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Topic: Mock presidential vote conducted by classroom news channel
Maradon!
posted 10-24-2004 07:01:38 PM
1.4 million teenagers across the country voted in a mock presidential election, and they elected...

Drysart fucked around with this message on 10-24-2004 at 10:42 PM.

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 10-24-2004 07:02:56 PM
The Nickelodeon one said Kerry would win.
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Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 10-24-2004 07:03:35 PM
Somehow I did not expect that.
nem-x
posted 10-24-2004 07:04:55 PM
The Russians are invading!
Alaan
posted 10-24-2004 07:07:19 PM
That is kind of unusual for Channel 1 for what I remember seeing on there. They rarely had a poll where there was more than 10% difference.
Demos
Pancake
posted 10-24-2004 07:17:38 PM
Being from the midwest, in all except the city, theres a lot of peer pressure to support Bush. I'm not suprised at the results.
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Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 10-24-2004 07:21:35 PM
Washington is red? I knew those socialist liberals in Seattle wanted us all under red father!
Maradon!
posted 10-24-2004 07:38:23 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on JooJooFlop!
The Nickelodeon one said Kerry would win.

The nickelodeon one also did not have any age verification or method for preventing people from voting more than once.

Lokii
Pancake
posted 10-24-2004 07:44:40 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Demos wrote:
Being from the midwest, in all except the city, theres a lot of peer pressure to support Bush. I'm not suprised at the results.

Ehhh, I'm not so sure that's true. If anything, it's the other way around. I have a friend in the debate club, and he says almost all of the kids in it support Kerry.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 10-24-2004 07:50:32 PM
I am not suprised at all. I would have been very very suprised if Kerry had won.
Noxhil
Pancake
posted 10-24-2004 07:52:50 PM
Some of the percentages were mildly suprising, but as a whole it seems utterly worthless.
Demos
Pancake
posted 10-24-2004 07:53:30 PM
Probably depends on the neighboorhood. My specific home town is somewhat liberal, but the next town over is a bunch of stuck up, rich white kids who happen to be quite conservative (Frankfort).
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Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 10-24-2004 07:55:13 PM
I know quite a few Bushies at my school.

Although some of the sophomores have the idea that Kerry plans to reinstate the draft. WTF.




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Maradon!
posted 10-24-2004 07:56:38 PM
quote:
Noxhil had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Some of the percentages were mildly suprising, but as a whole it seems utterly worthless.

I'm sure you'd be saying that if Kerry had won, mr. "x should be banned because people don't need it."

Zair
The Imp
posted 10-24-2004 07:56:45 PM
quote:
Verily, Maradon! doth proclaim:
The nickelodeon one also did not have any age verification or method for preventing people from voting more than once.

I can't figure out the specifics of how the mock election you linked to worked either. Could you link me to where it tells the specifics? I looked, but couldn't find it.

(I mean like, age requirements, where they voted [school? online?], etc)

Maradon!
posted 10-24-2004 08:00:49 PM
quote:
Zair had this to say about dark elf butts:
(I mean like, age requirements, where they voted [school? online?], etc)

I'm listening to a radio show that involved a rep from the channel, and only found the site from that.

According to the rep ChannelOne is a news channel that's broadcast in schools, and the vote took place at school. The Nickelodeon one was done online.

Zair
The Imp
posted 10-24-2004 08:03:16 PM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Knight Rider:
I'm listening to a radio show that involved a rep from the channel, and only found the site from that.

According to the rep ChannelOne is a news channel that's broadcast in schools, and the vote took place at school. The Nickelodeon one was done online.


Well, even though this poll isn't important or anything, it is pretty useless to make anything out of it (even the assumption that most teenagers prefer Bush) without some knowledge of how it was conducted. And it is weird that it says nothing about that either..

edit: and yeah I know the poll is just for fun and not scientific ...

edit2: Because I was bored I found
this, and answered my own questions.

Zair fucked around with this message on 10-24-2004 at 08:11 PM.

Talonus
Loner
posted 10-24-2004 08:12:56 PM
quote:
Zair had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Well, even though this poll isn't important or anything, it is pretty useless to make anything out of it (even the assumption that most teenagers prefer Bush) without some knowledge of how it was conducted. And it is weird that it says nothing about that either..

