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Death of Rats
Pancake
posted 03-29-2003 11:38:11 PM
Customer walks up to the counter

Me-Hello Sir, how can i help you today?

Customers- Hi, I would like a sandwich.

Me-stands ther waiting, ...

Customers-...

Me- ...

Customers-...

Me-... ummm, What type of sandwich would you like?

Customers-gives me a startled look Oh! umm, I'll take...

Why do customers think that we can mind read? I hate when they do that, and I get that so much. I swear, if I could read minds, I would notbe working as a deli clerk at a grociery store. And also, I know this is proberly to much to ask, but for once I would like to hear, " Can I please have..." instead of, i want this, give me that, Grhhhhh. Or how about when they spend 10 mins waiting in line, and then make a big fuss about being next, and then don't know what to get cause they where seeing what to get while wait. IDIOTS!

A particularly crafty sea lion is befuddling the Army Corps of Engineers, who have come to believe the 1,000-pound mammal is either from hell -- or from Harvard.
Steven Steve
posted 03-29-2003 11:57:00 PM
One time at a Taekwondo tournament I walked up to this hotdog stand and I was all like "I'd like a medium hot dog please," and the woman was all, "What good manners you have!" and I was like, "hehe"

I wonder if people go up there and say, "GIMME A HOT DOG OR I'LL ROUNDHOUSE KICK YOU IN THE HIP," or something.

"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 12:13:15 AM
"How long does your 12-Hour sale last?"
"I'm not even going to touch that one, lady. Here's your sign."

EDIT: *chick hands me a credit card*
"May I see your ID?"
"Huh?! Why? Oh, that right, I didn't sign it yet."
*she politely takes the card back, signs it right in front of my face, then hands it back to me*
"...now I really want to see your ID."

[ 03-30-2003: Message edited by: Mr. Glass ]

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Burger
BANNED!
posted 03-30-2003 12:22:52 AM
I almost always tip. I ALWAYS say please, thank you, I almost always smile, and I try to put a warm tone in my voice.

People work shitty jobs, get treated like ass, and the least they deserve is some freaking kindness and warmth.

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Death of Rats
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 12:25:05 AM
As one of my work mates said "We're just glorifyed servants."
A particularly crafty sea lion is befuddling the Army Corps of Engineers, who have come to believe the 1,000-pound mammal is either from hell -- or from Harvard.
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 03-30-2003 12:34:39 AM
quote:
The Burger had this to say about pies:
I almost always tip. I ALWAYS say please, thank you, I almost always smile, and I try to put a warm tone in my voice.

People work shitty jobs, get treated like ass, and the least they deserve is some freaking kindness and warmth.



I agree with that.

What I DON'T agree with, is how DoR handled the situation. Whether the customer tells you what they want or not, you do NOT just stare at them and say nothing.

If they say "I want a sandwich" then you immediately ask them which kind.

When you can do your job correctly, THEN you can bitch about customers.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Nina
posted 03-30-2003 12:38:26 AM
Not everyone has 100 freaking charisma, yanno. Some people get embarassed just at ordering something from a complete stranger... So yes, I'll agree with monkeyboy here.
Death of Rats
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 12:47:51 AM
Shrugs, I wait cause to many times, i'll ask them what they want and they get mad at me for being impatient with them. So now I wait to make sure their not going to say more.
A particularly crafty sea lion is befuddling the Army Corps of Engineers, who have come to believe the 1,000-pound mammal is either from hell -- or from Harvard.
Hireko
Kill a fish before breakfast each day
posted 03-30-2003 04:44:58 AM
Some customers are better than others. I've found shit jobs can be really nice if they're very late night with working people.

For istance, I work the midnight shift at a laundromat. With the exception of a few drunk idiots, most people are extremely curteous and patient, even if there's an accent/language barrier.

Those who dance are thought insane by those who can't hear the music.
Lyinar Ka`Bael
Are you looking at my pine tree again?
posted 03-30-2003 05:16:37 AM
I think DoR could get by without immediately saying something so long as he stood with an attention and inquiring look on his face and it was only a few moments.

Sometimes on the phone someone calls and isn't specific and I leave a small amount of time for them to specify before I ask. They do get mad if you rush them, even when that's not your intention.


Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin

Jewel
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 08:22:09 AM
I work with people alot and with time i learned do your job and dont mind them.
Yes they expect you to read mind and to remember eachtime they pass so you know what they want..i see about 300 peoples in one day (i work in a gas station with a store) so no, i cant remember everything, except for really really regular customers. They need to understand that we are humans too and that we got a life that dont always go like we want, just like their lives.
With time i realized that some people expect life to go their way and they dont even care about the guy behind them. I rarely get a "Please" or even a "thank you". They often throw their credit cards on the counter and dont even listen to you after asking a question. When you get 90% of customers in a day acting like that, no wonder people at customers services end up cracking and start screaming at people and go nuts.

I still love my job, and hopefully people will understand no one is perfect and we all need to help each other.

Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 03-30-2003 10:43:21 AM
I get that a good bit, people asking for sandwiches/soup and they don't specify.

But hey, I just ask them what they'd like after 3 seconds or so.

They do it with coffee all the time. "I'd like a coffee." Then I have to ask size, what's in it, etc etc.

Glorified Servants, kinda, except there's a nice pay check.

The World is Yours
Burger
BANNED!
posted 03-30-2003 11:11:22 AM
quote:
Liam thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
I get that a good bit, people asking for sandwiches/soup and they don't specify.

But hey, I just ask them what they'd like after 3 seconds or so.

They do it with coffee all the time. "I'd like a coffee." Then I have to ask size, what's in it, etc etc.

Glorified Servants, kinda, except there's a nice pay check.


Timmy Ho's?

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Canadian Mountee
Rumble Pak+FMV Sequence=FUN!
posted 03-30-2003 11:14:11 AM
quote:
The Burger had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Timmy Ho's?

Yes.

The World is Yours
Kermitov
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 11:33:35 AM
quote:
Mr. Glass had this to say about Captain Planet:
"How long does your 12-Hour sale last?"
"I'm not even going to touch that one, lady. Here's your sign."

EDIT: *chick hands me a credit card*
"May I see your ID?"
"Huh?! Why? Oh, that right, I didn't sign it yet."
*she politely takes the card back, signs it right in front of my face, then hands it back to me*
"...now I really want to see your ID."



Except that if the card is signed, according to your merchant agreement with the credit card company, you can't ask for ID.

Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 11:49:33 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Kermitov:

Except that if the card is signed, according to your merchant agreement with the credit card company, you can't ask for ID.

Any Joe Guy who steals a credit card can sign the back of it.

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Kermitov
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 11:55:41 AM
quote:
Mr. Glass painfully thought these words up:
Any Joe Guy who steals a credit card can sign the back of it.

yep.

Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 03-30-2003 11:56:21 AM
Oh yes, because asking always helps the situation...

Me : "Hi, can I help you?"
Them : "I will have a coffee"
Me : "What size would you like?"
Them : "A coffee"
Me : "Yes, but what size"
Them "... ummm... just a coffee"
Me : "No... what... size... coffee... would you like?"
Them : "They come in sizes?"
Me : "... ... yes sir, they come in sizes; small, medium, large and extra-large"
Them : "Oh, ok... I'll have a medium"
Me : "And what would you like in your coffee?"
Them : "Medium please"
Me : "... *twitch* ... medium coffee with two creams and two sweeteners it is, here you go"

My logic is, if they don't know or wont tell mewhat they want, they are leaving it up to me to decide for them what they are going to eat

I do not walk into a McDonalds and say "I will have a combo with a pop please" and then stare blankly as if I gave the person behind the counter more than enough info to get my food

Hell, I once had a guy storm out because I was asking him too many questions such as "What kind of sandwich?" and "What kind of bun would you like?"

He ended up yelling at me "Can't you just hit a button and give me a sandwich!?" and stormed out

I need the ability to cause sterility in people at will..

Burger
BANNED!
posted 03-30-2003 12:15:50 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Vorago!
I need the ability to cause sterility in people at will..

wear steel-toed boots. With spikes.

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Death of Rats
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 12:48:59 PM
I know Vorgo, I get customers like that alot too.

I ussaly very nice to customers, as a matter of fact, customers are always turnign in comment card on how nice and helpful I am, its just, after working there for 2 years, I have just turned cynical with some of the customers. And it is almost impossible to not to become cynical.

