please. someone knock me out of this.
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How.... Geeorn.... uughhhhhh:
it's a pretty nice item. and if you have the money and the desire for the item, go for it.
GOD DAMNIT YOU ARENT HELPING.
I asked a guildmate just how long it should take to raise all the tradeskills to around 200 which is where they need to be.
a monthish.
Should only cost around 10k plat at the least, then about 10k for the velium hound furs...then...god.
Fal twitches
Er... if you give me 20k, I'll come play on FRo and stuff 
Better investment!
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Falaanla Marr had this to say about pies:
Im thinking about putting in 10s of thousands of platinum to raise the skills for this damned coldain prayer shawl quest.please. someone knock me out of this.
I'll tell you what you do.
Pick ONE trade skill. Just one, but make it something that you can get some use out of beyond the prayer shawl quests. Cooking sounds fun.
Now, raise that. Once you've done so, ask yourself if you still think it's worth it. If so, pick the next skill, once again thinking of what ones you will use outside of this quest.
That way, if you change your mind part of the way through this quest, you won't have spent tons of plat on skills that you will never use again.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Random Insanity Generator said:
I got a Shawl of Perception and was happy.
thats the thing. i gotta decide if the FT3 on the shawl is worth about 20k total and a few weeks of time.
All that time... down the disposal. 
quote:the other solution is to simply kill in NTOV for months.
Random Insanity Generator had this to say about Cuba:
And "disposal" would be the proper phrase for the (ab)use of the time to get said skills....All that time... down the disposal.
either way, its gonna be alot of time 
That way you can sit there and munch on cookies and drink malted milk, and watch people's reactions.
Not to mention, unlike the stuff made with other craft skills, food and drink does not last forever. There will allways be a market for some of the better food/drink stuff, be it for parties or for stats. [ 09-27-2002: Message edited by: Palador ChibiDragon ]
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Falaanla Marr wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
the other solution is to simply kill in NTOV for months.either way, its gonna be alot of time
Nah.. the shawl is not a no-drop item.
After that, I dunno.
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We were all impressed when Random Insanity Generator wrote:
Nah.. the shawl is not a no-drop item.
im not paying 50k for a single item.
At LEAST i would get SOME benefit form investing 20k in this quest, and have about 20k left.
Now, I would say up Baking because, really, baking is fun
Plus you can create some darn crazy food
But really, 20k for a single item? And just how much of a bonus would said 20k get for you over the one you wear now?
Could that 20k be instead spent on a different item for a different slot that provides more of an overall bonus?
Do you really want to waste a month for it?
If you are not guilded or in a small non-raiding guild go for it. If you're in a guild that does NToV+ just wait for something usable to drop.
IF you need FT badly you could just farm sewers and get some slime boots, yet it may take a month too, but at least you'll have made some nice xp while waiting.
Edit: I just saw you own an ODS, keep it, the advantages of FT3 over MP3 are little or none. [ 09-27-2002: Message edited by: Gevarien / Modrakien ]
Honestly if you went for the 8th shawl, 95% of your time will be spent working tailoring, or farming in WW for velium hound furs (assuming there is a lot of competition for them).
I have guild members that are still waiting on loot that use this. The focus effect and the FT3 are very important.
And despite what anyone tells you, the FT3 is important. It IS important. BTW, its important. Hey did I mention, its important?
Do one trade skills first. I did blacksmithing to 185 and I decided I could wait for my loot. I had to wait a LONG time though.
Its really up to you and if you can get FT some other way.
Ferrel!
Like the others said, work on one trade skill first. If it were me, I'd work talioring all the way up, then one of the hardest parts is out of the way.
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Lalian Viajante spewed forth this undeniable truth:
If you don't want to spend 20k on trade skills you could get the item below. They only go for around 18k on Quellious
Or you could click on Fal's Magelo and see that he has one already.
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D had this to say about Knight Rider:
Or you could click on Fal's Magelo and see that he has one already.
But that would be too much work
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Reynar stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Money is the easy part, all of the skills aside from tailoring can be brought up to near trivial level in no time.Honestly if you went for the 8th shawl, 95% of your time will be spent working tailoring, or farming in WW for velium hound furs (assuming there is a lot of competition for them).
Nah, the time would be spent buying said furs at 1k a pop (hence the 20k instead of the 10k i was quoted by a guildie to raise the skills needed
And if i were to buy this, id pick up an MP3 item for a different slot. And the thing is too, ALL FT would stack (from my earring, then from the shawl, and from FT3 boots which i may skip for Boots of bladecalling if velk ever drops em)
The stacking of FT makes it a hard decision, lol. 
As for my guild, we are JUST NOW able to take down an NTOV dragon, ikatair. Dunno how long itll be till we can take more though, so i dont wanna count on that.
GAH. hard decisions. [ 09-27-2002: Message edited by: Falaanla Marr ]
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Everyone wondered WTF when Falaanla Marr wrote:
Nah, the time would be spent buying said furs at 1k a pop (hence the 20k instead of the 10k i was quoted by a guildie to raise the skills neededAnd if i were to buy this, id pick up an MP3 item for a different slot. And the thing is too, ALL FT would stack (from my earring, then from the shawl, and from FT3 boots which i may skip for Boots of bladecalling if velk ever drops em)
The stacking of FT makes it a hard decision, lol.
As for my guild, we are JUST NOW able to take down an NTOV dragon, ikatair. Dunno how long itll be till we can take more though, so i dont wanna count on that.
GAH. hard decisions.
Eashan and Iki are the easy guys in ntov. Aary is significantly more difficult.
The shawl of perception from ntov is a nice shoulder item, but still doesnt even come close to the 8th shawl.
Aary pretty much decides if you're getting into NToV or not. Some of the dragons behind him are easyier, some are harder but there is no NTOV without Aary!
Ferrel!
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Khyron had this to say about (_|_):
What does Flowing thought even DO? I thought it was mana regen, but I think I'm wrong.
It is. the number of mana regenerated over a tick is equal to the Flowing Thought level
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Skaw had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
It is. the number of mana regenerated over a tick is equal to the Flowing Thought level
So FT3, is 3 mana per tick. One below Clarity1.
So if Fal got 3 FT3 items, since they stack, that's 9 mana per tick.
Makes sense to me.
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How.... Khyron.... uughhhhhh:
So FT3, is 3 mana per tick. One below Clarity1.So if Fal got 3 FT3 items, since they stack, that's 9 mana per tick.
Makes sense to me.
Clarity is 7/tick at 35, 2 at 29.
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Skaw stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Clarity is 7/tick at 35, 2 at 29.
Yeah, sorry, I forgot that EQ spells gain power as you gain levels
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Skaw stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
Yeah, but you got the jist of FT, it all stacks until you reach the equivalent of FT 15, if it existed.
True. But 9 mana/tick is nothing to laugh at. Even if mana buffs are far superior, near the end-game area.
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Khyron's fortune cookie read:
True. But 9 mana/tick is nothing to laugh at. Even if mana buffs are far superior, near the end-game area.
Yes it is
Only different types of FT stack, unless it's been changed.
And a Shield of Auras would help Fal much more than any FT crap, but hey, it's not available to everyone
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Asha'man stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Only different types of FT stack, unless it's been changed.
I do believe it has.
I've been working on it because longer buffs + being a buffing class = the most useful thing ever.