That was my first thought about it. Doesn't say how it was conducted. Nothing about the schools chosen, area, social demographic, actual numbers, etc. It just gives the pecentages. Some of the numbers seem quite odd compared to normal voting standards for the state, e.g. NY has a 48.5%/42.4% split and Bush taking some states that are normally Democratic. There's also some absurdly high third party %s, with over 10% in Alaska and Hawaii.

Not saying the numbers were fooled with, but I don't think it can really be taken as an accurate assessment of how teens think.

Noxhil
Pancake
posted 10-24-2004 08:20:10 PM
quote:
Maradon! painfully thought these words up:
I'm sure you'd be saying that if Kerry had won, mr. "x should be banned because people don't need it."

How did I say that? The percentages are odd enough that I don't think it was conducted in an effective way. Also there is nothing on the site that I could find that indicated the polling process. Those two factors lead me to say that it is unscientific, and not an accurate representation of what America, nor teens think. This may actually be the consensus, but this poll is hardly proof enough for it.

Y.O.T.C
No longer a Towel Girl
posted 10-24-2004 08:22:49 PM
hmmm.. its red vs blue, and blues gettin their ass kicked.

Also love hawaii for having 10% other. VOTE DOLE DAMNIT!

Alaan
posted 10-24-2004 08:28:57 PM
Most of the schools are more suburban based for one from what I've seen. And Dems. traditionally have a stronger base in the cities.
Zair
The Imp
posted 10-24-2004 08:43:55 PM
quote:
Alaan probably says this to all the girls:
Most of the schools are more suburban based for one from what I've seen. And Dems. traditionally have a stronger base in the cities.

I think the strange numbers have something to do with this as well. It is likely that only more affluent schools are part of this "Channel One" program. It is inlikely that inner city schools particiapate in this. And more afflunet schools = more affluent neighborhood = more affluent families = majority Republican leaning families.

OtakuPenguin
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posted 10-24-2004 11:47:30 PM
quote:
Zair obviously shouldn't have said:
I think the strange numbers have something to do with this as well. It is likely that only more affluent schools are part of this "Channel One" program. It is inlikely that inner city schools particiapate in this. And more afflunet schools = more affluent neighborhood = more affluent families = majority Republican leaning families.

Good job their skippy. Here in Co. Bluffs, Iowa, all three major high schools in the city play ChannelOne during 1st hour. It's mostly for MONEY. The schools get PAID to show ChannelOne, there's a contract for it. Myself and Chibidragon can vouch for the fact that Co. Bluffs is definately not an AFFLUENT town, and, since ChannelOne pays schools to show it, I imagine the richer schools would only use it for some sort of quasi-educational benefit.

That said, I get verbally flamed whenever I support the Right in school, in every class. So yes, this came as a shocker to this midwesterner.

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Demos
Pancake
posted 10-24-2004 11:52:59 PM
Perhaps you get flamed because the party supports state-enforced discrimination. Just my guess.
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Zair
The Imp
posted 10-24-2004 11:55:57 PM
quote:
OtakuPenguin had this to say about Knight Rider:
Good job their skippy.

It was pure speculation. The location scenario Alaan broached may still be valid though. Is your school in a suburb or an inner city?

Mr. Parcelan
posted 10-25-2004 12:02:13 AM
quote:
Demos thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Perhaps you get flamed because the party supports state-enforced discrimination. Just my guess.

State-enforced discrimination is preferrable to having no defense. Don't kid yourself: Kerry would be more interested in preserving the UN's opinion of itself than protecting American securities.

Demos
Pancake
posted 10-25-2004 12:02:37 AM
I call bullshit.

Besides, since when do we have to decide? Does NOT supporting a discriminatory bill take up monetary resources better put to Defense? NO. Not supporting the bill doesn't require manpower or money.

Demos fucked around with this message on 10-25-2004 at 12:04 AM.

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Mr. Parcelan
posted 10-25-2004 12:06:55 AM
quote:
So quoth Demos:
I call bullshit.