When a checker had been transferd over to my store, She remarked at how many angry, stupid people came in, and all the other checkers agreeed, no checker had ever seen as many smacktards come into my store as anywhere else.

We have alot of elderly people come into the store, and a whole hell alot of them get very grumpy if you say or do the wrong thing, I've had a customer get angry with me because she thought I was putting the meat into the bag the wrong way and proceded to tell me how to do my job. There is another customer, who, everytime he comes in, complains about everything. He's made several checkers and baggers cry cause hes been so bad. I had him expolode on me because he had 3 full bags and I asked him if he would like carry out service. And then yseterday, while I was walking into work before I started, I had a man walk behind me, and, well, I'll show you the conversation that prespired...

Him- Why do you ead that stuff?

Me-what? I turn around to look at him, I'm also carrying a sci-fi book in my hand

Him- Why do you read that fantasy star trek, mumbo jumbo when you have the real thing like a girlfriend or god.

Me- I do have a girlfriend and life sir. I like fantasy books cause it stirs up the imagination and is a good way to distract one's self from the real world.

Him-Snorts, Its just a waste, it rots your brain and distracts you from what is important, stuff like work and god. You should read the bible.

And one other thing is, that my store seems to be a magnent for the highly religiose figures, not to mention the most of the people that work there is highly devote, but the thing is i have my own religion and some of the checkers found out. Now, some of the more devote ones know (I think they must go to the same church that some of the checkers go to.) and have been trying to convert me. It pisses me off to no end.

A particularly crafty sea lion is befuddling the Army Corps of Engineers, who have come to believe the 1,000-pound mammal is either from hell -- or from Harvard.
Mightion Defensor
posted 03-30-2003 12:57:41 PM
Me: May I have your telephone number, belonging with the area code?
Customer: Uh.....

(This is never a good sign.)

Me: May I have your e-mail address, please?
Customer: Uh... schmuck69.
Me: ...at?
C: Oh! At AOL.

That really gets me, for some reason... why do AOL user assume that everyone on the planet has a AOL e-mail address?

Customer: Hi, I'm having trouble with this computer thingy, but I know nothing about them, and my husband, who can make computers out of wet seaweed, isn't here right now, but he asked me to call and fix this problem... something about a controller or something....

Help me lord Simon, you're my only hope...
Another pet peeve of mine - people who have the technically incompetent members of their family call us for support...

I could go on for hours...

Burger
BANNED!
posted 03-30-2003 01:07:08 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Death of Rats:
Him- Why do you ead that stuff?

Me-what? I turn around to look at him, I'm also carrying a sci-fi book in my hand

Him- Why do you read that fantasy star trek, mumbo jumbo when you have the real thing like a girlfriend or god.

Me- I do have a girlfriend and life sir. I like fantasy books cause it stirs up the imagination and is a good way to distract one's self from the real world.

Him-Snorts, Its just a waste, it rots your brain and distracts you from what is important, stuff like work and god. You should read the bible.



And that's why I memorized a few passages out of the bible. If anyone ever starts a religion conversation, and how I should turn to God, or read the Holy Bible, I just quote one, and let them derive their own conclusions.

Although the bible isn't all that bad, granted, yes, there's better fiction, and better comedy, but it's the best of both worlds. It's ficticious comedy played with a straight face.

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 03-30-2003 01:09:38 PM
quote:
ACES! Another post by Death of Rats:
Him-Snorts, Its just a waste, it rots your brain and distracts you from what is important, stuff like work and god. You should read the bible.

Someone I know is like that. Every time he see's my fantasy literature collection, he stares at it like the books were signed by Lucifer himself.

Mog
not really a mmembe rof tis boered
posted 03-30-2003 01:17:26 PM
but then again onte h toehr side of the coffee comes in mroe the one size? problem is eh legitidamit reason for the custoemr to be mad

I was at Burger king the toehr day, adn iw as all "can i please haev a frozen coke" adn they asked me what size, so i said small, adn they where all "im sorry bbut frozen cokes dotn coem in smalls, only meduim and large" and they said that liek they where really anoyd by my mistake

Not that im sayign custemrs cant be really anoying, but their proplems on btoh sides of the fence


Regret calamities if you can thereby help the sufferer; if not, attend to your own work and allready the evil begins to be repaired
- Self Rreliance
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 03-30-2003 01:31:28 PM
quote:
Lyinar Ka`Bael had this to say about Pirotess:
I think DoR could get by without immediately saying something so long as he stood with an attention and inquiring look on his face and it was only a few moments.

