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Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-12-2004 11:39:05 PM
I'm going to run across the street to Barnes and Noble real quick, and was looking for some good Fantasy suggestions. The only Fantasy books I've ever read are the Icewind Dale trilogy, The Hobbit+Lord of the Rings, the eight "original"(Fall, Winter, Spring, the Twins trilogy, Next Generation, and Summer) Dragonlance books, and some old Forgotten Realms book involving some fighter chick, a Halfling Bard, and a Lizardman Paladin from another dimension who couldn't talk. And that Eleminster dude everyone has a hard on about showed up once or twice. I read the last one when I was like eight and have no clue what it was called.

So, give me some suggestions! I'd perfer books that close their stories out in one book. I mean, books that involve more than one book are okay, but I'd rather avoid series like that one that everyone complains about that is up to book number 284928429048209428409482094 and none of the new books solve anything because it's all split up amongst nine different stories.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-12-2004 11:41:26 PM
Seriously, pick up A Game of Thrones.
Don't listen to Sean, it is a great book.
At least give it a try.
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-12-2004 11:45:05 PM
quote:
Zair impressed everyone with:
Seriously, pick up A Game of Thrones.
Don't listen to Sean, it is a great book.
At least give it a try.

Sean and I share many of the same likes and dislikes. We are like one being split into two! Like the movie Twins. I got all the good stuff, and he got the crap left over. But we're still one and the same.

I don't think I have a single thing in common with you, however. So! While I appreciate the suggestion and the will to help, I will have to go with what D says in this case.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-12-2004 11:45:50 PM
quote:
Snoota had this to say about dark elf butts:

I don't think I have a single thing in common with you, however. So! While I appreciate the suggestion and the will to help, I will have to go with what D says in this case.

But Parce and Bloodsage liked it.

Bloodsage

Maradon!
posted 04-12-2004 11:46:19 PM
Integral Trees by Larry Niven.

It's about people who live in a gas torus free-floating in space around a neutron star. It's really kinda cool.

Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 04-12-2004 11:47:53 PM
What sort of fantasy are you looking for? Comical fantasy? Epic or high fantasy? Youthful fantasy, or a more mature, gritty fantasy?


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-12-2004 11:48:50 PM
Mature, gritty! High fantasy! Epic fantasy! Get anything childish Fantasy near me that isn't called Willow and I'll scream!

Snoota fucked around with this message on 04-12-2004 at 11:49 PM.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-12-2004 11:50:34 PM
edit: woops

Zair fucked around with this message on 04-12-2004 at 11:51 PM.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-12-2004 11:51:16 PM
quote:
Snoota had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Mature, gritty! High fantasy! Get anything childish Fantasy near me that isn't called Willow and I'll scream!

The book I suggested is very mature and gritty. Plenty of sex and violence!

edit: ok I'll stop now, but you should give it a try.

Ctrl-Alt-Del
Pancake
posted 04-12-2004 11:52:49 PM
Legend of Huma, from Dragonlance.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 04-12-2004 11:53:14 PM
quote:
Snoota wrote this stupid crap:
Get anything childish Fantasy near me that isn't called Willow and I'll scream!

LOL

I can't help much then. My fantasy runs more toward Enchanted Forest Chronicles and fairy tale retellings than epic fantasy. The only epic fantasy series I read regularly that's gritty is Janny Wurts' Mistwraith series. It starts with Curse of the Mistwraith, and it's a good series, but a series is still a series. You might at least like picking up the first book, though, and see if you like it.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Death of Rats
Pancake
posted 04-12-2004 11:54:50 PM
A british sci fi comembdy seriers called Red Dwarf is pretty funny. I am into the Hell Boy books, and Carl Sagan's Contact is an awsome book, and there is always H.P. Lovecraft.
A particularly crafty sea lion is befuddling the Army Corps of Engineers, who have come to believe the 1,000-pound mammal is either from hell -- or from Harvard.
Synjari
Warrior Princess
Cookie Seraphim!
posted 04-13-2004 12:15:16 AM
Gritty and mature.. Glen Cook's Black Company series. =)
"Villiany wears many masks, none of which are more dangerous than virtue." - "Sleepy Hollow"
Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 04-13-2004 12:15:54 AM
Check out the Dark Elf Trilogy. Takes place before Icewind Dale trilogy, if I am remembering my chronology correctly. I read it before I read the IWD trilogy.

It is a good read

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-13-2004 12:28:47 AM
In an effort to not listen to a word any of you say, I picked up the Dark Knight Strikes Again graphic novel.

