This is a -MAJOR- pet peeve of mine.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
But I'm a bit biased. I can't stand you guys.
It's not something people hear about.
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We were all impressed when Sean wrote:
I'd say you're more a disgusting crossdresser than a fag.But I'm a bit biased. I can't stand you guys.
Explain why. It's an honest question, I don't mean to come across as defensive, but I'm not sure it'd seem any other way. I'm quite curious.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
And simple in the case that, no matter how hard you try, and no matter how many estrogen injections you give yourself beforehand, you can neither react or think in the same manner a woman does. Therefor your character will not either, unless you grossly exaggerate.
In most of the games I play, crossdressing is forbidden - with the rare exception of a character of the player's actual gender being magically changed to the other. Which, as I'm sure Rosa and Addy will come along and testify to, is rare. Except in my case. My DM hates me with his Wild Magic rules.
It's not something people hear about.
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Maho wrote this stupid crap:
ANSWER THE QUESTION DANGIT!!!
I'M SORRY IT TOOK LONGER THAN FOUR MINUTES. NEXT TIME I WILL DROP EVERYTHING TO ANSWER YOU AND YOUR QUESTIONS OF DIRE IMPORTANCE. 
It's not something people hear about.
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Mortious thought about the meaning of life:
Lemmy is.. hell.. I don't know what he is.
I'm ... in need of a shave.
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ACES! Another post by LeMiere:
Society views femininity as an aspect of female gender. Most people do not distinguish between gender and sex. They thus see femininity as an aspect of the female sex. When a man plays the role of a female, it is assumed that he must identify with the character he is playing, as such a stress of character creation seems generally unnecessary. The male sex is seen as though they are supposed to idealize acting as a masculine entity. When a male adopts a female avatar, that must mean, to the average eye, that he does not wish to partake in the common idealization of the masculine figure that man 'should.' Thus society brands him as having similar attributes as women, who are considered feminine, who like men. Thus a feminine character must like men, and a man who plays the character must like men, because his character's model idealizes a feminine beauty, not to be gawked at, but to be played/acted through. Not to mention, that character is the identifyer of the player.
Thank you. You're the first to actually bother addressing the topic of the thread. For this, I give you pie. *buries LeMiere in coconut cream pies*
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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LeMiere wrote:
I'm ... in need of a shave.
The question is.. where?
And I love pie.
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Mortious enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
The question is.. where?
I could use a trim myself, but I never shave, shave.
It's not something people hear about.
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Sean wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
And simple in the case that, no matter how hard you try, and no matter how many estrogen injections you give yourself beforehand, you can neither react or think in the same manner a woman does. Therefor your character will not either, unless you grossly exaggerate.
I could, and did... Now whether I should concider that a good thing or not still bothers me.
As for why I play a chick in games, plain and simple, I'm a pervert, and I don't looking at guys. If I play a game, I'm playing a chick because I'd rather look at cartoon female tits and ass, than male tits and ass.
If it's not a graphical game, then typically, I don't play a chick because then there isnt anything to see. So it is irrelevant, I think I have maybe twice in my life played a female character in a non-graphical DnD game. One time was simply because the DM only needed me to fill and NPC roll he had (Since my character had died, and I had to wait to get back into it) and the second time was for the game Rob ran when he came to visit here, and that one scarred me for life because Tim tried to sell me into exotic entertainment and leave me at the bar. 
So unless you count being a DM myself and having to act out the female rolls for my players, those are the only two instances in where I have done that. The only time in a graphical game I have played a chick without the purpose of looks was in the case of Faelynn, and technically I had never planned to play her for real, she was an RP addition to my male character, so I only played here when I was taking a break from him. I just ended up having more fun playing her class, so stuck with her.
I'm also known around EC as one of the original sluts, hence my title that has remained the same for so many years even though it no longer applies,... Again not sure if I should be proud of that or not. I had people everywhere, including ECers call me a liar when I kept telling them I was a guy, it took almost 2 years before a lot people actually accepted the fact I was a GUY, not a GIRL, I AM A GUY!
And aside from that, I'm usually too busy playing the game to care all that much about what my character really looks like.
Fal.
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How.... Liam.... uughhhhhh:
I never did understand the rational that people play as females just so they can look at their characters and what not. I mean, when I play Max Payne I'm not repulsed at the fact that I'm looking at a male or anything.
I don't buy it either.
People Fae and Fal are just freaks.
ono 
It annoys the heck out of me.
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Maradon! painfully thought these words up:
I don't buy it either.People Fae and Fal are just freaks.
Why is DOA so popular? It's not because it's the one of the greatest fighting game systems (Although there will be those guys who claim it is, and thats the only reason they play it!) why did everyone look forward to DoA Extreme Beach Volleyball, whats the most fun part about Outlaw Golf, why are the number one comments about games around here a lot of times about pantyshots and playing the female fighters like Ivy or Sophita or whatnot in the games JUST because they are good eye candy, why are there thousands apon thousands of "Hottest Female Game Character Polls" everywhere? 
I'm sorry, I just don't like looking at guys for any length of time. Will it stop me from playing a game if I can't play a female, as in Liam's example? No, but given the choice between having a female character and a male one, I'll play a female for just that reason. EXPECIALLY where it's a game that I spend several hours on per day, several days a week, so several years.
