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Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 11-29-2001 05:44:16 AM
This is so sad.

quote:
Tom's Hardware Guide wrote this stupid crap:
If you actually forked out the money for an Xbox, you’re probably not taking it apart to see what makes it go, but several other hardware sites have done that dirty deed along with a company called Chipworks Inc., a company that does reverse engineering for the semiconductor and electronics market. The company just put out a press release with comments on the lack of technical innovations in the console. By now, you probably know that the XBox is built around an Intel Pentium III processor running at 733 MHz, but Chipworks goes as far as saying that "The whole console is in fact a stripped down medium end PC with high end graphics." Here are the details Chipworks uncovered (some of which you also probably know). Produced by nVIDIA, the graphics processor is a custom chip starting from a GeForce3 core running at 250 MHz. The system memory consists of 64 MB DDR-SDRAM running at 200MHz. nVIDIA's graphic chip performance is 125 Mpolygon/sec with a memory bandwidth of 6.4 GB/sec, which Chipworks says is better than both Sony Playstation2 and Nintendo Game Cube and is the only significant difference between Xbox and its competitors. The second chip from nVIDIA's chipset has an IDE interface capable of Ultra DMA 100, a serial interface for 4 USB ports (the controller ports) and an Ethernet 10/100 interface. The 8MB memory cards share the USB bus with the controllers. The IDE bus connects a 10GB hard disk and a DVD reader. The disk contains a modified version of Microsoft's XP OS but cannot be read if hooked to a regular PC IDE interface. An additional PIC microcontroller produced by Microchip handles the front panel and some control signals for the IDE drive and DVD. The highest video resolution is 1920x1080 with HDTV capabilities and 64 audio channels with 3D support. The Xbox does not have a shared bus since it's a system with a strong interaction between only two chips: the Intel processor and the XGPU nVIDIA chip (as a North bridge chip). Bear in mind that we here at THG haven’t taken one of the things apart, but that this particular company did and may have uncovered a few details you weren’t aware of. This account makes it sound like the Xbox is just a wimpy PC that’s been purposely set up to keep you from loading and playing other PC games you already own.

Damn you, MS.

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 11-29-2001 05:49:27 AM
You're surprised?
"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 11-29-2001 05:49:53 AM
No, but strangely disappointed.
Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 11-29-2001 05:54:11 AM
quote:
This account makes it sound like the Xbox is just a wimpy PC that’s been purposely set up to keep you from loading and playing other PC games you already own.

And this is different from every other console on the market how?

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: Koska Kintaro ]

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-29-2001 05:56:10 AM
quote:
Koska Kintaro had this to say about Pirotess:
And this is different from every other console on the market how?

The presence of a hard drive on the X-Box?

I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 11-29-2001 05:57:34 AM
quote:
JooJooFlop had this to say about Captain Planet:
The presence of a hard drive on the X-Box?

Exactly. The only difference is that the X-box could, in theory, install and play PC games.

How does that make the X-box look bad? I don't get it.

JooJooFlop
Hungry Hungry Hippo
posted 11-29-2001 06:00:44 AM
Look at it this way: It'll be fun to see all the mod types trying their damndest to make PC games work on it.
I don't know how to be sexy. If I catch a girl looking at me and our eyes lock, I panic and open mine wider. Then I lick my lips and rub my genitals. And mouth the words "You're dead."
KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 11-29-2001 06:11:41 AM
So the X-box is a stripped down, medium end computer with high end graphics. What exactly did you expect from a computer software company in conjunction with a hardware chipset manufacturer?

Think of it this way. Unlike a PC, you will never have to upgrade an Xbox, because the games will always be made to that systems specs.

Edit: I own a PS2, cannot afford an X-box, probably will never get one, yet here I am defending it. I need more coffee...

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: KaLourin DthBlayde ]

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Il Buono
You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend.
posted 11-29-2001 06:14:24 AM
quote:
KaLourin DthBlayde stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
Think of it this way. Unlike a PC, you will never have to upgrade an Xbox, because the games will always be made to that systems specs.