Along with Neverwhere. Can't go wrong with Batman and Neil Gaiman.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-13-2004 12:29:17 AM
God damn you, Snoota.
Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-13-2004 12:30:13 AM
I honestly went to pick up a good Fantasy book. But then I saw the Dark Knight graphic novel and had always wanted it, and was browsing the fantasy section and found the Neil Gaiman books before I found any of the suggestions.
Sean
posted 04-13-2004 12:34:24 AM
You're so fucking hopeless.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 04-13-2004 12:35:11 AM
Sacred Ground by Mercedes Lackey
- It's a modern story with lots of Native American shamanism mixed in. One book. She has a few other stand alone books that are good too.

Children of the Night, Burning Water, and Jinx High by Mercedes Lackey
- Modern fantasy again. These are the Diana Tregarde series. The first book (CotN) is the less likeable of the lot, but it does set up some of the stuff that's mentioned later.

The Colour of Magic, The Light Fantastic by Terry Pratchett
- The start of the Diskworld series, but these two lay the foundations and wrap up their storyline within themselves. Later books in the series do build off of each other, but they wrap up their main plots within themselves. This is some of the funniest fantasy out there.

Edit: And that's what I get for taking my time typing this out. Oh well, I'm sure you'll go there again.

Palador ChibiDragon fucked around with this message on 04-13-2004 at 12:36 AM.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Zair
The Imp
posted 04-13-2004 12:36:58 AM
Sean still has me on ignore.

He hates me more than he hates A Game of Thrones

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-13-2004 12:41:30 AM
<Snootay> SEAN!
<Snootay> Zair claims you hate him more than you hate A Game of Thrones. Is this true?
<Sean> A Game of Thrones would be entertaining if I was a little more tolerant of shitty authors. Zair would be entertaining if I was more tolerant of stupidity.
<Sean> I'm not sure which I hate more, shitty authors or stupidity.
MorbId
Pancake
posted 04-13-2004 12:45:16 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Synjari said:
Gritty and mature.. Glen Cook's Black Company series. =)

Definitely. They can be hard to find, but are worth picking up if you're at the bookstore again anytime soon.

MorbId fucked around with this message on 04-13-2004 at 12:45 AM.

Sean
posted 04-13-2004 12:45:35 AM
Way to ruin the surprise, Snoota.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-13-2004 12:45:40 AM
quote:
Snoota wrote this stupid crap:
<Snootay> SEAN!
<Snootay> Zair claims you hate him more than you hate A Game of Thrones. Is this true?
<Sean> A Game of Thrones would be entertaining if I was a little more tolerant of shitty authors. Zair would be entertaining if I was more tolerant of stupidity.
<Sean> I'm not sure which I hate more, shitty authors or stupidity.

Fuck, I didn't even think I was known enough to be hated.

Well, Sean is probably right about me, but don't listen to him about the book.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-13-2004 12:46:43 AM
quote:
From the book of Sean, chapter 3, verse 16:
Way to ruin the surprise, Snoota.

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wait, wait, wait.

Does Sean think I'm Zeke?

Sean
posted 04-13-2004 12:47:44 AM
Fixed.

Remember to have all pets spayed or neutered.

Sean fucked around with this message on 04-13-2004 at 12:52 AM.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 04-13-2004 12:53:15 AM
I hate Zair, but just because he's ignu'unt.

Anyways, a Game of Thrones is alright. You could try "The Scar" by China Mieville, but it's sort of confusing.

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-13-2004 12:54:37 AM
quote:
Zair had this to say about Robocop:
Fuck, I didn't even think I was known enough to be hated.

Well, Sean is probably right about me, but don't listen to him about the book.


Everyone is just sick of your anti Bush crusade. It's not to like him and even er to vote for someone else, and it's even decently to try to get people to see your point of view and not vote for him. But you go way beyond the parts and start blaming him for everything. At that point it stops being and nobody takes you seriously.

When you wake up in the morning, step out of bed, and stub your toe... it's not Bush's fault. When you're walking around the house bareful and step on a nail, Bush didn't plant it there to hurt your delicate nadir appendage.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 04-13-2004 12:56:28 AM
Snoota summed it up well, and without any spittle.
Freschel Spindrift
Caucasian
posted 04-13-2004 01:00:12 AM
Terry Brooks: Sword of Shanara, Elf Stones of Shanara, and Wishsong of Shanara

Tad Williams: Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn series (Dragon Bone Chair, Stone of Farewell, To Green Angle Tower). Tailchaser's Song

Mark E Rodgers: Samurai Cat series.

Sheri S Tepper: Jinian series (Jinian Footseer, Dervish Daughter, and Jinian Star-Eye)

That's all I can think of for right now.

