I'm dead serious here. I've been witnessing far too much weird crap lately.
But I've got ten bucks says somebody posts, "Love is magic!" or some facsimilie thereof before the day is out 
I'd really like magic to exist. But unfortunately... there's no proof out there, no happenings that I know of. So I have to go for the negative for now.
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I don't believe in God.
I believe in Science!
Im serious.
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greykittytwilight had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
lockness
Loch Ness.
And I believe in sixth senses. Pyrokenesis, telekenesis, etc.
Seriously, there's got to be some strange, unexplainable force out there. I might not exactly term it 'magic', perhaps, but it's definetely there just out of sight.
Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
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greykittytwilight had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
I believe in magic..Just like I believe in UFO's..The lockness Monster..The dead thing that lives under my bed..and that someday while Im sleeping my cat will suck the life out of me.
Im serious.
But seriously, no, I have to say with 100% confidence I don't believe in any sort of magic.
Yes, that's right, hot live sex!
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Always have, always will.
Ozius
If these "mysterious forces" exist, they will be incorporated into physics as they are discovered and described.
Remember: a good chunk of what we consider routine would have been considered magic a mere hundred years ago.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
By saying that we label things we don't understand as magic, then eventually understand them, that would make them magic for a while, yes?
braene hrut.
I had a class in Horror for my English Master's.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Im just an open minded moron. 
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D had this to say about Tron:
You kind of just proved the point that it does exist.By saying that we label things we don't understand as magic, then eventually understand them, that would make them magic for a while, yes?
braene hrut.
No--by labeling it "magic," one inhibits logic and scientific inquiry by adding all sorts of spiritual and ritualistic mumbo-jumbo. Most of what folks call "magic" these days are unverified phenomena passed on through flimsy testimonials.
There is a large difference between attributing something to magical forces or to the normal operation of physics.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage wrote this stupid crap:
On a historical note, Necronomicon is a term H.P. Lovecraft invented for use in his short stories. It became very popular, though, and an entire genre of urban legend has sprung up around it.
I had a class in Horror for my English Master's.
I am a big fan of H.P. Lovecraft, and I do know that, but what is the fun of going about saying 'That's not real'.
I know that, but it's a kick to do it sometimes, walk around speaking the Dark Tongue to students you find distastefull, heheh. Besides, there are many stories untold in the world...mayhaps Mr. Lovecraft pulled the proverbial wool over our eyes?
Ozius
Not really my thing, and the literature of that time was just a bit too stuffy for my taste.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
If we ever learned how to control something like...giant fireballs of fiery...fire...some people would say "magic! Magic! YOU'RE USING MAGIC!" for awhile, and then a scientist will step up and explain the process which allows human beings to harness such forces and it would become widely accepted as "science" and we will be teaching people how to harness their latent abilities to use giant fireballs of fiery fire at military training schools and life eventually goes on. A few people will still call it magic but those are the ones who would be so narrow-minded about the subject anyway that it wouldn't matter.
Or am I wrong?
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D wrote this stupid crap:
braene hrut.
And I know what Emil is talking about. I get deja vu's all the time, and when I do, I get this feeling that I've seen it in a dream, which I find very strange as I haven't been able to remember a dream since I was like 10.
Sixth senses/telekinesis/telepathy are also things I believe in.
2. I also get odd preminitions in dreams, which show an everyday event occuring, then, sometimes as much as a year later, the event occurs. Therefore, I believe in Psionic powers.
3. My father can talk to my cat. Really. No, I'm NOT that crazy; he really can.
Necromancer: How DARE you imply that I was involved in a rude act with my undead servant! I will flay the flesh from your bones! I will summon a thousand maggot-ridden corpses to gnaw your flesh! I will trap your soul in-
Ghoul: My ass hurts.
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The Last Strider wrote this stupid crap:
1. Certain Yogi's in the Himalayas have been known to create matter using their minds, and a few can even create a short-lived, soulless living being. Therefore, I believe in magic.2. I also get odd preminitions in dreams, which show an everyday event occuring, then, sometimes as much as a year later, the event occurs. Therefore, I believe in Psionic powers.
3. My father can talk to my cat. Really. No, I'm NOT that crazy; he really can.
1. Nuh-uh. If that is true, then why has E=mc^2 not been updated to reflect this new physics?
2. Everyday events occur every day--it's not strange that you dream about them and they then happen. Perfectly normal psychological processes in action.
3. I talk to my dog, but it doesn't mean anything supernatural is going on. It's easy enough to tell which whine means, "Play with me," which means "Feed me, Seymour," and which means, "Let me out; I gotta go."
And, just to clarify, D's and Suddar's expansion of what I said argues against the existence of magic. There is no such thing: there is only science, constrained by physical forces. "Magic" is just a label used by the ignorant, the romantic, and the religious.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
quote:"Deja Vu" as it is called, is just a lapse in consciousness. It's been proven scientificly what it is.
Giantt wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
I get deja vu's all the time...
quote:Maybe, because... I don't know, it has yet to be proven real?
why the hell not?
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Any sufficiently advanced technology will appear to be magic
THAT aside, there are some forces that I believe science, at this current point in time, cannot explain.
Weird Deja Vu is one thing, but complex dreams coming true is another. About every 3 months or so, I'll have dreamless nights, or nights where I remember no dreams.. Then, usually 3 months after that, I'll live out each and every dream, and remember exactly what is going to happen next, and change everything to "fit" that future. I could give you many examples, but yall wouldnt believe me anyway.
Maybe Merlin mastered Nanotech (Hey, he does age backwards, y'know..) in Camelot or something.. Who knows. /shrug
I'll keep an open mind.
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Bloodsage had this to say about Pirotess:
1. Nuh-uh. If that is true, then why has E=mc^2 not been updated to reflect this new physics?2. Everyday events occur every day--it's not strange that you dream about them and they then happen. Perfectly normal psychological processes in action.
3. I talk to my dog, but it doesn't mean anything supernatural is going on. It's easy enough to tell which whine means, "Play with me," which means "Feed me, Seymour," and which means, "Let me out; I gotta go."
1. E=mc^2 does not govern EVERY SINGLE DAMN THING in the Universe.
2. So, seeing the EXACT SAME EVENT, down to the last minute detail like a shirt I don't own, later buy, and wear isn't a preminition? Gee.
3. No, I mean my Dad can actually UNDERSTAND the cat. He can tell the cat to do something and it will. A CAT. The most independent animal on the face of the Earth.
Science is not the only explanation for stuff. Dan Rationalists. *goes back to reading Thoreau*
Necromancer: How DARE you imply that I was involved in a rude act with my undead servant! I will flay the flesh from your bones! I will summon a thousand maggot-ridden corpses to gnaw your flesh! I will trap your soul in-
Ghoul: My ass hurts.
