::mumbles about weirdos wasting money::
Of course, given you, they were probably just trying to get in your pants, 
Rawr.
GG=port dunno if it is still called that on mith marr though [ 01-29-2002: Message edited by: Mr. Duck ]
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Black Mage had this to say about Duck Tales:
You would know
Even though it's only text, it's still sometimes so very easy to discern what some guys are thinking...
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Lashanna had this to say about Captain Planet:
Even though it's only text, it's still sometimes so very easy to discern what some guys are thinking...
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Check out the big brain on Kitudo!
I don't get it... Why would someone INSIST on donating for a port when I tell them not to bother? Hell they even went as far as /splitting and disbanding before I could say a thing...::mumbles about weirdos wasting money::
I'd imagine most would offer to pay at least out of politeness. Maybe they feel guilty for not paying... they insist on paying, go ahead and let them, I say, then you both win. There's worse things to insist on... I remember someone who wouldn't bind me in Overthere unless I paid him 50pp. Nothing wrong with asking for a reasonable donation for ports and buffs, but binds are something I think should always have been free (since it costs the caster almost nothing in time and mana, and is a very basic need for melees and hybrids). Soulbinders took a lot of business away from those kinds of people, although there is still times where people want to bind in places other than where the soulbinders are. But still most people are willing to bind for free.
/shrug
Guess being nice is a bad thing?
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Illanae wrote this stupid crap:
I always pay for a port. I just feel it is the polite thing to do. If someone is taking time out of their playtime, to help me, I feel that they deserve some sort of recompense./shrug
Guess being nice is a bad thing?
Never said it was... I always offer to pay for ports myself, but don't insist on it if people are willing to do it free. I think it's just as rude to insist on paying if someone wants to be nice and do it for free, as it is to not even offer to pay in the first place.
In other words, be nice, and allow others to be nice.
Errr...not that I'd know! 
I still like offering it freely, though. If they choose to donate, I'll accept it, and I'll make sure I put it to good use, like investing in my chanter's jewelry skill so I can get to the point I can provide for my guild.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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First Dragon had this to say about Optimus Prime:
I have always feeled compelled to give someone a little something, no matter what, for their services. Even if I accidently train someone or something, and apologize about it and they say its ok, I feel I must give them a small gift of forgiveness.
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Vorago had this to say about Robocop:
Don't you hate all those damn nice people in this game?
Yeah! They should all go away! EverQuest is all about training spectres and sand giants all over the MORONS in Oasis!
I don't donate or pay unless they ask, unless they are REALLY, REALLY going out of there way to do it. And those are the nice people, so they turn down donations anyway. I stopped donating when I got Gated to Dreadlands instead of Gfay, ON PURPOSE, 2 times AFTER paying 10pp.
One thing I don't get though, why is it such a big hassle to translocate? Besides mana that is? Is taking up a minute of time that big of a deal? I mean really
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Illanae had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
tcha
Touche!
I no longer pay for ports from anyone anymore. Mostly because it is so rare that I actually have someone just out of the blue port me.
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Pesco had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Since my primary mode of transportation is either:
a) My Brother's Druid
b) A Guild Druid
c) Exp group Wizzy/Druid
d) Translocate
e) Thurg Gate Potion
f) NexusI no longer pay for ports from anyone anymore. Mostly because it is so rare that I actually have someone just out of the blue port me.
You can't be in this thread! You're in an UberGuild and you don't pay for ports!
-Tok
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Pesco wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
e) Thurg Gate Potion
FRUITY DWARF LOVER!
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Tier had this to say about Optimus Prime:
FRUITY DWARF LOVER!
I'm on Giant faction and used to use Thurg potions.
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Comrade_Snoota had this to say about (_|_):
I'm on Giant faction and used to use Thurg potions.
I use... ports!
Ok, I'm a druid, that's just a detail... Hell I don't even know where exactly the potion gates...
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The Otaku Penguin impressed everyone with:
I'm gonna get flamed by the wizzies for this but..I don't donate or pay unless they ask, unless they are REALLY, REALLY going out of there way to do it. And those are the nice people, so they turn down donations anyway. I stopped donating when I got Gated to Dreadlands instead of Gfay, ON PURPOSE, 2 times AFTER paying 10pp.