Who's that crazy kook that's destroying the world. It's Zorc (That's me) It's Zorc and Pals.
Bakura: Did you forget our anniversary, again? (laughter)
Zorc: Yes, I was busy destroying the world (laughter) Slaughtering millions. (Laughter)
Bakura: That's my Zorc.
The blood of the innocents will flow without end. His name is Zorc, and he's destroying the world.
Zair
The Imp
posted 04-13-2004 01:02:06 AM
quote:
Snoota enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
Everyone is just sick of your anti Bush crusade. It's not to like him and even er to vote for someone else, and it's even decently to try to get people to see your point of view and not vote for him. But you go way beyond the parts and start blaming him for everything. At that point it stops being and nobody takes you seriously.

When you wake up in the morning, step out of bed, and stub your toe... it's not Bush's fault. When you're walking around the house bareful and step on a nail, Bush didn't plant it there to hurt your delicate nadir appendage.


I try to remain and rarely bring it up myself. When other people start a thread, I say my piece, but then try to keep it . I thought I had been pretty reasonable lately, except maybe in Naimah's recent thread, but I just stopped posting in that one, because I realized I was being unreasonable.

But also, its to dislike what I type, and not want to see it. So I can be with people having me on ignore, and it is probably better than them flaming my ass.

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-13-2004 01:07:05 AM
quote:
Zair impressed everyone with:
I thought I had been pretty reasonable lately

And therein lies the problem!

Because you're not.

Zair
The Imp
posted 04-13-2004 01:20:40 AM
quote:
Snoota obviously shouldn't have said:
And therein lies the problem!

Because you're not.


Noted.

Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 04-13-2004 03:02:07 AM
Pick up some Discworld novels you ass.


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 04-13-2004 03:26:28 AM
quote:
Black had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Pick up some Discworld novels
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 04-13-2004 03:28:11 AM
quote:
As I was going over the Kork and Kerry mountains, I saw Captain Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael, and his money he was counting:
[QB][/QB]
Don't censor me you capitalist pig.


Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 04-13-2004 03:28:59 AM
quote:
Black impressed everyone with:
Don't censor me
Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Snoota
Now I am become Death, shatterer of worlds
posted 04-13-2004 03:44:32 AM
The Dark Knight Strikes Again wasn't as good as Returns, but it was still a decent read. It seems like he made the story convoluted for the sake of making it convoluted to match the first one, as opposed to the first one where the odd, disjointed story telling added to the story and made way for a lot of great one liners from the TV personalities. In the second one it seemed to just be there to confuse the hell out of those reading it.

And the thing with Dick Grayson at the end seemed thrown on just to have an excuse to bring him into the story.

And when Wayne Manor blew up in the first one, it was supposed to have collapsed into the Batcave, destroying that too. But he still had the classic Batcave items like the giant penny and dinosaur.

There weren't as many good Batman lines in this one as in the first one, either. Really, the best Batman related line belonged to the Green Lantern.

Little guy: So that's your "Bruce"?
GL: Yeah. And he looks happy. That can't mean anything good.

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 04-13-2004 03:50:33 AM
I just finished rading a dark night strikes again.

Your choice was correct.

Id suggest getting as many books in RA Salvatores drizzt series as possible.

The cleric quintet is quite nice as well.

There this old fantasy book called magus I read in 6th grade that was cool, it was about a war between the druids and a sercret society called merlins, magic wasnt real but stuff like gunpowder was unknown to the rest of the world cept for china, they used knowledge of science to do stuff and the legends of that is medieval magic.

Very cool.

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 04-13-2004 03:52:29 AM
Yeah the bit you mentioned seemed unnecessarily tacked on. The series felt rushed, but was still good. I get the impression he probably intended to have more time (five comics, perhaps) but was pared down to a three-issue run. Far as I know, Dark Knight Returns told it's story in four or five comic-sized issues that were later collected as the one graphic novel.

My biggest beefs, though, were with some of the art, and the complete lack of background. How did Luthor and Brainiac take control and set up a fake President (it's not a spoiler, you find out halfway through issue one)? Why did the heroes all kowtow after Superman bent over? (post-Kingdom Come audiences expect the "why" behind things). Why did Supes ditch Lois (they allude to her being "fragile" but still).

The art thing that bugged me was that they robbed Batman of his bulk and made him bald. That was aggravating. And everyone was so damned skinny. This ain't damned anime, people.

As for the cave thing, he went into the rubble at the end of the original DKR and was setting up shop down there again. Least that's the impression I always had.

On the whole, the series was better than most, but it was a sequel. He implemented the other heroes reasonably well (Barry was moving at Wally speeds, though; Barry was never that fast, but I digress), the story was entertaining and in a similar vein to the first, but it was by no way as mind-blowingly wonderful as the original. If the original was a 10, then DKSB is a seven.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

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