I missed the first 30 minutes, but what I saw was fairly convincing in of itself. But then, I was already in a begrudingly supportive position--what about the rest of you, those who're hoping for something more diplomatic? Any thoughts, criticisms, opinions?
The recordings mentioned about how they were to 'evacuate' weapons in modified vehicles before the inspectors got there.
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Maradon XP had this to say about the Spice Girls:
I heard more than I was expecting to hear, and you know my stance on Iraq's military capabilities.
I know what you mean.
I really didn't think it was that bad...and they didn't even show us everything.
Iraq and Al Queda, not sure if I'm convinced they are bed buddies yet, but it convinced me enough they have the beginnings of a potentially dangerous relationship.
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Are you convinced by Powell's evidence?Yes
46.65%
No
53.35%
The poll-in-progress on the BBC's website. This is mostly international, where criticism of war is much higher however; the domestic war approval ratings, with UN support (which we may now get) are now closing in on 100%. Without is still a strong 75% (according to MSNBC).
I'm not for going alone even still. I'd just feel better with the international community backing us. [ 02-05-2003: Message edited by: Suddar ]
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Aanile had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Ok, need *ALOT* more info for those who have no cable/tv reseption to know fully what you're talking about.
It's not quite as good as watching the presentation yourself, but there you go.
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ACES! Another post by Suddar:
[QUOTE]Aanile had this to say about Optimus Prime:
[qb]Ok, need *ALOT* more info for those who have no cable/tv reseption to know fully what you're talking about.
It's not quite as good as watching the presentation yourself, but there you go.[/QB][/QUOTE]
Thanks hun. 
*reads*
I'll comment when i'm done.
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This one time, at Aanile camp:
Thanks hun.*reads*
I'll comment when i'm done.
Read the speech rather than the interpretation of the speech by a liberal.
(not that it'll make a difference)
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Maradon XP had this to say about Cuba:
Read the speech rather than the interpretation of the speech by a liberal.(not that it'll make a difference)
/eyes Mara
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Maradon XP attempted to be funny by writing:
Read the speech rather than the interpretation of the speech by a liberal.(not that it'll make a difference)
Ah thanks, I was looking for that.
The actual presentation itself is still better.
But, oh well...
Honestly, I would like to see war and force being used as the absolute last resort. However, we're very much there. So unless one of the other council/committee members can come up with something other then "more time" for the inspectors to resolve this issue with out war...
But the chances of that...? I'm guessing not very likely.
SOme people realised a while back that a conflict was the only way to solve this. Others, like you, held out hope that war could be avoided. Sadly it doesn't look that way.
When France consents to ANY war, you know you're dealing with serious business.
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Maradon XP's account was hax0red to write:
France consented that war might be nesscessary.When France consents to ANY war, you know you're dealing with serious business.
HOLY SHIT THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!!!!
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Everyone wondered WTF when Maradon XP wrote:
France consented that war might be nesscessary.When France consents to ANY war, you know you're dealing with serious business.
Especially considering than ANY war includes a good chance of the French getting their asses kicked. Even if they aren't a combatant. [ 02-05-2003: Message edited by: Callalron ]
[ 02-05-2003: Message edited by: Callalron ]
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Callalron had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Especially considering than ANY war includes a good chance of the French getting their asses kicked. Even if they aren't a combatant.
That was damn funny Cal 
When is the last time they didn't surrender anyway?
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Azizza had this to say about the Spice Girls:
Aanile I think most of the people here, including me, would like there to be a non-violent way to solve this issue along with most others. However in all to many situations you can not have that. A non violent solution involves all parties being level headed and willing to work. Saddam is not level headed and the only thing he wants to work at is how to kill more of his own people.SOme people realised a while back that a conflict was the only way to solve this. Others, like you, held out hope that war could be avoided. Sadly it doesn't look that way.
