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Topic: Super Smash Bros Melee Question
Fox
Loser
posted 06-23-2003 04:46:34 AM
Who is tougher Marth or Roy? They both seem to have equal movement and fighting, Marth looks cooler (like that counts for much heh) but Roys special sword technique looks like it does abit more dmg (but takes longer to do such extra dmg) as it would appear and also makes the opponent smoking afterwards. Lets just say for the sake of argument that the two people playing them are clones or whatever, equal game expertise.
"It takes an idiot to do cool things, thats why its cool."
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than to be loved for what I'm not."
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 06-23-2003 04:51:22 AM
Roy looks cooler.

Discussion over.

[ 06-23-2003: Message edited by: Black Mage ]



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 06-23-2003 05:50:32 AM
Marth is Faster, Roy is stronger. They also both have a special quirk about how they do damage.

Marth does more damage if he hits with the tip of his sword, as he's a fencer. Roy, on the other hand, does more damage if he hits with the middle of his sword, as he's supposed to wield a broad-sword type weapon.

There isn't much of a difference between them, but it's there.

Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 06-23-2003 06:11:03 AM
Roy has fire and does more damage. Marth is an idiot. Roy wins.
Cheese
Pancake
posted 06-23-2003 07:51:59 AM
Whee, me and my little brother play with those characters sometimes and make them do yaoi-riffic stuff! I mean, just look at the way Roy grabs Marth!
**~*Pink Sugar Heart Attack!*~**
Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 06-23-2003 08:05:24 AM
... There is no god...
Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 06-23-2003 08:13:05 AM
quote:
How.... Mooj.... uughhhhhh:
... There is no god...

Agreed.

The World is Yours
Aury
My hair is a deadly weapon
posted 06-23-2003 10:11:37 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Liam!
Agreed.

And with chibimoon as his/her new sigpic...*quietly cries*

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 06-23-2003 11:03:01 AM
quote:
Liam attempted to be funny by writing:
Agreed.

Her poor little brother.

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 06-23-2003 11:42:58 AM
Roy rocks.
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Reyolen
Wanders too much for a custom title
posted 06-23-2003 01:16:55 PM
I like them both. It's basically as other people said: Marth is faster, Roy is stronger. I think Marth looks really cool if you change his color to white or black, but I win more often with Roy.
CBTao
Pancake
posted 06-23-2003 01:19:56 PM
in experience in melee, I've found that speed outweighs hitting power, and Marth is my main character, I particularly enjoy the agily he offers, to the point where the only person my friend can even connect hits on me with is Sheik.

power isn't always victory, tho...I wish I had the flaming up attack of roy.

Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 06-23-2003 04:25:02 PM
i prefer Roy over Marth because he's not quite as twitchy.

the timing of how Roy swings his sword is much closer to the timing on Link and i'm able to get a good feel for the swings as Roy. with Marth i just can't get the timing right.

but of course, Adult Link > all.

Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 06-23-2003 04:29:54 PM
I have a friend that plays Marth sometimes and just does that little counter attack thing over and over. It sucks
Gains
Pancake
posted 06-23-2003 05:25:03 PM
Roy's Flame Sword attack can instant KO nearly any enemy when done at full strength. Marth's hold B attack is significantly weaker.

As for speed, his attacks are a little quicker but not so much as to give him a large advantage over Roy. (In my opinion, the speed difference is only a small bit bigger than that between Dr. Mario and Mario)

Also, even though Marth can dress up as Elvis, the true king is Roy.

OUEN! DAI - SEI - KOU!
Addy
posted 06-23-2003 05:40:34 PM
Peach owns you all.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-23-2003 05:53:32 PM
quote:
Mr Gainsborough obviously shouldn't have said:
Roy's Flame Sword attack can instant KO nearly any enemy when done at full strength. Marth's hold B attack is significantly weaker.

As for speed, his attacks are a little quicker but not so much as to give him a large advantage over Roy. (In my opinion, the speed difference is only a small bit bigger than that between Dr. Mario and Mario)

Also, even though Marth can dress up as Elvis, the true king is Roy.


Their hold B attack does exactly the same thing at full power. Instant KO. And if the enemy walks into it when it *MAKES* you release the charge, they deserved the instant KO.

The difference is that Marth's does a lot less damage until the final bit (And it does less damage at the end, as stated earlier), however, Roy's takes MUCH MUCH longer to build to full, and if you DO let it build to full, you take about ~10% damage.

I prefer Marth, only because Roy NEVER touches me.

Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 06-23-2003 06:00:24 PM
Uh, the hold B attack...never works.

"HEY GUYS, STAND HERE FOR TWENTY SECONDS. PLEASE. DON'T MOVE OR HIT ME."

Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-23-2003 06:01:38 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Lenlalron Flameblaster wrote:
Uh, the hold B attack...never works.

"HEY GUYS, STAND HERE FOR TWENTY SECONDS. PLEASE. DON'T MOVE OR HIT ME."


And the counter is easily countered by a grab.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 06-23-2003 06:12:01 PM
I think you people have too little faith in the abilities of a guy to time the Hold B techniques. As I recall, I was quite able to whip it out against a great deal of people over at Nae and UBT's the last time we all got together for it.
Mr. Parcelan
posted 06-23-2003 06:14:13 PM
quote:
Mooj painfully thought these words up:
I was quite able to whip it out against a great deal of people over at Nae and UBT's

Only because they didn't notice.

