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Topic: Portable Console Questions
Father McKenzie
Pancake
posted 07-04-2005 06:10:32 PM
I know a few of you have PSPs. Can I play PSX games on them and with how much effort? I would like to take, for instance, Chrono Cross or Legend of Dragoon or Final Fantasy Tactics and go to town on my PSP, how difficult would this be? I haven't seen a whole lot of great PSP games, either. What is battery life like?

Gameboy DSes seem okay but a lot of the DS games seem gimicky and for the games that don't use both screens it seems like the other screen would be bulky. What does Super Mario 64 have that you need to use a DS for and not an SP?

For my third concern, are there more portable consoles on the way? I don't want to buy a Nintendo DS with it's problems and find out the Nintendo XL or whatever is coming out in a month, or have a new PSP that fixes all it's issues.

Father McKenzie fucked around with this message on 07-04-2005 at 06:11 PM.

Sean
posted 07-04-2005 06:23:41 PM
quote:
Father McKenzie had this to say about Knight Rider:
What does Super Mario 64 have that you need to use a DS for and not an SP?

Polygons.

You can run most 8 and 16 bit emulation on PSPs at the moment, but no N64 or PSX yet.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Fox
Loser
posted 07-04-2005 06:31:24 PM
The PSP does have emulators available, however much is still in it's infancy it appears. http://www.pspupdates.com/categories/Emulators.html

How it works, it appears that there is some program called KXploit or whatnot. You can find more about it at the site on how to use it, but it seems relatively simple.

Also a good location for downloadables: http://www.pspdrive.com/v1.0/

As for new portables; there is the GB Micro which is a tiny gameboy. Also the Gizmondo, and something called Zodiac. Nothing really that is a new innovation that will have us selling our PSP's and DS's.

"It takes an idiot to do cool things, thats why its cool."
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than to be loved for what I'm not."
Talonus
Loner
posted 07-04-2005 07:16:25 PM
quote:
Sean's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
You can run most 8 and 16 bit emulation on PSPs at the moment, but no N64 or PSX yet.

Even then its limited. Many later SNES games won't run on PSPs yet, some because the emulation is new and some because the PSP can't handle certain chips. I wouldn't expect N64 or PSX emulation for a long while, if at all.

Also, you need the original 1.0 firmware to run any of them. Nothing runs on the 1.5 firmware as of yet.

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 07-04-2005 07:45:53 PM
quote:
Talonus probably says this to all the girls:
Even then its limited. Many later SNES games won't run on PSPs yet, some because the emulation is new and some because the PSP can't handle certain chips. I wouldn't expect N64 or PSX emulation for a long while, if at all.

Also, you need the original 1.0 firmware to run any of them. Nothing runs on the 1.5 firmware as of yet.


1.5 has a workaround that works just fine.

1.51 and 1.52 can't have any homebrew.

Sean
posted 07-04-2005 07:50:20 PM
quote:
Talonus wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Even then its limited. Many later SNES games won't run on PSPs yet, some because the emulation is new and some because the PSP can't handle certain chips. I wouldn't expect N64 or PSX emulation for a long while, if at all.

Also, you need the original 1.0 firmware to run any of them. Nothing runs on the 1.5 firmware as of yet.


Nuh-uh.

The only SNES game I've found that won't run on my 1.5 PSP is Yoshi's Island. Some RPG that everyone spooges over and I've never played (probably Seiken Densetsu) has a menu problem because it runs at a higher resolution there than the rest of the game, but if you know where the buttons are supposed to be it still works fine.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 07-04-2005 08:06:03 PM
quote:
Father McKenzie painfully thought these words up:
I don't want to buy a Nintendo DS with it's problems

The DS has problems? Like.. uh, what? I haven't regretted my decision to buy it over the PSP in the slightest.

Sean
posted 07-04-2005 08:11:19 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis had this to say about Cuba:
The DS has problems? Like.. uh, what? I haven't regretted my decision to buy it over the PSP in the slightest.

