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Topic: They finaly caught the fucker...
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 02-17-2005 11:56:44 PM
Guy buys a powerful laser and shines it at planes taking off and landing at Seatac...

"We don't believe he intended to bring planes down or bother pilots but he was aware of the news reports" and didn't stop, Troyer said today."


Wait... He's shining a laser at piolets while they take off and land.. but his intentions weere not to bring them down? Then what the hell was he doing? Showing them the way?

Nicole
The hip-hop-happiest bunny in all of marshmallow woods
posted 02-17-2005 11:57:33 PM
Yay, real-life trolls.


I just spent
my last cent
purchasing this poverty.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 02-18-2005 12:29:58 AM
I'm guessing that he was doing it to try to discourage night takeoffs and landings. If he's not willing to put up with the noise, he shouldn't live next to an airport.
I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 02-18-2005 12:42:07 PM
quote:
Palador ChibiDragon painfully thought these words up:
I'm guessing that he was doing it to try to discourage night takeoffs and landings. If he's not willing to put up with the noise, he shouldn't live next to an airport.

This is considered a form of terrorism by the military.

He's damn lucky it wasnt a military aircraft he was doing it to.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 02-18-2005 12:51:09 PM
They are accually saying now that the man is mentaly handicapped and might not have known that what he was doing was wrong.

... I just really don't k now what to say to that...

diadem
eet bugz
posted 02-18-2005 12:57:05 PM
quote:
Azakias wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
This is considered a form of terrorism by the military.

He's damn lucky it wasnt a military aircraft he was doing it to.


this concerns me. there's a diffrence between a citzen being a dick and a terrorist.

was the considered terrorisim five years ago too?

play da best song in da world or me eet your soul
Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 02-18-2005 12:59:01 PM
quote:
diadem was naked while typing this:
this concerns me. there's a diffrence between a citzen being a dick and a terrorist.

was the considered terrorisim five years ago too?


Its considered terrorism because that laser light can blind the pilots and cause a plane crash. That would be a terrorist act

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 02-18-2005 12:59:19 PM
quote:
diadem got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
this concerns me. there's a diffrence between a citzen being a dick and a terrorist.

was the considered terrorisim five years ago too?


Not a chance. But we live in a DIFFERENT* world since 9/11.

*Not different.

quote:
Verily, Katrinity doth proclaim:
Its considered terrorism because that laser light can blind the pilots and cause a plane crash. That would be a terrorist act

Crashing an airplane (or making an attempt that can't actually succeed to crash an airplane as in this case) is always a terrorist act now? Even if the intent isn't to spread terror or further a political goal?

Explain this logic.

Zaza fucked around with this message on 02-18-2005 at 01:06 PM.

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 02-18-2005 01:08:36 PM
Well.. they considered a guy taking pictures of the Ballard locks for a collage project an act of terrorism. Profiled the guy and told him never to go to the locks again...
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 02-18-2005 01:09:44 PM
quote:
Trillee had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Well.. they considered a guy taking pictures of the Ballard locks for a collage project an act of terrorism. Profiled the guy and told him never to go to the locks again...

And that would likely not have happened pre-9/11 either.

That was the point diadem was making.

Katrinity
Cookie Goddess!
posted 02-18-2005 01:14:51 PM
quote:
Zaza impressed everyone with:
Crashing an airplane (or making an attempt that can't actually succeed to crash an airplane as in this case) is always a terrorist act now? Even if the intent isn't to spread terror or further a political goal?

Explain this logic.


If a plane had crashed from this it would generate a good amount of terror regardless of intent. Lets take for example, the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing. Would it not still be considered an act of terrorism if the bombers did it totally innocent of wanting to cause terror but instead to test the strength of their explosives?

Though I will say the word 'Terrorism' has grown in what it encompasses since 9/11. We misuse what the word used to mean orginally.

Katrinity fucked around with this message on 02-18-2005 at 01:17 PM.

Cookie Goddess Supreme
Furry Kitsune of Power!
Pouncer of the 12th degree!
"Cxularath ftombn gonoragh pv'iornw hqxoxon targh!"
Translated: "Sell your soul for a cookie?"
diadem
eet bugz
posted 02-18-2005 01:25:13 PM
quote:
Katrinity Model 2000 was programmed to say:
If a plane had crashed from this it would generate a good amount of terror regardless of intent. Lets take for example, the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing. Would it not still be considered an act of terrorism if the bombers did it totally innocent of wanting to cause terror but instead to test the strength of their explosives?

Though I will say the word 'Terrorism' has grown in what it encompasses since 9/11. We misuse what the word used to mean orginally.


I don't belive it would be, no. It wouldn't effect the level of the tragedy, but it would mean the bombers are insane.

Look at it this way, I break into a house and shoot a guy to death.

Ok.

He slept with my wife. Is that terrorisim? No, it's an act of passion.

He was killed as an example that one person will die every hour if an extermist leader isn't released from some jail. Is that terrorisim? You betcha.