One thing I don't get though, why is it such a big hassle to translocate? Besides mana that is? Is taking up a minute of time that big of a deal? I mean really
We don't HAVE to port you, we can just say no. Any port, unless we're offering, is going well out of our way. Translocates are going out of our way as well, though not quite as much. Do you play a port class into the port levels? In some zones we get three tells a minute asking for ports. Even when we're anon. It's just common fair play to offer to pay for your ports. Be reasonable. [ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: Pvednes Phoenixfeather ]
It is not our duty to port you.
We do not go around wondering how we can help soandso get to suchandsuch.
But Miandor never gets a port, if it wasnt for the GD port to Luclin, I dont think id ever leave the area near velks. [ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: Miandor ]
"both parties walk away happy.
After I am ported, I /split 200 pp and disband with a thank you. I had one moron druid try to tell me he didn't get the money. I recieved 100pp in the split so I know he did.
Nowadays I just use the Nexus, so I don't require ports as much.
Wizards are a class that starts out weak, spikes up abit in power at level 12, then suffers a from a consistent bit of weakness up through the 20s and 30s. They start to gain more power in their 40s.
And when they reach the max level (60), they are truly awesome. This has always been the "concept" Verant has had of the Wizard class. Someone weak, who stays weak, but in the end, is greatly rewarded.
Post-50, Wizards really don't have that many problems at all. Level 60 is pretty much the pinnacle of our balance.
You can see this also in the fact that the past few non-expansion Wizard spells added, and a good portion of expansion wizard spells added are all level 60.
I guess, what I'm trying to say is... through the 20s and 30s, playing a Wizard will make you want to crack your skull open (most every wizard will agree here, I think ^_^), but having the mental strength to ford through it (or just being too damn stubborn) will eventually reward you with l337ness.
Ports and Translocates are spells we EARNED, damnit. They're not given to wizards (nor druids, I'd imagine, but like I said, I won't comment on them, because I don't know much about them). The donations aren't just about time and mana (though those certainly are a factor). They're about a wizard earning an ability that allows her/him to provide an unnecessary (except in the cases of planes) public service.
And yes, translocates still do take up time, and they still do take mana. And especially when I'm in, Dreadlands for instance... (Yeah, shouting "Level 42 Wizard, Looking for a group" kinda lets everyone there know you're a taxi). I'm in a group, inviting you into the group to translocate you IS a hassle.
But look at it this way, Otaku. It's your opinion. The vast majority recognize wizardry and druidry for what it is, and appreciate them and the services they provide.
Also, so many people seem to have these images in their head of wizards or druids with 50K bank accounts at level 40 or something. Let me tell you, I have 2.2K right now, and that is the most I've ever had, and the only reason I even have that much is because I won a Treeweave in a Giant Fort Group in DL and sold it.
*waits to get flamed for being a damn dirty leech who takes peoples money for mana!*
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Tier had this to say about Pirotess:
Yeah! They should all go away! EverQuest is all about training spectres and sand giants all over the MORONS in Oasis!
/me scowls at Tier, ready to attack
You remember the first time we met ingame in LGuk? Kilauea and I dragged you to a cleric and got you a rez, which I paid for. I told you it was paid for and not to worry about it. You then autosplit with the group instead of accepting my gift. Sooo... isn't this thread like the pot calling the kettle black?
*hugs*
Tyndail Honorblade
"Waiting patiently on his new siggy"
) More othen than not the druid/wizzy accepts it, and I toss in Divine Vigor and Guard automatically (100 hp and 19 AC). When I used to get a bind (I use the Soulbinders now if they're available); I'd offer 5-10 plat. A lot of times it was refused, and I'd never try to force it down there throats.With Superion, I never charge for binds or breezes, but I don't turn down donations, either. So, if you ever meet a caster who binds you for free, you can bet their main is a melee-type.