Sometimes on the phone someone calls and isn't specific and I leave a small amount of time for them to specify before I ask. They do get mad if you rush them, even when that's not your intention.



That's fine. A moment given to see if they will continue is perfectly acceptable.

Just staring at them until you get sick of the silence is not.

Liam's example is correct.

If they think you are rushing them, that's irrelevant. Your job is to take their order, not to sit there and stare at them like they're a moron (whether or not they are) when they begin to order.

I don't always say please when I order something somewhere, but I ALWAYS, ALWAYS say thank you. I've worked in retail, and I know people who've worked in food service before. I try to treat the employees of such establishments like people, because I know that I would want the same.

The thing is though, Death of Rats, you are in the customer service industry.

Customer service.

You cannot expect the customers to cater to YOUR needs. That's not their jobs. YOUR job is to do what you can to get them what they need and then help the next customer. All the while being as polite as possible.

Once you can understand, and perform your job accurately, THEN you can have the right to bitch about customers. Yours was not an example of such.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 03-30-2003 01:44:22 PM
If a customer wont/can't treat me as a human being, then they don't get treated as one by myself either

We get some religious... weirdos at our store from time to time

They give out little pamphlets detailing how we are all sinners that are damned to hell unless we worhip their religion as a tip

I would get more use out of a quarter

Sometimes they leave little books on the toilet tanks, little picture books...

I am not kidding about the following one either...

This one, we kept it in the store for like a week for laughs, detailed a man who did not accept Jesus into his heart, went to prison for life for no reason, got raped by this huge white guy, got AIDS, accepted Jesus into his heart, and died happy

Granted, when your religion has "Worship us or suffer anal rape"... well, that just HAS to work. Still pretty funny though

Or damn... this one psycho I had

She walks in, tells me what coffee she wants... followed with
"I see you aren't selling any rosemarys, but it's too late to change now"
Well, I assmed I hadn't quite heard right, so I continue with the order...
"I'm glad I don't know what it's like to be on the wrong team without enough time to convert"
Yeah, I was pretty concerned by this point
So I complete her order, and as she leaves she says, cheerful as ever... "My, wont business be bad when the godless sinners of the world die from smallpox and anthrax"
And then she left

I swear, it had to have been a full moon or something

sigeA ihpleD
.raewrednu ruoy tuoba gnihtynA .gnihtyna em ksA .elcaro ehT .thgir s'tahT .ihpleD
posted 03-30-2003 02:30:43 PM
I swear to god, if someone tried to convert me, or something while I was out, I'd fucking flip out on them.

I've got enough pent up annoyance from the TV spouting "omgs u all gonna die" bullshit that I think I'd make someone break down and cry if they tried anything like above.

"You should read the bible."
"No, you should. How many times does it condradict itself? Or maybe, what about the fact that I'm god? Hell, even you're god when you think about it enough. But wait! You're in organized religion. You don't think. Sorry."

.tniop doog ylriaf a edam ihpleD :hteD
.tniop yreve no tcerroc %001 si ihpleD :suiraD
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 03-30-2003 02:38:39 PM
quote:
sigeA ihpleD said this about your mom:

"No, you should. How many times does it condradict itself? Or maybe, what about the fact that I'm god? Hell, even you're god when you think about it enough. But wait! You're in organized religion. You don't think. Sorry."

Yep. Blasphemy is just SO cool.

[Edit: By the way, thanks for the insult. I really appreciate it.]

[ 03-30-2003: Message edited by: Densetsu ]

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
sigeA ihpleD
.raewrednu ruoy tuoba gnihtynA .gnihtyna em ksA .elcaro ehT .thgir s'tahT .ihpleD
posted 03-30-2003 02:39:24 PM
quote:
When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Densetsu said:
Yep. Blasphemy is just SO cool.

So is forcing your beliefs on someone else who doesn't give a damn.

.tniop doog ylriaf a edam ihpleD :hteD
.tniop yreve no tcerroc %001 si ihpleD :suiraD
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 03-30-2003 02:42:39 PM
quote:
sigeA ihpleD had this to say about Duck Tales:
So is forcing your beliefs on someone else who doesn't give a damn.