Which also leads to smarter game devs getting innovative to make better looking games.

"Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig."
Melyodas Darkender
Pancake
posted 11-29-2001 06:17:31 AM
Hey i am cool with that... i thought that thats what a really good console should be anyway... a cheaper... lower grade 'computer', whose sole resposibility is to play games... sounds like a winner to me
I LIKE MILK
KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 11-29-2001 06:20:52 AM
I'd also like to add that the quote text in Demitri's post is strangely appropriate for me. Feel hung over, and I didnt even drink anything last night.
Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 11-29-2001 06:46:55 AM
Gamecube forever!
Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Caanis Lupus
Rub me?
posted 11-29-2001 07:45:57 AM
quote:
Lenlalron had this to say:Gamecube forever!

I humbly pass on the words of The Gord.

I know you are joking about the Gamecube Len, but this is to funny to not pass on for all the console jockeys that have not been to Gord's site.

Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 11-29-2001 07:53:32 AM
Kinda sad really. Nintendo will never again be a serious game developer.

For the sin of underestimating the mature gaming crowd, they're doomed to cater to the pokemon niche for all eternity.

Steven Steve
posted 11-29-2001 08:00:48 AM
Here's a good look into the Gamecube
"Absolutely NOTHING [will stop me from buying Diablo III]. I will buy it regardless of what they do."
- Grawbad, Battle.net forums

"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums

Lenlalron Flameblaster
posted 11-29-2001 08:24:30 AM
Nintendo is my freaking hero. I'm mad. I love nintendo. we're going to have a monopoly. :-(
Grammar is your enemy! - While being able to understand someone's sentences might seem like a good idea for a proper essay, complaining on a forum scarcely leaves time for such trivialities. Write fast! You're angry, grrr! Make that show, and forget about things like capital letters, punctuation, and verbs.
Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 11-29-2001 08:27:31 AM
quote:
Koska Kintaro had this to say about (_|_):
Kinda sad really. Nintendo will never again be a serious game developer.

For the sin of underestimating the mature gaming crowd, they're doomed to cater to the pokemon niche for all eternity.


If you consider 'doomed' controlling 3 out of the top 5 selling games for the past 2 years...them damn I want to be doomed too =)

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
Chalesm
There is no innuendo in this title.
posted 11-29-2001 08:51:28 AM
quote:
Koska Kintaro had this to say about Punky Brewster:
Kinda sad really. Nintendo will never again be a serious game developer.

For the sin of underestimating the mature gaming crowd, they're doomed to cater to the pokemon niche for all eternity.


Well, they've still got the handheld market under an iron fist, and they finally seem to be figuring out what I've been ranting about for years, that RPG's are ideally suited to handheld consoles (long playtimes, intense graphics not necessary), so if we're lucky we may yet see some real gems in the handheld market.

In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Douglas Adams, 1952-2001

Pesco
Is a copyright of Peachis. Don't underestimate his pants, either.
posted 11-29-2001 09:20:14 AM
quote:
KaLourin DthBlayde had this to say about Duck Tales:
Think of it this way. Unlike a PC, you will never have to upgrade an Xbox, because the games will always be made to that systems specs.[/small]

You may not upgrade, but I will place my bets you will *PATCH* the XBox. 10GB Hard Drives are not needed on a console, that is WAY overkill. Oh wait, this is Microsoft, that 7 GB of data is going to be patches for the games and the XBox itself...

Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 11-29-2001 09:30:50 AM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Reynar was all like:
If you consider 'doomed' controlling 3 out of the top 5 selling games for the past 2 years...them damn I want to be doomed too =)

...and they were all pokemon games.

Random Insanity Generator
Condom Ninja El Supremo
posted 11-29-2001 09:31:27 AM
I'll probally buy an XBox when I can run Linux on it.

Just for spite...

They'll eventually add back in the standard com ports or jack in an ethernet port....