And, while part of me held out hope, which has been slowly fading away with "JEBUS CRIST I'M GETTING TIRED OF THIS... JUST BLOODY END IT!!" Another part of me really doesn't want to wake up a crispy glow stick as with the *possibility* of nukes being chucked at us. 
(mark 3rd dream this week of Seattle being nuked)
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Aanile had this to say about (_|_):
And, while part of me held out hope, which has been slowly fading away with "JEBUS CRIST I'M GETTING TIRED OF THIS... JUST BLOODY END IT!!" Another part of me really doesn't want to wake up a crispy glow stick as with the *possibility* of nukes being chucked at us.
(mark 3rd dream this week of Seattle being nuked)
*hugs Aani* 
I don't think Saddam can chuck nukes at us just yet. That is the w3hole point of this. To make sure he never can.
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Maradon XP said this about your mom:
Read the speech rather than the interpretation of the speech by a liberal.(not that it'll make a difference)
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From the book of Reynar, chapter 3, verse 16:
Denying the obvious existence of a media slant? Nice. 
If Iraq knew it was going to be wiped off the face of the planet the second it tried anything involved weapons of mass destruction, I think things would be a lot different. They can't possibly hope to wage a war of any scale against the larger nations of the world. Israel alone has enough firepower to turn the Arabian Penninsula into a nice little atoll.
The other part of me, the more logical part of me, knows that nuking Iraq would have serious consequences, and it's better to just attack them conventionally.
All in all, I'm not surprised by the presentation, Colin Powell's been acting weird since last week, I knew something had been found out.
I still hope that Saddam just gets the hell out of dodge. That would save everyone a lot of trouble. But I don't see it happening.
And you are very right. When Powell went from being against the war to his present stance, I think everyone who saw it knew that something was up.
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Azizza had this to say about Tron:
Well Lashanna I don't think anyone is advocating useing nuke. Ok no one sane is advocating the use of nukes.I still hope that Saddam just gets the hell out of dodge. That would save everyone a lot of trouble. But I don't see it happening.
And you are very right. When Powell went from being against the war to his present stance, I think everyone who saw it knew that something was up.
I like Powell, ^_^
If for nothing more, than he and Rice play Devil's Advocate to the Bush Administration. They also help his administration in areas he's lacking (foreign relations). Cheney's been on like, one business trip out of the country, virtually an all time low for Vice Presidents. Powell is hardly in the country, and Condoleezza Rice has done pretty well with her foreign counterparts.
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Gevarien / Modrakien thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
IF this stuff turns out to be true it would be reason enough to eliminate Iraq's WMD-capabilities by force, yes.
Yeah...we're just going to pull things out of our ass hoping nobody finds out.
That's a wonderful way to garner support.
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Suddar probably says this to all the girls:
Yeah...we're just going to pull things out of our ass hoping nobody finds out.That's a wonderful way to garner support.
It's not like the lies are so uncommon in politics that having strong doubts about such things is not reasonable.
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Kegwen had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Denying the obvious existence of a media slant? Nice.
Two statements on this.
1) The majority of popular media in this country is owned and managed by conservatives
2) If all the news reporters, the journalists, the photographers... all the people who spend their lives neck deep in the "world events"(tm) are liberal... doesn't that tell you something?
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Blindy McBlinderson was listening to Cher while typing:
2) If all the news reporters, the journalists, the photographers... all the people who spend their lives neck deep in the "world events"(tm) are liberal... doesn't that tell you something?
Actually, yes. but not what you want it to tell me.
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This one time, at Blindy McBlinderson camp:
2) If all the news reporters, the journalists, the photographers... all the people who spend their lives neck deep in the "world events"(tm) are liberal... doesn't that tell you something?
That they should sue their guidance counselor for getting them hooked on journalism as a career?
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I fear. 
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Everyone wondered WTF when Tier wrote:
That's just scary... Not "World War 2" scary-like, either. If this goes horribly wrong (e.g. weapons being used), this'll be a struggle you can't defend yourself from, not a war at the front.I fear.
