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Topic: Druids on Raids
Aaron (the good one)
posted 06-13-2002 08:17:34 PM
What do they do other than keep the cleric alive if necessary?
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Il Buono
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posted 06-13-2002 08:18:13 PM
Lag everyone else.
"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
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Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 08:18:41 PM
PotG, Circle of summer/winter/seasons, um...DT ammo.

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Lalian Viajante
Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 08:22:12 PM
I usually do Regrowth of the Grove and Circles for buffs. My job on raids usually is to keep the pulling monk alive, and my secondary job is to help the cleric out on healing AoE damage. On raids where there is no AoE, I usually just try to keep the enchanter and shaman alive. I also do some nuking, like on things that gate, I'll unload on.

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Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 08:37:52 PM
RotG, PotG, PotC, Circle of Summer, Circle of Winter, Circle of Seasons, Support Healer, SoE (for some raids), Certain DoTs, Sunder, Fixation, Evac, Port, CoH Chain anchor, Group leader for the Straggler group (CoH'ing in late people)

I know all this... and I am not a druid.

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Cetona
Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 10:08:17 PM
CoH.. as in Call of the hero? Druids can't cast that, it's mage only
Black
The Outlaw Torn
posted 06-13-2002 10:09:22 PM
quote:
Cetona obviously shouldn't have said:
CoH.. as in Call of the hero? Druids can't cast that, it's mage only
CoH ANCHOR.


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Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 10:11:36 PM
Misread that... Why would a druid be the group leader as opposed to another class?
Aaron (the good one)
posted 06-13-2002 10:15:37 PM
I don't understand what Anchor means in this situation..
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Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 10:38:40 PM
Druid is the leader of the group. Druid invites the CoTH mage.
The druid stays at the common zone in point. Mage goes in with raid group.
When someone late arrives, druid invites person at zone, mage CoH's, everyone is happy.

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Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 10:42:48 PM
And please explain why only druids can do that?
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posted 06-13-2002 10:45:00 PM
Because they're the only class without a job to do? Even Necros have to feed mana while other classes do useful buffs.
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Cetona
Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 10:52:32 PM
Everyone has a job to do.

Shamans and druids main job is to keep the casters alive during AoE, because clerics are busy with melee.

Any class with gate can do this really, just bind at the zone line, gate whenever someone needs CotH, mage CotHs them both back

Skaw
posted 06-13-2002 10:56:40 PM
quote:
Cetona stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
And please explain why only druids can do that?

Cause they can uhh, pick people up also?

Cetona
Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 10:58:57 PM
I thought we were talking about CotHing in the middle of the raid? No druid is going to leave in the middle of a raid to pick someone up...
Skaw
posted 06-13-2002 11:00:03 PM
quote:
Cetona obviously shouldn't have said:
I thought we were talking about CotHing in the middle of the raid? No druid is going to leave in the middle of a raid to pick someone up...

If the guilds best Cleric/Warrior isn't there on time, they sure as hell will

Cetona
Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 11:01:45 PM
What defines the "best cleric"?

Raid probably wouldnt start if they didnt have a sufficient main tank, wouldnt leave just to pick up a better one when he can get a stranger to port him

Lalian Viajante
Pancake
posted 06-13-2002 11:29:42 PM
CoH anchoring usually involves binding at zone and then gating to get people, not staying at the zone.
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 06-14-2002 12:36:09 AM
I'd have to question your abilities as a 60 mage.

Druid is MUCH easier to spare than any other binding class. Druid gates to zone, picks up the straggler, then they zone in and are CoH'ed back.

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Trillee
I <3 My Deviant
posted 06-14-2002 12:42:58 AM
Sexxor the puller!

er wait.. *ehem*

Accually I get to.. not do much but try to KS

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 06-14-2002 12:54:37 AM
quote:
Random Insanity Generator said this about your mom:
I'd have to question your abilities as a 60 mage.

Druid is MUCH easier to spare than any other binding class. Druid gates to zone, picks up the straggler, then they zone in and are CoH'ed back.


What he said.

Ive always had druids as the CotH anchor for me. Especially in places with a nearby druid portal.

Matilda Jane
ph33r my MIRVs
posted 06-14-2002 01:00:43 AM
Since he's not here to respond, I will.

The reason he thinks this way is because in his experience he's never had a druid anchor for him.

The majority of the time a monk or an enchanter is used. It may seem odd but it's the way things are done 'round these parts.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 06-14-2002 01:03:02 AM
So you're going to sacrifice having an additional puller or and additional corwd controller...

What, is your server OVERLOADED with thoes 2 classes?

