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Pretty close, anyway!
Piracetam is a crazy brain-boosting chemical that supposedly won't cause me to get brain cancer on it. Information on it is fairly scarce but good ol' wiki never let me down. Piracetam isn't FDA-approved but I hear it's a big thing in Europe; would any European goons ECers like to comment on it?
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Rodent King had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I'm intrigued, and hadn't heard of it before. How much did it cost to buy your shipment, and how long will it last you? Do you take them once a day and over time they affect you constantly? Or do you take them only when you want the effect for a few hours? Let us know if they work and side effects, I'd be interested in trying something like that if they don't melt your brain.
$20+$5 shipping from bulknutrition. 700g, should last over a year. It's a powder form. Taken once or twice a day, effect peaks about 2-3 hours after the dosage and then goes to baseline for a while, from what I understand. The way I understand it, as long as you take it once or twice every day, you get the effect from it. Additionally, taking it like this for longer than a few weeks or so will begin to increase effects from it.
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Alidane had this to say about Pirotess:
Let us know when your testicles fall off.
I probably wasn't going to need them anyway.
Ewwwww, that's nasty. I'm going to have to find something to cover the awful taste. This is one of the worst tasting things I have ever tasted!
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Snugglits had this to say about Tron:
T+0:00 : ~1 teaspoon = 3640mg administered orally.Ewwwww, that's nasty. I'm going to have to find something to cover the awful taste. This is one of the worst tasting things I have ever tasted!
You could try putting it in a drink. It might chemically react with what you try to dissolve it in, though.
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Ruvyen attempted to be funny by writing:
You could try putting it in a drink. It might chemically react with what you try to dissolve it in, though.
It won't react with anything he'd be dissolving it in.
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Quoth Ruvyen:
You could try putting it in a drink. It might chemically react with what you try to dissolve it in, though.
Or you could just have a cup of coffee (proven to help one think more quickly and clearly) and practice using your brain/making decisions correctly/saving the world/whatever your goal is.
IMNSHO, intentionally fucking with how your brain works is stupid unless under the care of a certified neurologist.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage said this about your mom:
Or you could just have a cup of coffee (proven to help one think more quickly and clearly) and practice using your brain/making decisions correctly/saving the world/whatever your goal is.IMNSHO, intentionally fucking with how your brain works is stupid unless under the care of a certified neurologist.
Caffeine and piracetam are fairly dissimilar, and I have a fairly high caffeine tolerance. I don't like what caffeine does in large doses(especially to the GI) anyway.
Caffeine is more of a "drug" imo. And wouldn't you be fucking with how your brain works under caffeine anyway?
T + 1:30 : The 'peak' of piracetam. It's fairly subdued but it seems a bit easier to think and visual perception seems a bit better (namely, depth perception).
T + 3:00 : Effects drop off. Hard to tell if it's still with me.
T + 6:00 : Definitely all effects are gone.
I slept 4 hours yesterday afternoon and then another 2 last night so I'm just really tired. But I don't feel quite as dumb as I normally do when I'm sleepy. 
I also bought some lecithin at GNC. The important part of it is the choline. You have to keep replacing choline when using piracetam or your brain will "run out" and you'll lose the effects entirely.
I hear it takes about 4 days of repeated use to really get benefits so we'll see how things progress over time as I continue to take piracetam and lecithin. Supposedly, the longer you are on it, the better the effects become.
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Noxhil2 had this to say about Pirotess:
Isn't piracetam supposed to be a placebo?
There's about 400 goons who would say otherwise. And the history of it suggests that it was actually developed with a purpose.
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Verily, the chocolate bunny rabits doth run and play while Snugglits gently hums:
Caffeine and piracetam are fairly dissimilar, and I have a fairly high caffeine tolerance. I don't like what caffeine does in large doses(especially to the GI) anyway.Caffeine is more of a "drug" imo. And wouldn't you be fucking with how your brain works under caffeine anyway?
I think you've got your definitions bass-ackwards if you consider caffeine a drug and piracetam not. Caffeine, in small doses (think one or two cups of coffee) is actually quite harmless and beneficial to one's mental acuity, according to bazillions of studies. This thing you're taking has been developed--but not medically certified to be effective--to fuck with your brain chemistry. It's the very definition of a "drug."
And if you knew anything at all about the supplement market, you'd steer way clear of it.
Hey, but good luck with it.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bent over the coffee table, Snugglits squealed:
There's about 400 goons who would say otherwise. And the history of it suggests that it was actually developed with a purpose.
Anything that relies on testimonials rather than clinical trials to prove its efficacy should sound alarms in your brain.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage screamed this from the crapper:
Anything that relies on testimonials rather than clinical trials to prove its efficacy should sound alarms in your brain.
Especially with your now-heightened mental acuity.
See what I did there? How I packaged it all nicely? I'd like to thank Bloodsage for that excellent setup. I couldn't have done it without you!