'Forcing beliefs' and 'trying to convert' are totally different things.

Most people I know are completely polite when they ask people about God. If the person says they're not interested, they don't push it.

But, we're all just brainless sheep trying to force you to believe what we want, right?

Damn us.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
sigeA ihpleD
.raewrednu ruoy tuoba gnihtynA .gnihtyna em ksA .elcaro ehT .thgir s'tahT .ihpleD
posted 03-30-2003 02:44:49 PM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Densetsu wrote:
'Forcing beliefs' and 'trying to convert' are totally different things.

Most people I know are completely polite when they ask people about God. If the person says they're not interested, they don't push it.

But, we're all just brainless sheep trying to force you to believe what we want, right?

Damn us.


Thanks for reading more into what I meant.

I was speaking of DoR's "Scifi books fill your head with goo!" and Voragos "All you sinners will be consumed when smallpox and anthrax.." examples.

Yeah, there are some good religious people, but the asininely stupid ones nearly cancel them out.

.tniop doog ylriaf a edam ihpleD :hteD
.tniop yreve no tcerroc %001 si ihpleD :suiraD
Burger
BANNED!
posted 03-30-2003 02:46:01 PM
vorago, I don't know what it is about religious fanatics, but at least you get the interesting ones.

All I get are the fucking jehova's witnesses. By the gross.

I have more copies of "the watchtower" than I know what to do with. I think I'll make a bonfire sometime this summer, with nothing but jehova's witness propaganda.

Seriously, I've probably got over 50 copies. and that's from 20+ DIFFERENT witnesses.

Bite me.

No, Really. Bite me.

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 03-30-2003 02:47:36 PM
quote:
sigeA ihpleD had this to say about Robocop:

Yeah, there are some good religious people, but the asininely stupid ones nearly cancel them out.

That has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with 'Organized Religion,' asshole.

Get over yourself.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
vertue
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 03:04:51 PM
quote:
Death of Rats enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:
I know Vorgo, I get customers like that alot too.

I ussaly very nice to customers, as a matter of fact, customers are always turnign in comment card on how nice and helpful I am, its just, after working there for 2 years, I have just turned cynical with some of the customers. And it is almost impossible to not to become cynical.

When a checker had been transferd over to my store, She remarked at how many angry, stupid people came in, and all the other checkers agreeed, no checker had ever seen as many smacktards come into my store as anywhere else.

We have alot of elderly people come into the store, and a whole hell alot of them get very grumpy if you say or do the wrong thing, I've had a customer get angry with me because she thought I was putting the meat into the bag the wrong way and proceded to tell me how to do my job. There is another customer, who, everytime he comes in, complains about everything. He's made several checkers and baggers cry cause hes been so bad. I had him expolode on me because he had 3 full bags and I asked him if he would like carry out service. And then yseterday, while I was walking into work before I started, I had a man walk behind me, and, well, I'll show you the conversation that prespired...

Him- Why do you ead that stuff?

Me-what? I turn around to look at him, I'm also carrying a sci-fi book in my hand

Him- Why do you read that fantasy star trek, mumbo jumbo when you have the real thing like a girlfriend or god.

Me- I do have a girlfriend and life sir. I like fantasy books cause it stirs up the imagination and is a good way to distract one's self from the real world.

Him-Snorts, Its just a waste, it rots your brain and distracts you from what is important, stuff like work and god. You should read the bible.


***That has happened to me as well, since I read a lot of Fantasy. They usually stop bothering me about it when I start quoting bible verses to them though. In Greek. And when I mention the fact that I am a Bible Scholar as well as a Sci Fi and Fantasy writer, they usually don't know what to say.

And one other thing is, that my store seems to be a magnent for the highly religiose figures, not to mention the most of the people that work there is highly devote, but the thing is i have my own religion and some of the checkers found out. Now, some of the more devote ones know (I think they must go to the same church that some of the checkers go to.) and have been trying to convert me. It pisses me off to no end.


Awe, they just care about you.

Really, it can't be all that bad (unless they are trying to scare you into it with hellfire and brimstone) I've had people try to convert me to their denominations before, abiet without much success on their part. Besides, their just doing what they think their supposed to do. Me, I prefer civilized discussion. That way you get all the info without me shoving it down your throat, and then you decide what to do with it.