I bought both. I haven't played the DS since a week after I got it.

The PSP at least has utility to go with it's slow game library, but the DS is just dead in the fucking water for the moment. Even aesthetically the DS got solidly trounced, that PSP is a sexy beast.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 07-04-2005 08:15:29 PM
quote:
Sean was naked while typing this:
I bought both. I haven't played the DS since a week after I got it.

The PSP at least has utility to go with it's slow game library, but the DS is just dead in the fucking water for the moment. Even aesthetically the DS got solidly trounced, that PSP is a sexy beast.


And I can put the DS in my pocket and not worry about that oh-so-shiny screen getting scratched or marred in any way. On top of that, I can pop one of my library of GBA games as well as a DS game in and have enough game to satisfy a full batterylife.

On top of that, it's an excellent GBA player. For those of us who got them akward pinky cramps holding the SP (And loved the Original GBA width), it's nice to wrap our hands around it.

Plus, you won't be able to play the sequel to Aria of Sorrow.

Sean
posted 07-04-2005 08:21:32 PM
quote:
Verily, Delphi Aegis doth proclaim:
And I can put the DS in my pocket and not worry about that oh-so-shiny screen getting scratched or marred in any way. On top of that, I can pop one of my library of GBA games as well as a DS game in and have enough game to satisfy a full batterylife.

On top of that, it's an excellent GBA player. For those of us who got them akward pinky cramps holding the SP (And loved the Original GBA width), it's nice to wrap our hands around it.

Plus, you won't be able to play the sequel to Aria of Sorrow.


So what exactly are you saying, here? You're too irresponsible to keep your PSP from getting all fucked up? You'd rather have to carry around dozens of GB/GBA carts instead of a single memory stick?

And I'll let you know when I get all broken up about missing a Castlevania game.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Talonus
Loner
posted 07-04-2005 08:37:47 PM
quote:
This one time, at Batty camp:
1.5 has a workaround that works just fine.

1.51 and 1.52 can't have any homebrew.


My mistake. Last I'd read the 1.5 didn't work with homebrew. Do you still need to do the memory stick swap trick?


quote:
Sean had this to say about John Romero:
The only SNES game I've found that won't run on my 1.5 PSP is Yoshi's Island. Some RPG that everyone spooges over and I've never played (probably Seiken Densetsu) has a menu problem because it runs at a higher resolution there than the rest of the game, but if you know where the buttons are supposed to be it still works fine.

I thought anything with the Super FX chip or any other special chip won't run, or will have too much slowdown to be playable.

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 07-04-2005 08:49:09 PM
Nah, don't need the memory swap anymore I don't think. It's something about having two folders that appear to be named the same, one with a $ in front of it or something. I don't personally have a PSP yet but one of my friends does and he never shuts up about how the emulation is going...
Sean
posted 07-04-2005 08:54:20 PM
No memory card swapping. The only manual work at all to get emulation running is copying ROMs over to a very clearly labeled directory.

Games with frame rate problems can be remedied by upping the clocking the PSP's processor to 100% (333mhz), reducing sound quality, or enabling some frame skipping. Or combinations of all three.

Emulation took such a huge leap forward in so small an amount of time that it blew my fucking mind.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Talonus
Loner
posted 07-04-2005 09:01:35 PM
quote:
Sean had this to say about Pirotess:
Emulation took such a huge leap forward in so small an amount of time that it blew my fucking mind.

I'd have to say so. I don't pay attention to it for a few weeks and it changes drastically. Now all the problems are getting fixed. I still don't see a N64/PSX emulator anytime soon though.

Talonus fucked around with this message on 07-04-2005 at 09:02 PM.

Sean
posted 07-04-2005 09:05:23 PM
It'll happen sooner or later, I imagine an N64 sooner than the PSX however.

