP works great over wi-fi between Windows PCs, could have my moms Laptop down at the Pier and still going strong without issues with iffy strength connections.
As far as I know, WMP10 Playlist setup is painless... 
It will autosort by genre, artist, even albums automatically. It even has pregen playlists that generated automated playlists based on your song rating, how often you have listened to em, when you listen to those songs normally (Nighttime, Daytime, etc) most often. Adding songs to the playlist to make your own is also painless, just right Click and Add to desired playlist. (Having everything already pre-sorted by genre, artist, and album also makes this even easier since it makes navigation absolutely painless.)
That is, if the Andromeda thing doesn't work out.
Just to be a bitch, I'm going to mention that remotely controlling mpd while it's doing icecast streaming would probably give you what you want, but it requires Linux. It's also a console thing. Anyway. Alidane fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 10:32 PM.
..how do you change volume? Sean fucked around with this message on 10-18-2005 at 10:56 PM.
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The mods can, technically, ban anyone at any time for any reason. Therefore, shut the fuck up about people being banned for "no reason" or not being banned for "good reason." Fuck's sake...
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Sean's fortune cookie read:
I'm liking foobar, thanks Alidane...how do you change volume?
I believe it's based off the OS volume setting. I find this to be a good thing.
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We were all impressed when Kegwen wrote:
I find this to be a good thing.
I do not, when gaming.
Guess I'll just switch over to Winamp when it's time to choke some bitches.
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Sean stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I'm liking foobar, thanks Alidane...how do you change volume?
Foobar's volume is kind of weird--it's that little dB rating in the bottom right corner. Default keybinding to change it is keypad +/- (I have global hotkeys for shift-+ and shift-- so I can change while playing a game). 0.00 is "max", and anything negative is under that. I remember having to tweak some volumes when I first started using it, as it was either louder or softer than the rest of my computer, I forget which.
Also, here is a big list of third-party plugins, although they're all going to break when 0.9 is released (don't know if you're using the beta or not). Probably more useful is this list of formatting strings, which can spice up the playlist view a little bit. I used something like this for a really long time, although my setup is currently in a bit of a state of flux.
And because I'm pimping links, Good wiki article on FB2k.
And and look into Kernel Streaming if you want to decouple foobar2000 from the Windows Mixer.
[edit]wrong links! fixed for formatting strings Alidane fucked around with this message on 10-19-2005 at 02:29 AM.
This player has quite a bit of merit. Thanks, duder.
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Shiz!
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Maradon! stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I came in here to suggest foobar, only to see it already has been.Shiz!
How's your sister been?
I can't believe Sean didn't know about Foobar already though. You suck, man. You fantasti-suck.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Alidane who doth quote:
How's your sister been?
Wow! You're CLEVER
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Maradon! had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Wow! You're CLEVER
Why the hell do you get so annoyed by that?