What religon are you, btw?

Jeremiah 48:6: Flee! Save yourselves! Be like a wild ass in the desert!

"How can you ever hope to know the Beloved
Without becoming in every cell the Lover?
And when you are the Lover at last, you don't care.
Whatever you know or don't - only Love is real."

Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet

vertue
Pancake
posted 03-30-2003 03:08:33 PM
quote:
sigeA ihpleD had this to say about Knight Rider:
Thanks for reading more into what I meant.

I was speaking of DoR's "Scifi books fill your head with goo!" and Voragos "All you sinners will be consumed when smallpox and anthrax.." examples.

Yeah, there are some good religious people, but the asininely stupid ones nearly cancel them out.


Yeah, and I've met non-religious, or anti-religious people who are even worse. Bah, you can't get past people like Mother Teresa, Gandhi, and a host of others. It's amazing how people see something bad that is inherent to most humans, and immediatly blame religon.

Jeremiah 48:6: Flee! Save yourselves! Be like a wild ass in the desert!

"How can you ever hope to know the Beloved
Without becoming in every cell the Lover?
And when you are the Lover at last, you don't care.
Whatever you know or don't - only Love is real."

Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet

Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 03-30-2003 03:10:42 PM
You get people who just don't understand things.

But the truth is, at the core, the reason people try to convert others is because they care about them. They think it's the right thing to do.

Can you really be an asshole to someone who's just doing what they think is right?

Even if you run into fanatics or people who don't understand things, there's still more civilized ways of handling the situation.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Steven Steve
posted 03-30-2003 03:29:45 PM
"Religion" is more like "set of morals and values," and if that set of morals and values tells me I can't read sci-fi, or do whatever the hell, then they don't deserve to be followed by me. I wouldn't be able to work in customer service in a religious area, because if someone gave me that anthrax/smallpox deal I'd jump over the counter and rip their heads off.
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posted 03-30-2003 04:08:54 PM
The other day theis two guys came up to me adn soem freinds after school, asked if he could show us a rope trick, tied a slipknot and asked us to try and see if we can open it, I went first, pulled on the wrong end, opened it right away, he got all mad, then retied the kot and conntiued his speach on how the rope symbolizes are ascensiont o heavena dn the knot is our sins stopping us from getting to heavn, he then asekd soemone else to try and open it ONLY BY PULLING ONE SpECIFIC POINT ThAT COULNT POSIBLE OPEN IT (ofcourse he left that part out) anyway, my christian friend tried and failed, and they thoguh they ahd made theri point

one of the poeple with my was buddhist, they asekd him where buddha is right now,a dn ebfore he could open his moutht ehy said he was rottign in the gorund, btu nto like jesus, who was in heaven, but jesus was in heavan, theirfor thjeris no point to buddism

the buddist debate wen tonf or a little whilethen they went back to theri jesus or hell thing, and hwo theirs only two palces, heaven and hell, i asked abotu purgatory, one fo them said ya, theirs that too, but its not that great, theother oen said it didnt exist, and we walked over, the two religous poepel tryign to convert us wehre arguing with eachother and stuff


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posted 03-30-2003 04:18:15 PM
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Yeah, and I've met non-religious, or anti-religious people who are even worse. Bah, you can't get past people like Mother Teresa, Gandhi, and a host of others. It's amazing how people see something bad that is inherent to most humans, and immediatly blame religon.

I don't give a shit about religion, what you believe, or who you worship, or whatever.

It's not my place to say "omfg, u must worship THIS guy, or suffer horrible fate!", and neither is yours.

If I want to join a church or whatever, I'll come to you. Don't try to convert me. I don't walk up to people and say "Your entire belief system is wrong, there is no god, and I can PROOVE it!".

The least I ask is the same respect for me. They start spouting bullshit about simple things like reading a SciFi book is going to melt my brain and make me go to hell, that's when I get snippity.

And the pure and simple fact is that MORE people have been killed over beliefs and religion then any other cause in the entire history of the world. Hello, Crusades. How ya doin, 9/11.

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Steven Steve
posted 03-30-2003 07:09:06 PM
Whenever a customer starts saying that stuff to you, just ask him to prove that God exists, then in the middle of the speech, punch him right in the face
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"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

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