Once blank UMDs become more readily available the PSX possibilities will get a huge kick in the ass, since memory sticks for the system have capped at 1gb at the moment. Well, in a reasonable price range.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Father McKenzie
Pancake
posted 07-04-2005 10:05:35 PM
Wait, can I play FFT? I thought playing PSX games was a big point of it or maybe I misheard. Because a portable FFT would be nice.
BetaTested
Not gay, but loves the cock!
posted 07-04-2005 10:48:01 PM
quote:
This one time, at Father McKenzie camp:
Wait, can I play FFT? I thought playing PSX games was a big point of it or maybe I misheard. Because a portable FFT would be nice.

You miss heard. Although at the moment you might well be able to emulate FFT:A on it from the sounds of the sceen.

My co-worker got one on friday, and DAMN the sucker is cool. I'm gonna get one next paycheck with Wipeout Pure and the hack and slash D2 type game.


Got Xfire? Join me in the crusade to knock WoW from it's lofty #1 most played Xfire game with Solitare!
Private Part
Pancake
posted 07-05-2005 03:08:05 PM
I'll just stick to my old school giant gameboy
One by one, the penguins
steal my sanity
Sean
posted 07-05-2005 06:42:32 PM
quote:
BetaTested thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Although at the moment you might well be able to emulate FFT:A on it from the sounds of the sceen.

But.. who would want to?

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Father McKenzie
Pancake
posted 07-05-2005 08:11:35 PM
quote:
Sean wrote this stupid crap:
But.. who would want to?

Bingo. Ended up getting an SP (good for the money), Zelda, Metroid, Zelda 3 (SNES one), Mario Kart, both Fire Emblems, and Yoshi's Island. All used except Fire Emblem (and the SP itself) (EB Card discount). All work fine and are in good condition except Yoshi's Island and Zelda 3 which lock up. Mario Kart hurts my hand because of the way you have to hold down the gas the whole time on this tiny thing.

Is there any wings or something you can install so you can grip it wider?

Sean
posted 07-05-2005 08:14:02 PM
I meant FFT:A, which is a horrible abomination of a game.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Gadani
U
posted 07-05-2005 08:40:59 PM
quote:
Sean obviously shouldn't have said:
I meant FFT:A, which is a horrible abomination of a game.

I liked FFT:A.

Father McKenzie
Pancake
posted 07-05-2005 08:46:58 PM
quote:
Sean enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I meant FFT:A, which is a horrible abomination of a game.

I know. That's why I said Bingo. Because I agreed with you.

DrPaintThinner
Anti-Semite
posted 07-05-2005 08:49:58 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Sean said:
I meant FFT:A, which is a horrible abomination of a game.

Holy shit, Red Card. Your out of this thread.

roit, less bash 'is noggin
Father McKenzie
Pancake
posted 07-05-2005 08:53:29 PM
Well, I'm not getting him out of jail. This book is stupid, I'm going back to the real world so I can throw snowballs at kids.
Sean
posted 07-05-2005 08:55:01 PM
FFT:A needed a motherfucking cripple fight.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 07-05-2005 09:46:50 PM
I enjoy FFT:A for a couple reasons.

A) I never played FFT so I'm ignorant to what it's supposed to be.

B) It supplied me like 110 hours of mindless quests and grinding to piddle my free time away with.

C) The soundtrack was pretty cool.

D) Vieras. Nuff Said.

Mr. Gainsborough fucked around with this message on 07-05-2005 at 09:47 PM.

Gadani
U
posted 07-05-2005 09:49:22 PM
quote:
Mr. Gainsborough Model 2000 was programmed to say:

D) Vieras. Nuff Said.


Viera hentai. Now.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 07-05-2005 09:54:49 PM
quote:
Gadani had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Viera hentai. Now.

scroll down

Mr. Gainsborough fucked around with this message on 07-05-2005 at 09:59 PM.

Alaan
posted 07-05-2005 09:57:11 PM
quote:
Mr. Gainsborough stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I enjoy FFT:A for a couple reasons.

A) I never played FFT so I'm ignorant to what it's supposed to be.