We are broadining the use of the word terrorisim for the intent of protecting ourselves. It doesn't seem to have as much to do with the idea of terrorisim anymore than it does to increse the sevarity of punishment certain crimes and circumvent older legeal procedures.

play da best song in da world or me eet your soul
Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 02-18-2005 01:32:56 PM
quote:
Katrinity wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
If a plane had crashed from this it would generate a good amount of terror regardless of intent. Lets take for example, the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing. Would it not still be considered an act of terrorism if the bombers did it totally innocent of wanting to cause terror but instead to test the strength of their explosives?

Though I will say the word 'Terrorism' has grown in what it encompasses since 9/11. We misuse what the word used to mean orginally.


Serial killers generate a lot of terror too. As do almost any demograph of violent criminals, such as muggers, rapists and gangers. Are they terrorists as well?

Using that logic, everything that generates fear is terrorism, and that makes the word pointless. No, wanting to test the strength of your explosives on people isn't terrorism, it's deranged murder.

Zaza fucked around with this message on 02-18-2005 at 01:33 PM.

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 02-18-2005 02:17:36 PM
Someone once stole my pants. They were a terrorist because it was my favorite pair of pants and I was scared to be without them.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 02-18-2005 02:26:31 PM
Interestingly enough, I believe Zaza to be related to terrorism.

For one, the letter 'a' appears twice in Zaza's name. The word 'airplane,' the chief vehicle of terror, begins with that letter.

In addition, he is Swedish and thusly not American. As we know, all non-Americans loathe their betters and become quite angry when confronted with the fact that they are not American.

Fourthly, Zaza is also a pug.

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 02-18-2005 02:35:32 PM
The word terrorism is used for everything now. The word has really lost its meaning, even common criminals are getting labeled that.

In the post 9/11 world, everything bad = Terror/ist/ism

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Azakias
Never wore the pants, thus still wields the power of unused (_|_)
posted 02-18-2005 02:41:04 PM
Just for the record, I believe that flashing pilots with lasers in this manner has been considered an offense for quite a while, even pre-911. And it can cause a crash, not just theoretically, because there is no such thing as an 'autoland' on a plane. Pretty much everything is subject to human control on an aircraft.

Perhaps a bad analogy, but you know how annoying and potentially dangerous it is to drive with the sun directly in front of you, shining in your eyes? Both are potentially dangerous, possibly lethal, but neither will cause a crash EVERY time.

"Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being"
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-18-2005 02:49:36 PM
*tests Zaza's theory by shining eyes in Palador's eyes while the dragon is taking off and landing...measures to see if terror ensues*
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
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Snugglits
I LIKE TO ABUSE THE ALERT MOD BUTTON AND I ENJOY THE FLAVOR OF SWEET SWEET COCK.
posted 02-18-2005 04:06:08 PM
There should be a small chance of being blinded in MSFS if you land at seattle-tacoma now. :p
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Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 02-18-2005 08:19:01 PM
quote:
Azakias wrote this stupid crap:
Just for the record, I believe that flashing pilots with lasers in this manner has been considered an offense for quite a while, even pre-911. And it can cause a crash, not just theoretically, because there is no such thing as an 'autoland' on a plane. Pretty much everything is subject to human control on an aircraft.

Perhaps a bad analogy, but you know how annoying and potentially dangerous it is to drive with the sun directly in front of you, shining in your eyes? Both are potentially dangerous, possibly lethal, but neither will cause a crash EVERY time.


Oh, he should most definitely be tried for attempted murder or attempted manslaughter plus attempted <legal name for destroying an airplane here>. I just don't think he should be tried for terrorism.

Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 02-18-2005 08:30:00 PM
quote:
Zaza had this to say about dark elf butts:
Oh, he should most definitely be tried for attempted murder or attempted manslaughter plus attempted <legal name for destroying an airplane here>. I just don't think he should be tried for terrorism.

Unfortunatly if they find him mentaly handicapped... that means they'll say he has no idea what he did was wrong. And according to the local news thismorning, that was a possability. I'm waiting to see what they say about it tonight

Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 02-18-2005 08:46:35 PM
quote:
So quoth Trillee:
Unfortunatly if they find him mentaly handicapped... that means they'll say he has no idea what he did was wrong. And according to the local news thismorning, that was a possability. I'm waiting to see what they say about it tonight

Well, if he's handicapped to the point that he doesn't understand shining lasers on planes = bad, then he should get help and frequent supervision, so he doesn't do anything even worse.

Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 02-18-2005 09:20:47 PM
quote:
Zaza had this to say about Cuba:
Well, if he's handicapped to the point that he doesn't understand shining lasers on planes = bad, then he should get help and frequent supervision, so he doesn't do anything even worse.

That's usually what happens when you plead something along the lines of "not guilty by reason of insanity" - instead of going to prison, you go to an asylum, where the walls are softer.




moogle is the 3241727861th binary digit of pi

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Zaza
I don't give a damn.
posted 02-18-2005 09:29:02 PM
quote:
Gunslinger Moogle wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
That's usually what happens when you plead something along the lines of "not guilty by reason of insanity" - instead of going to prison, you go to an asylum, where the walls are softer.

I'm aware.

Either way he should be locked away.

Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 02-18-2005 09:33:28 PM
quote:
Zaza's fortune cookie read:
I'm aware.

Either way he should be locked away.


Well then, my, uh...you...knowing things...detector....seems to be broken.

Yeah.




moogle is the 3241727861th binary digit of pi

Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
The fastest draw in the Crest.
"The Internet is MY critical thinking course." -Maradon
"Gambling for the husband, an abortion for the wife and fireworks for the kids they chose to keep? Fuck you, Disneyland. The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation is the happiest place on Earth." -JooJooFlop

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 02-19-2005 12:34:17 AM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael thought about the meaning of life:
*tests Zaza's theory by shining light in Palador's eyes while the dragon is taking off and landing...measures to see if terror ensues*

*confusion, panic, pain, a load of topsoil up the nose, and the need for a wing-splint all follow closely together, but it's over all too quickly for actual terror to ensue*

Palador ChibiDragon fucked around with this message on 02-19-2005 at 12:34 AM.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Cebreu
Pancake
posted 02-19-2005 02:02:31 AM
Oh, by the way...even handheld lasers can permanently damage your eyes. There are several reports of military pilots/crewmembers losing visions partially or totally due to the laser burning their retinas. Terrorism? Maybe not in the established sense of the word, but then again someone with holes in their retinas probably isn't going to be able to do their job anymore either.
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-19-2005 07:55:36 AM
quote:
Palador ChibiDragon wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
*confusion, panic, pain, a load of topsoil up the nose, and the need for a wing-splint all follow closely together, but it's over all too quickly for actual terror to ensue*

Aha! Hmm. Well at least he didn't land on me.

*wheels Palador off to the bioreactor to get healed up*

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 02-20-2005 09:58:07 AM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Palador ChibiDragon:
a load of topsoil up the nose

That HAS to be uncomfortable.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-20-2005 12:46:29 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Zephyer Kyuukaze wrote:
That HAS to be uncomfortable.

Yeah but when you have nostrils like jet intakes, it happens.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Cavalier-
Pancake
posted 02-20-2005 05:00:15 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael attempted to be funny by writing:
Yeah but when you have nostrils like jet intakes, it happens.

Makes it handy for in-flight refueling though...

..just fly through that flock of birds, nostrils spread wide... instant lunch!!

[edit:] Provided of course that he directs them to stomach, and not lungs...

Cavalier- fucked around with this message on 02-20-2005 at 05:01 PM.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-20-2005 05:18:14 PM
quote:
Cavalier- had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Makes it handy for in-flight refueling though...

..just fly through that flock of birds, nostrils spread wide... instant lunch!!

[edit:] Provided of course that he directs them to stomach, and not lungs...


I wouldn't want to filter a flock of geese through my nasal passages. Besides he can just open his mouth

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Cavalier-
Pancake
posted 02-20-2005 05:19:54 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Knight Rider:
I wouldn't want to filter a flock of geese through my nasal passages. Besides he can just open his mouth

..but then he wouldnt need nostrils as 'air-intakes' either...

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-20-2005 05:24:53 PM
quote:
Cavalier- had this to say about (_|_):
..but then he wouldnt need nostrils as 'air-intakes' either...


Flying with your mouth open is less aerodynamic, though. You burn more energy. So you open your mouth to scoop up a flock of geese, then close your mouth and continue breathing through your giant nostrils.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 02-20-2005 05:54:59 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Flying with your mouth open is less aerodynamic, though. You burn more energy. So you open your mouth to scoop up a flock of geese, then close your mouth and continue breathing through your giant nostrils.

This whole conversation makes me hope my TV tuner gets here before March... dammit

Cavalier-
Pancake
posted 02-20-2005 06:26:20 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael's fortune cookie read:
Flying with your mouth open is less aerodynamic, though. You burn more energy. So you open your mouth to scoop up a flock of geese, then close your mouth and continue breathing through your giant nostrils.

.. but he can scoop in more air through his mouth, then expel it via his...

... well you know..

..kinda like a ramjet..

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-21-2005 12:36:16 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Cavalier-!
.. but he can scoop in more air through his mouth, then expel it via his...

... well you know..

..kinda like a ramjet..


I don't want to consider "that" orifice with any words that have "ram" in them.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 02-21-2005 01:19:16 AM
Isn't he a Pseudo-Dragon? Or did someone cast Enlarge on him?
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 02-21-2005 01:32:20 AM
quote:
Dr. Gee had this to say about pies:
Isn't he a Pseudo-Dragon? Or did someone cast Enlarge on him?

I'm small for a Dragon. Which is to say, SUV sized. Started smaller, though.

And honestly guys, if I need food on the go I use the Taco Bell drive-through. I get to freak out the guy at the window, it tastes better than raw goose (though not by much), and I still get the "afterburner" effect. Not that that last one is a good thing...

If Taco Bell isn't an option, Exploding Fireball spells plus farm animals usually results in a few well cooked chunks of food being launched up to flight level for easy snacking on the go.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 02-21-2005 02:00:35 AM
Wait, is there a non-Exploding Fireball spell i haven't heard about?
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