Besides, since when do we have to decide? Does NOT supporting a discriminatory bill take up monetary resources better put to Defense? NO. Not supporting the bill doesn't require manpower or money.


It requires focus and attitude.

Bush had the attitude to tell the UN to go screw itself in the interests of American security. Kerry's stance is all about pleasing forgotten, irrelevant nations so they won't say nasty things about us. I wouldn't be surprised if it came down to him selling out American values so that France and Germany can feel special for awhile.

Pure speculation, but not too far off.

The unfair taxes are also a big turn-off.

Drysart
Pancake
posted 10-25-2004 12:09:21 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan came out of the closet to say:
Kerry's stance is all about pleasing forgotten, irrelevant nations so they won't say nasty things about us.

...or fly airplanes into our buildings.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 10-25-2004 12:09:45 AM
Why this poll means very little.

Assumption: Children under the age of 16 or 17 tend to side with their parents on politics.

Fact: People aged 18-26 are overwhelmingly democratic voters.
Fact: Not many 18-26 year olds have teen age children.

Conclusion: This poll is meaningless, other than to tell you who the parents of children in highschool are going to vote for.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 10-25-2004 12:10:10 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Drysart!
...or fly airplanes into our buildings.

Gosh, you're right. We better have another look at Germany's To Do list.

Maradon!
posted 10-25-2004 12:10:42 AM
Wait, what the hell are you talking about?

And how the hell can you argue against republicans on the grounds of "state enforced discrimination" when 99.9% of segregational politics begins and ends with the racial-quota-supporting-NAACP-backed-less-welfare-if-you're-white democratic party?

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 10-25-2004 at 12:11 AM.

Demos
Pancake
posted 10-25-2004 12:10:44 AM
Yeah, the UN can go screw itself. Until now we've decided that we invaded because of exploitation of the UN's oil for food program.

And in the interest of American security? If Bush hadn't kicked out the weapons inspectors they would have found out they weren't a threat to security. Do you honestly think Kerry doesn't care about national security? What do you have to back this up? Because he wants others to help out so our own troops don't get blown into chunks?

Because despite what you might think, the US isn't infallible or invulnerable.

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Maradon!
posted 10-25-2004 12:12:08 AM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about Duck Tales:
...or fly airplanes into our buildings.

Yes, better set out to please those religious zealots who certainly won't bite the hand that feeds them, despite their indoctrined vow to do so, eh?

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 10-25-2004 at 12:12 AM.

Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 10-25-2004 12:12:25 AM
quote:
Maradon! thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Wait, what the hell are you talking about?

And how the hell can you argue against republicans on the grounds of "state enforced discrimination" when 99.9% of segregational politics begins and ends with the racial-quota-supporting-NAACP-backed-less-welfare-if-you're-white democratic party?


Mr. Parcelan
posted 10-25-2004 12:13:14 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Demos!
Because he wants others to help out so our own troops don't get blown into chunks?

Better get those French and German soldiers existant and out there.

Demos
Pancake
posted 10-25-2004 12:13:58 AM
Although personally I see affirmative action playing a smaller role in the future, its still in place because there is still a wide discrepency in terms of equal employment in the upper echelons of business.

Demos fucked around with this message on 10-25-2004 at 12:14 AM.

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Maradon!
posted 10-25-2004 12:15:24 AM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Mr. Parcelan said:
Pure speculation, but not too far off.

It is pure speculation. Why? Because "Kerry's Got A Plan" but he won't tell us what it is, or tell us what's wrong with our current plan. Just trust implicitly.

Maradon! fucked around with this message on 10-25-2004 at 12:16 AM.

Maradon!
posted 10-25-2004 12:16:00 AM
quote:
Demos had this to say about (_|_):
Although personally I see affirmative action playing a smaller role in the future, its still in place because there is still a wide discrepency in terms of equal employment in the upper echelons of business.

Oh wait, what happened to "segregational politics" being evil?

Demos
Pancake
posted 10-25-2004 12:16:43 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Tron:
Better get those French and German soldiers existant and out there.

I'm confused, are you saying they don't have a military?

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