And now, anyone with a faith is attacked by people like Delphi.

I failed my save vs. Irony.

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Iron Parcelan had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Originally, it was the religious who persecuted the non-religious.

And now, anyone with a faith is attacked by people like Delphi.

I failed my save vs. Irony.

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Did you not read my post?

I don't give a crap what you worship, or whatever. Just at least give me the respect of not shoving YOUR religion down MY throat, and I won't shove the whole "omgz, there is no god" down your throat.

But you keep attacking Densetsu.

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This insanity brought to you by Iron Parcelan:
Nobody's been shoving anything down your throat in this thread.

But you keep attacking Densetsu.

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I wasn't attacking anyone.

I said that if someone came up to me and told me that I was going to hell because I was reading a book THEY disagree with, I'd be snippy at them.

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Delphi Aegis stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
I wasn't attacking anyone.

I said that if someone came up to me and told me that I was going to hell because I was reading a book THEY disagree with, I'd be snippy at them.

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[ 03-30-2003: Message edited by: Black Mage ]

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Everyone wondered WTF when Black Mage wrote:
You're going to hell.

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Delphi Aegis attempted to be funny by writing:
Woohoo!

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Moving on...

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sigeA ihpleD had this to say about the Spice Girls:

And the pure and simple fact is that MORE people have been killed over beliefs and religion then any other cause in the entire history of the world. Hello, Crusades. How ya doin, 9/11.

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This has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with a basic human flaw.

These religions do not tell its followers to persecute those who do not follow it. They choose to do that themselves, and use religion as a scapegoat.

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Delphi Aegis wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
[QUOTE]Everyone wondered WTF when Black Mage wrote:
[qb]You're going to hell.

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According to Dante... 7th circle of Hell.

You get to lie on a beach for eternity*.

Beach may or may not consist primarily of burning sand.

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Soldar had this to say about Pirotess:
According to Dante... 7th circle of Hell.

You get to lie on a beach for eternity*.

Beach may or may not consist primarily of burning sand.

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Yay! Sand!

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How.... sigeA ihpleD.... uughhhhhh:
And the pure and simple fact is that MORE people have been killed over beliefs and religion then any other cause in the entire history of the world. Hello, Crusades. How ya doin, 9/11.

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Heh, I would have thought that natural causes would be the #1 reason.

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sigeA ihpleD had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I don't give a shit about religion, what you believe, or who you worship, or whatever.

>>>That's fine, because I don't really give a shit about what you believe either, as long as it isn't something that could cause harm to other people.

It's not my place to say "omfg, u must worship THIS guy, or suffer horrible fate!", and neither is yours.

>>>You know what? Your right. And when have I ever said that to anyone? I have never said that to anyone. I've never told anyone that I do, and I certainly haven't said Jack shit about it to you so don't assume that I do.

If I want to join a church or whatever, I'll come to you. Don't try to convert me. I don't walk up to people and say "Your entire belief system is wrong, there is no god, and I can PROOVE it!".

>>>Neither do I. I try to have polite conversations, or debates, with other people so that we can learn as much about eachother's beliefs as possible.

The least I ask is the same respect for me. They start spouting bullshit about simple things like reading a SciFi book is going to melt my brain and make me go to hell, that's when I get snippity.

>>>So do I. In fact, I probably get worse than you do.

And the pure and simple fact is that MORE people have been killed over beliefs and religion then any other cause in the entire history of the world. Hello, Crusades. How ya doin, 9/11.

>>>Actually, your wrong. Certainly, religon was a cover-up and excuse to have the crusades, but it was seldom about religon. If it was, then why was one of the crusades against constantinople, a christian city? The venicians sacked the town, didn't even wait to get the the Middle east. Now, 9/11 is certainly about religon. But religon is like all human things, there are good people and there are bad people. Do you really think that if there was no religon that there would be any less violence? No, we would just find other ways to explain why we kill others.

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As for the customer service thing, I know, trust me. You must of miss the fact when i said im know as being one of the most courtious person there, it wasnt a boast or lie, it is the truth. I want to apolidgize if it came out like i wait there for a minute, becuase i dont. I wait 5 seconds, 10 at the most if they were rude when i said hello to them. Im courtoues to them, even to the most rude of customers.

I agree with the person though taht said that they can at least treat us like human. They seem to think that we live, breath and sleep Vons (the name of my store).

disclaimer: I had just been taking alot of stress and needed to vent, hence this thread. I know not all of the people are like the ones formention, the assholes just stick out.

Ps, Blasphemy is cool; "Pull my finger" said god, and thus he created wind.

[ 03-30-2003: Message edited by: Death of Rats ]

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The Burger had this to say about Optimus Prime:
I almost always tip. I ALWAYS say please, thank you, I almost always smile, and I try to put a warm tone in my voice.

People work shitty jobs, get treated like ass, and the least they deserve is some freaking kindness and warmth.

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Same here. Especially at Wendy's or Taco Bell when they're open late.

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The Burger stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
And that's why I memorized a few passages out of the bible. If anyone ever starts a religion conversation, and how I should turn to God, or read the Holy Bible, I just quote one, and let them derive their own conclusions.

Although the bible isn't all that bad, granted, yes, there's better fiction, and better comedy, but it's the best of both worlds. It's ficticious comedy played with a straight face.

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The bible is one of the best fantasy novels ever written.

humor disclaimer..This isn't meant to open up a can of worms.

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There was much rejoicing when Kegwen said this:
Same here. Especially at Wendy's or Taco Bell when they're open late.

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Heh, yeah, cause those are usually the people who really don't want to be working that late =p

Late night Taco and Wendy's runs are pretty commonplace amongst my circle of friends

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Death of Rats impressed everyone with:

Ps, Blasphemy is cool; "Pull my finger" said god, and thus he created wind.

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There's a difference between a religious joke such as that (which I actually found amusing) and saying that you're God.

We had a nice, half-hour discussion about my beliefs and about the bible, and about the differences between the bible's laws and what is, in theory, the divine ideals put forth in it. We admitted that, at heart, we disagreed with each other's beliefs; his putting the divine ahead of the humanist, and mine connecting the two intrinsically.

When it was over, we shook hands, and thanked each other for the time and insight, and went our separate ways amicably. I still have the leaflet he left with me.

The point of this post, then?

Such things are possible.

If people took the time to shake each others' hands, at least.

So I just point at the pictures on front of the programs and laugh very, very quietly.

I'm not sure i understand where yer trying to go with this