I have no secret desires to be female, I don't act like a female in my real life, I have no desire to dress up in girls upderwear, and I was never one of those lucky guys playing a girl, that everyone always gave stuff too... Hell after 4 years and 30 levels in EQ I was still in my lowbie leather armor. I also have male characters in everyone one of those games too, I just honestly get tired of looking at it. And since it's a time investment, I spent more time looking at T&A rather than Planks and Wang.
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There was much rejoicing when Faelynn LeAndris said this:
I have no secret desires to be female...
Duh, it would be no longer secret if you would tell us about it! 
Unless you do it just so people will give you stuff for free without asking for it. Then it's acceptable.
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Faelynn LeAndris thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Why is DOA so popular? It's not because it's the one of the greatest fighting game systems (Although there will be those guys who claim it is, and thats the only reason they play it!) why did everyone look forward to DoA Extreme Beach Volleyball, whats the most fun part about Outlaw Golf, why are the number one comments about games around here a lot of times about pantyshots and playing the female fighters like Ivy or Sophita or whatnot in the games JUST because they are good eye candy, why are there thousands apon thousands of "Hottest Female Game Character Polls" everywhere?I'm sorry, I just don't like looking at guys for any length of time. Will it stop me from playing a game if I can't play a female, as in Liam's example? No, but given the choice between having a female character and a male one, I'll play a female for just that reason. EXPECIALLY where it's a game that I spend several hours on per day, several days a week, so several years.
There are a couple of flaws with your claim.
1) Your claims about DoA and such are basically correct except for one thing - Nobody talks about playing as the hot characters. Nobody shows any predilection toward playing a female character just because it's attractive. You never hear anyone say "Ivy is my favorite character to use, because she's hot." I've only ever heard that sort of claim come from someone who plays a female character in every other game they play.
2) The "I just don't like looking at guys" claim doesn't hold water either, primarily because it's a little hard to believe that you're so utterly repulsed by the male form that you can't stand to look at the back of a guy's head on the few occasions that your attention can be spared for idle activity, but also because even in games where you never, ever see your character model (Unreal Tournament comes to mind) you still use the female player models.
3) This claim doesn't explain the fact that both you and Fal portray yourselves as female outside the games you play as well. I've never seen either of you use a sigpic that wasn't obviously female.
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I have no secret desires to be female, I don't act like a female in my real life, I have no desire to dress up in girls upderwear, and I was never one of those lucky guys playing a girl, that everyone always gave stuff too... Hell after 4 years and 30 levels in EQ I was still in my lowbie leather armor. I also have male characters in everyone one of those games too, I just honestly get tired of looking at it. And since it's a time investment, I spent more time looking at T&A rather than Planks and Wang.
I'm not claiming anything like that, I only claim that your given reason sounds extremely suspect to me.
I am a man. I play male characters.
Women are women. They play female characters.
I just boil it down to logic. Would I dress up as a female in real life because I prefer looking at females? No. Then, for the same reason, I would not dress up as a girl in a game because I prefer looking at females.
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-Yuri- had this to say about Punky Brewster:
I just dont see a reason to. The whole 'I like looking at female tits and ass' is bullshit. It's pixels. It's not real. Those 'tits' and 'asses' are just groupings of pixels with no gender included.
Eh, you could say the same thing about porn, hentai, and any number of other things.
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Maradon! said this:
Eh, you could say the same thing about porn, hentai, and any number of other things.
Porn at least are real people. It's actual video.
I don't like hentai for the same reason I mentioned earlier.
Edit: I guess what I'm saying is the pixels in pornography are representing real people doing acts that really happened. There's an element of the knowledge of the fact that the event did happen and that these people really did do what the video portrays. Hentai or even the very basic idea of female avatars represent nothing but the artists imagination, most of the time, another guy's imagination. I just dont see how people get turned on by looking at something some other guy came up with.
Maybe I'm just homophobic. -Yuri- fucked around with this message on 11-05-2004 at 09:17 AM.
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-Yuri- stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Porn at least are real people. It's actual video.
It's actual video that consists of a series of illuminated pixels combined to represent a real life entity, just like chicks in games and hentai.
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Maradon! said this:
It's actual video that consists of a series of illuminated pixels combined to represent a real life entity, just like chicks in games and hentai.
read my edit.. I think I clarified my thoughts a little clearer.
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-Yuri- Model 2000 was programmed to say:
Edit: I guess what I'm saying is the pixels in pornography are representing real people doing acts that really happened. There's an element of the knowledge of the fact that the event did happen and that these people really did do what the video portrays. Hentai or even the very basic idea of female avatars represent nothing but the artists imagination, most of the time, another guy's imagination. I just dont see how people get turned on by looking at something some other guy came up with.Maybe I'm just homophobic.
Video games chicks are every bit as real as magazine centerfolds once the airbrushing artists are done with them.
As for sex porn, well that's something a little different, isn't it?
M'eh.
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Check out the big brain on diadem!
no, wanting to have sex with men and not women makes you homosexual
Best answer for you.
Homosexuality is determined by who you are attracted to. I dress like a guy in real life. Does this make me a lesbian? I sure as hell am not attracted by women.
The female form is pleasing to the eye. It might be someone prefers looking at T&A, but it could also be that they enjoy artwork of the female form moreso than the male.
And seeing as all a game character is made of is pixals, then why would you take something so small as a testiment to orientation?
I don't think it's because they're gay and I never said so, I just don't understand why they do it. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 11-05-2004 at 09:30 AM.