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Karnaj absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
Especially with your now-heightened mental acuity.See what I did there? How I packaged it all nicely? I'd like to thank Bloodsage for that excellent setup. I couldn't have done it without you!
I also hear that tea made from ground-up rhinoceros horn and powdered tiger testicles can increase your potency if drunk while eating raw oysters.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Today on the Bloodsage shopping network, get this for the low low price of 199.95
I also hear that tea made from ground-up rhinoceros horn and powdered tiger testicles can increase your potency if drunk while eating raw oysters.
I tried Bloodsage's method, and i noticed increased virility right away!
edited because i suck at quotes Anakha fucked around with this message on 09-15-2005 at 03:55 AM.
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Snugglits had this to say about Knight Rider:
And wouldn't you be fucking with how your brain works under caffeine anyway?
Heart rate =/= brain
Oh no! 
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There was much rejoicing when Snugglits said this:
So in other words it is, at worst, a $20 placebo.Oh no!
Eh, no. Worst case scenarios of self administration of psychoactive substances, without the advice of a physician, tend to be quite severe.
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Sakkra had this to say about Pirotess:
Heart rate =/= brain
You fail.
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Pvednes had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Eh, no. Worst case scenarios of self administration of psychoactive substances, without the advice of a physician, tend to be quite severe.
There have been people who've been taking it for years without any reported side effects.
It's not the necessary clinical information you'd want, but it's all there is, so far...
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Snugglits painfully thought these words up:
There have been people who've been taking it for years without any reported side effects.It's not the necessary clinical information you'd want, but it's all there is, so far...
That's a similar level of clinical information to that which supports the Atkins Diet and Clark Stanley's Snake Oil Liniment.
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From the book of Maradon!, chapter 3, verse 16:
I think the long and short of it is that there's no such thing as a magic brain boosting pill, and if you think there is then you're silly.
Well to be fair it's not like we don't already have tons of substances that influence a person's state of mind. I wouldn't consider it impossible for a substance to be developed that does indeed improve cognitive ability and perception. Mod fucked around with this message on 09-15-2005 at 12:08 PM.
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Mod booooze lime pole over bench lick:
Well to be fair it's not like we don't already have tons of substances that influence a person's state of mind. I wouldn't consider it impossible for a substance to be developed that does indeed improve cognitive ability and perception.
Improved cognitive ability and perception is not a state of mind, though.
That's like saying it's plausable that there'd be a pill that gives us X-Ray vision.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Maradon! said:
Improved cognitive ability and perception is not a state of mind, though.That's like saying it's plausable that there'd be a pill that gives us X-Ray vision.
Not really, since the brain is capable of entering a state of heightened perception and cognitive ability under certain circumstances, it's not implausible to assume that this state can be induced arteficially. Also since there are mechanisms in the brain that allow for improvements in specific properties of the mind over a period of time, it is not implausible to suggest that those improvements could be at least stimulated though drugs, just as muscle development can be stimulated through the use of steroids or growth can be induced through hormone injections.
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Demos had this to say about Punky Brewster:
The way I see it, antidepressants are tested and approved and we're STILL finding out effects of it, for better and for worse. I can only imagine what will happen with pircetam down the line.
There's a huge difference in power, though.
Antidepressants make a drastic change. Piracetam is more than likely just a placebo, or if it does have effects they are very small/subtle.
eg. MAOI/SSRI vs. CNS stimulant Snugglits fucked around with this message on 09-15-2005 at 02:02 PM.
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Mod enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Not really, since the brain is capable of entering a state of heightened perception and cognitive ability under certain circumstances, it's not implausible to assume that this state can be induced arteficially. Also since there are mechanisms in the brain that allow for improvements in specific properties of the mind over a period of time, it is not implausible to suggest that those improvements could be at least stimulated though drugs, just as muscle development can be stimulated through the use of steroids or growth can be induced through hormone injections.
This is correct.
Most people seem to forget that the mind is really just a function of the physical brain. But, it is. 
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Maradon! stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Improved cognitive ability and perception is not a state of mind, though.That's like saying it's plausable that there'd be a pill that gives us X-Ray vision.
There is. It's called LSD.
It is held in thought
only by the understanding
of the Wind.
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Bloodsage had this to say about Punky Brewster:
I think you've got your definitions bass-ackwards if you consider caffeine a drug and piracetam not. Caffeine, in small doses (think one or two cups of coffee) is actually quite harmless and beneficial to one's mental acuity, according to bazillions of studies. This thing you're taking has been developed--but not medically certified to be effective--to fuck with your brain chemistry. It's the very definition of a "drug."And if you knew anything at all about the supplement market, you'd steer way clear of it.
Hey, but good luck with it.
Coffee tastes like shit, though.
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A sleep deprived Alidane stammered:
Coffee tastes like shit, though.
That's why we have sugar.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Alidane who doth quote:
Coffee tastes like shit, though.
Only if you're:
1) A preteen that hates everything that isn't syrupy sweet (see also: people who don't like beer)
2) Drinking shitty coffee