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Tyndail had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
You remember the first time we met ingame in LGuk? Kilauea and I dragged you to a cleric and got you a rez, which I paid for. I told you it was paid for and not to worry about it. You then autosplit with the group instead of accepting my gift. Sooo... isn't this thread like the pot calling the kettle black?
But ... erm... it's not the same thing, I died and it's my damn fault, while people who need ports isn't actually their fault... see?
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Toktuk had this to say about Tron:
You can't be in this thread! You're in an UberGuild and you don't pay for ports!
-Tok
Change a) to "my friend's druid that I have the login info for" and you have my list of ways I get ports.But I still offer 20-50pp for non-guildie ports if I need to get one (its hard to find a guild port at 7am sometimes, or if I need a port in the opposite direction of a raid). How much I pay depends on where the port is to/from and the level of the porter. For some reason I'm compelled to give more money to the lower level porters, even though I know 7/8ths of them are twinks.
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[QUOTE]Guess I can't be here either then
Me either.
<logs on his second account with the 55 DREWID>
Moot point, as there's no way I could solo my way through that pit at level 40, even if you can get out that way. I can drud levitated himself down and portied me to BB (he didn't have the GD port yet). Since he saved me from more than a minor incovenience (there's simply no way I could ever have gotten out of there by myself, he was doing much more than saving me time!) I donated 20pp for his efforts.
No I plan to go to GFay, take the port up to the Nexus, then back down to GD, rather than find someone in BB who will port me (or GFay, for that matter. I'm perpetually poor, and would much rather spend time than money, if possible. So I always either walk, take boats, use the Nexus, or see if someone in my guild will port me for free, unless I have a very pressing need to get somewhere quickly.
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As for me, when I'm looking for a port, I offer 20 plat. (I generally only port to places like WC, Gfay, and BB - y'know, safe spots) More othen than not the druid/wizzy accepts it, and I toss in Divine Vigor and Guard automatically (100 hp and 19 AC). When I used to get a bind (I use the Soulbinders now if they're available); I'd offer 5-10 plat. A lot of times it was refused, and I'd never try to force it down there throats.
With Superion, I never charge for binds or breezes, but I don't turn down donations, either.
I never offered money for binds in my life. It's too basic a need. I suppose I would offer it if the caster had to go out of his way to give it, but you should never have to pay to be bound in a city (with soulbinders, now you don't, unless you have faction problems in the part of the city they're in. People in Freeport who are KOS to Militia often still ask for binds.) I wouldn't have turned down a request for a reasonable donation if asked, but except for some jerk who wanted 50pp to bind me in Overthere, nobody's ever asked. I have been known to offer my surplus baked goods from my baking practice... half a stack of rat ear pies seems to be a good way of showing appreciation without going overboard.
And because I don't think I should be a hypocrite, and expect payment for something I don't think should be paid for, I don't charge for binds either with my characters who can do it (currnetly only my enchanter, Drathen, has this capability). I'll bind for free, and never ask for donations, but won't turn them down if offered. Hardly ever asked for binds in Freeport anymore, except as I said, by people KOS to the Militia, either because they're evil, or a palladin who has pissed off the Militia. My trip to Kunark resulting in a request for a bind in Overthere... which I was happy to give. Sucks to be an enchanter in Kunark for a dark elf though, no trainers and no tiny daggers in the OT bank. FV is better supplied I hear, and I can use a high elf illusion to sneak my way in... but drachnids see thru invis, and it's hard to get there from Overthere. May take the Butcherblock route, and see if I can dodge the drachnids to get into LOIO some day...
Most of my experience with Kunark was as an iksar, and I'm finding how much trickier to get around this continent is for all the softskins... some day I'll quest for that iksar illusion and start stockpiling the bonechips to try to make Cabilis a safe city to get in to. I have seen on rare ocassions some non-iksar in the city, so some do put forth the effort... note that followers of non-evil deities can never get off KOS to the shamans and beastlords, so you have to be careful. But actually it's not especially difficult, just extremely time consuming. You'll see a lot more iksars in non-iksar cities than the other way around, because it takes so much time to get off KOS to Cabilis.
Um, straying off topic now, better quit typing... [ 01-30-2002: Message edited by: Troodon ]