B) It supplied me like 110 hours of mindless quests and grinding to piddle my free time away with.

C) The soundtrack was pretty cool.

D) Vieras. Nuff Said.


Unfortunately 180 of the 300 quests were GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING DISPATCH MISSIONS. So after you "beat" the game all your fights were just "OMG take this territory" or "OMG! WEAK CLAN FIGHT!"

And I really need to check out this emulation hot shit for my PSP. And get a bigger memory stick.

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 07-05-2005 09:58:33 PM
quote:
Gadani got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
Viera hentai. Now.

ALL OF THE FOLLOWING LINKS ARE NSFW. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

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And part of an FFT:A doujin that is centered around a viera.

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Sean
posted 07-05-2005 10:48:51 PM
quote:
Mr. Gainsborough enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
A) I never played FFT so I'm ignorant to what it's supposed to be.
B) It supplied me like 110 hours of mindless quests and grinding to piddle my free time away with.
C) The soundtrack was pretty cool.
D) Vieras. Nuff Said.

1) You need to.
2) ..Non-issue
3) See #1
4) No.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Alaan
posted 07-05-2005 11:43:24 PM
There is going to need to be some pretty solid code tightening or something. Though the SNES emulator does run, it drags pretty hard. The music speeds up and slows down during battle during attacks and stuff in FF6.

Alaan fucked around with this message on 07-05-2005 at 11:46 PM.

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 07-06-2005 12:30:35 AM
The problem is that right now they cannot use the graphics processor. There's no graphics acceleration at all. UMD games use the separate GPU. And the PSP processor runs anywhere from 222-266-333mhz. Emulation on a slow CPU like that is rather slow.

Eventually I am certain that they will discover how to split the load between graphics and sound/everything else so that it speeds up to regular UMD game speeds.

Cobalt Katze
Pancake
posted 07-06-2005 12:54:32 AM
My opinion is basically this: PSP looks amazing, handles great, but Lumines is the only game that I actually want to play on it.. and there's nothing coming out soon that I'd want to buy. The DS also looks and plays great and has the added bonus of titles I want to play as well as the titles I already own.. so.. I'll be getting that once I can afford it.
DrPaintThinner
Anti-Semite
posted 07-06-2005 07:17:26 PM
I was thinking about getting a PSP based on what everyone has been saying about it but I haven't been keeping up on the games released for it. So before I go out and waste my money could anyone suggest some good games out right now.

I was Planning on getting Metal Gear A!cd.

roit, less bash 'is noggin
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 07-08-2005 08:05:28 AM
HAET FFT:A

The original remains to this day my favourite game of all time, and that abomination of a sequel sickens me.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 07-08-2005 02:00:00 PM
quote:
DrPaintThinner enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I was thinking about getting a PSP based on what everyone has been saying about it but I haven't been keeping up on the games released for it. So before I go out and waste my money could anyone suggest some good games out right now.

I was Planning on getting Metal Gear A!cd.


Lumines, Dynasty Warriors, Metal Gear Acid, Smart Bomb, Twisted Metal, Hot Shots Golf.

Fox
Loser
posted 07-09-2005 04:35:09 AM
They do have a nice line of releases for both movies and games planned currently. I am awaiting anime said to be released, such as Appleseed and Samurai Champloo.
The DS may have a long selection of games, but the extra screen is somewhat useless unless the game is built for it. Therefore, I'd rather just stick with a GBA or SP. I think the whole playing movies and music is a better gimmick. A simple case prevents scratches and damage too(logitech playgear works nice).

Oh and the emulator seems to work alright if you speed it up a lil (via analog). I was able to play Fire Emblem on it earlier.

Fox fucked around with this message on 07-09-2005 at 04:39 AM.

"It takes an idiot to do cool things, thats why its cool."
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than to be loved for what I'm not."
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 07-09-2005 04:59:29 AM
The irony of playing GBA games on the PSP is awesome.
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