Nwist, Who?
Nwist
posted 06-23-2003 06:15:39 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis was listening to Cher while typing:
And the counter is easily countered by a grab.

Yeah, I know. Unless they do it in mid-air. It's near invunerability in that case.

Y.O.T.C
No longer a Towel Girl
posted 06-23-2003 06:17:20 PM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Addy wrote:
Peach owns you all.

Nah, Zelda is god.

Mooj
Scorned Fanboy
posted 06-23-2003 06:21:03 PM
Considering how some of the people I whalloped are posting in this thread, I think they deserve to be ribbed more than me.

Edit: Okay, one person... still!

[ 06-23-2003: Message edited by: Mooj ]

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 06-23-2003 08:12:36 PM
It's all about Link. Or Jigglypuff
Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-23-2003 08:13:17 PM
quote:
Kinanik's account was hax0red to write:
It's all about Link. Or Jigglypuff

Link? You mean the guy that any tard can use and win with?

I prefer skill, and attacks that don't take up half the god damned screen, thanks.

[ 06-23-2003: Message edited by: Delphi Aegis ]

Mr. Parcelan
posted 06-23-2003 08:16:00 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis thought about the meaning of life:
Link? You mean the guy that any tard can use and win with?

I prefer skill, and attacks that don't take up half the god damned screen, thanks.


Your Link envy is so obvious. You don't even make an attempt to hide it.

Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 06-23-2003 08:18:01 PM
Delphi has it backwards.

Any tard can seemingly use Marth or Roy very well, but people good with Link are in short order around here.

[ 06-23-2003: Message edited by: Tegadil ]

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-23-2003 08:19:38 PM
Link tries to get back on the platform with that wonderful swirl.

Down+B. Your attack is not only countered, but I hit you again, and you tend to die.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 06-23-2003 08:20:29 PM
quote:
Delphi Aegis wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Their hold B attack does exactly the same thing at full power. Instant KO. And if the enemy walks into it when it *MAKES* you release the charge, they deserved the instant KO.

Uh...Marth's Shield Breaker is NOT an instant KO. I have gotten it off at full power on numerous occasions and only did minimal damage and knockback.

Perhaps if it hits with the tip of his sword it is, as I didn't know that their damage depended on where the sword impacted the enemy.


Either way, Roy is also pretty fast in his own right.


The biggest two differences between the two are Roy's power, and Marth's light-weight.

Roy is too heavy and has hardly any recovery ability at all. He doesn't get knocked as far, though.

Marth, on the other hand, Has much greater recovery, but get knocked much farther.

I'd say that they are fairly balanced, and it's really more a matter of playstyle and preference.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piƱa coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Gains
Pancake
posted 06-23-2003 08:21:01 PM
quote:
So quoth Y.O.T.G.:
Nah, Zelda is god.

Unfortunately for you John, everytime you played as Zelda we whomped you as Peach

THE MARIO VIXEN ROCKS!

[ 06-23-2003: Message edited by: Mr Gainsborough ]

OUEN! DAI - SEI - KOU!
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 06-23-2003 08:31:17 PM
My favorite characters to play:

1) Ganondorf
2) Dr. Mario
3) Shiek



Time was never on my side.
So on I wait my whole lifetime.

Gains
Pancake
posted 06-23-2003 08:34:46 PM
As long as we're on the topic of Melee...

What is the most efficient way of getting the "No-Damage Clear" Bonus.

I got to the 12th fight in All-Star mode with DK without taking damage, then Falco shot me...the ground pound was working so nice too.

(Trying to get the Diskun trohpy if you hadn't guessed...this is last bonus.)

OUEN! DAI - SEI - KOU!
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 06-23-2003 08:37:49 PM
quote:
Mr Gainsborough had this to say about Duck Tales:
What is the most efficient way of getting the "No-Damage Clear" Bonus.

Don't get hit.

Alleria Qui'farush
Chica!
posted 06-23-2003 08:48:54 PM
I like to use Samus, Link, and sometimes Ganondorf. Super Smash Brothers is a very fun game to play.
Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 06-23-2003 09:11:24 PM
Captain Falcon!
Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 06-23-2003 09:12:16 PM
Oh, and if Delphi says it, it must be true
Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Skaw
posted 06-23-2003 09:15:38 PM
My best character is Luigi
My favorite is Mr. Game and Watch
Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 06-23-2003 09:22:42 PM
Dens' is right about Marth, Delphi is very wrong. Marth's attack fully charged will not insta-KO anything. Only two moves in the game really do it, and it's Roy's fully charged attack and Jigglypuff's Rest.

And really, what the Marth vs. Roy thing comes down to, is this:

Speed vs. Strength

Marth is way faster then Roy, however Roy is stronger.

PS, all the characters need skill to be good with them. Link has his disadvantages, and it's slowness and lack of JUMP.

The most unbalanced character is still Fox however. He has speed, and tons of strength to boot. He can knock you out most anytime.

Peach rawks, so does Sheik/Zelda (Switching is important )

And honestly, in my opinion speed is the most important thing in this game. (That includes with attacks, so Cpt. Falcon is out cause man, are his attacks pitifully slow.)

Only one good slow character, and that's Samus due to her great evasion.

The World is Yours
Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 06-23-2003 09:24:09 PM
quote:
Nwizzle Fo' Shizzle probably says this to all the girls:
Yeah, I know. Unless they do it in mid-air. It's near invunerability in that case.

Air dodges, foo.

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