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Matilda Jane
ph33r my MIRVs
posted 06-14-2002 01:03:52 AM
They typically have almost 30 druids attending raids so I believe so.
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Skaw
posted 06-14-2002 01:04:07 AM
quote:
Terena Azal was naked while typing this:
The majority of the time a monk or an enchanter is used. It may seem odd but it's the way things are done 'round these parts.

Get stalled/wiped out alot?

2 classes you can't have more than enough of. Monks are great for pulling, recovering the pullers dead body, recovering that guys dead body, etc. etc, and ofcourse, damage. Enchanters often die mezzing in a large pull, the more enchanters, the less problems you have if a few die. Why throw 2 useful classes out to get people to CoH in? Might as well toss a cleric, or a wizard as well!

Matilda Jane
ph33r my MIRVs
posted 06-14-2002 01:07:17 AM
Don't look at me. I've never raided in my life. 43 is my highest

He doesn't belong to a guild but tags along with different ones from time to time. It's just his experience and it can be hard to convince him things are done differently elsewhere.

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Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-14-2002 09:26:24 AM
quote:
Terena Azal had this to say about Captain Planet:
They typically have almost 30 druids attending raids so I believe so.

30 druids?!?!

My god...we have ONE active druid. And she just recently got another job, so is only playing half the time now.

We have people fightclub their alt druids it's gotten so bad...

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Falaanla Marr
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posted 06-14-2002 09:34:18 AM
quote:
Reynar had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
30 druids?!?!

My god...we have ONE active druid. And she just recently got another job, so is only playing half the time now.

We have people fightclub their alt druids it's gotten so bad...


...fightclub their alt druids?

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-14-2002 09:56:55 AM
quote:
Falaanla Marr's fortune cookie read:
...fightclub their alt druids?

Sorry, thats a local term I think. Firing up another PC to play another character, multi-boxing...etc whatever you wanna call it.

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posted 06-14-2002 10:34:19 AM
My guild's Cleric :: Druid Ratio is the wrong way. It scares me sometimes
Katjya
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posted 06-14-2002 10:46:52 AM
Which way is the wrong way?

My guild (well, ex-guild, since I don't play anymore) has like 6 or 7 MAIN druids (I'm not counting alternate characters) and I believe 1, maybe 2 main clerics. But somehow, they always manage to raid all kinds of places and do really well.

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Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-14-2002 10:51:05 AM
3-4 druids is a good number for a large raid I think. Enough to keep regen on everyone, land negative FR de-buff of dewm, and anchor for coh.

Anymore then that and you have a fair amount of dead weight. Druids dont stack too well.

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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 06-14-2002 10:52:38 AM
I'm used to seeing Shammys and Enchanters in short supply....

Fielding 6 to 10 clerics, 3 to 8 Druids and then 1 or 2 Shammies and 1 or 2 Enchanters...

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 06-14-2002 10:53:33 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when Reynar wrote:
Anymore then that and you have a fair amount of dead weight. Druids dont stack too well.

What? Spot healing in combat doesn't stack well? They get thoes heal spells for a reason...

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-14-2002 10:55:02 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Random Insanity Generator!
I'm used to seeing Shammys and Enchanters in short supply....

Fielding 6 to 10 clerics, 3 to 8 Druids and then 1 or 2 Shammies and 1 or 2 Enchanters...



Generally we carry about 2-3 shamen on a raid, and 3-4 enchanters. Clerics around 10-13.

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Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-14-2002 10:55:57 AM
quote:
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What? Spot healing in combat doesn't stack well? They get thoes heal spells for a reason...


I'd rather replace 2 druids that are only spot healing with 1 cleric casting DL.

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posted 06-14-2002 10:57:04 AM
We normally have 5-6 clerics and 10 billion druids. And somehow.. people still die. I think the druids get mezzed by the leaves from their epic.
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 06-14-2002 10:59:10 AM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Reynar!

I'd rather replace 2 druids that are only spot healing with 1 cleric casting DL.

You're toting around more than 1 cleric/group? Seems overkill, IMHO...

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
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Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 06-14-2002 10:59:57 AM
quote:
Pesco stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
We normally have 5-6 clerics and 10 billion druids. And somehow.. people still die. I think the druids get mezzed by the leaves from their epic.

No, they're too busy raking the damned things up and putting them in those little bags they're leaving everywhere

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"That was black magic, and it was easy to use. Easy and fun. Like Legos." -- Harry Dresden
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That's what playing Ragnarok Online taught me: There's no problem in the universe that can't be resolved by the proper application of daggers to faces.
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 06-14-2002 11:05:39 AM
quote:
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You're toting around more than 1 cleric/group? Seems overkill, IMHO...

You'll see the importance of clerics when your fights start lasting 25 minutes+ =)

It's all about healing power. A guild in luclin encounters is as strong as it's weakest cleric.

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