* NullDevice kicks the server. "Floggings will continue until processing power improves!"
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Suddar Williams
SUDAR WILAMS
posted 11-29-2001 09:33:46 AM
Erhm...wasn't the Playstation a 166 MHz system or something? And we continued using this 166 MHz and loving it even though we've broken the 1 GHz mark for computer processors?

The only thing that harddrive would probably function as is a memory card. What the hell's the problem here? The X-box sounds like a damn nice console. Remember, these things are optimized for gaming. You aren't going to have programs running in the background, and you don't need to be able to play PC games even though it's built like a PC. I really fail to see how this is different from any other console out there.

Somebody enlighten me?

Reynar
Oldest Member
Best Lap
posted 11-29-2001 10:28:39 AM
quote:
Koska Kintaro had this to say about John Romero:
...and they were all pokemon games.

Point being? Nintendo is just as popular as ever, only with the younger crowd. Nintendo has always had kids as their target audience.

Nothing has really changed, you just grew out of it, as did many of us.

"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes its laws."
-Mayer Rothschild
KaLourin
Illanae's Stooge!
posted 11-29-2001 11:53:05 AM
quote:
Pesco had this to say about Captain Planet:
You may not upgrade, but I will place my bets you will *PATCH* the XBox. 10GB Hard Drives are not needed on a console, that is WAY overkill. Oh wait, this is Microsoft, that 7 GB of data is going to be patches for the games and the XBox itself...

Mmm, point well taken. An aspect I hadn't considered.

Dont make me slap you so hard your bucket spins around, and around,and stops sideways,thus confusing you, and making you run about London wearing your bucket, a g-string, and carrying a stick,smacking the ground while yelling "MAGICALLY DELICIOUS! MAGICALLY FUCKING DELICIOUS!"- {Tal} to Mortious
Hebrew 9:3- 'And the Lord said unto me, "Dude, there isn't a K in covenant."' - Snoota

This beer drops trou and fucks your mouth with pure hoppy goodness. - Karnaj
Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 11-29-2001 11:56:41 AM
Nintendo's blown it with the consoles.

Nintendo's got it in the bag with hand helds.

Sounds OK to me.

I believe in the existance of magic, not because I have seen proof of its existance, but because I refuse to live in a world where it does not exist.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 11-29-2001 11:58:50 AM
quote:
We were all impressed when Suddar Williams wrote:
Erhm...wasn't the Playstation a 166 MHz system or something? And we continued using this 166 MHz and loving it even though we've broken the 1 GHz mark for computer processors?

Playstation was 66mhz. Even the PSOne is 66mhz. They really should have increased the power a bit for the PSOne...

Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 11-29-2001 12:02:29 PM
quote:
Reynar had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Point being?

quote:
Originally posted by Me:
they're doomed to cater to the pokemon niche for all eternity.

One thing has changed: Any hope of anywhere near as much third party developer attention as a "real" game console.

And no, they aren't as popular as they ever were. Gamecube's japan release was officially the most indifferent reception of a game console in the history of game consoles.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 11-29-2001 12:03:54 PM
Maradon, its simple.

This is bad because its microsoft.

Had the system said Sony or Nintendo on it instead, it would be hailed as the new era in gaming.

But since its microsoft its evil.

Fal

Koska Kintaro
Not Banned Yet
posted 11-29-2001 12:05:10 PM
I go with The Gord on this one.

Cooler head prevail And it is kinda his business and all.

Caanis Lupus
Rub me?
posted 11-29-2001 12:14:50 PM
quote:
Koska Kintaro had this to say:
I go with The Gord on this one.

Cooler head prevail And it is kinda his business and all.


The Gord is all knowing. Respect The Gord.

I am still rereading his stuff...

Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 11-29-2001 12:48:37 PM
Damn, I need to go through and catch up on the Gord!
The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Drysart
Pancake
posted 11-29-2001 01:28:13 PM
quote:
Kegwen Tabibito had this to say about John Romero:
This is so sad.

Damn you, MS.


What the hell were you expecting to be inside the XBox? Confetti?

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 11-29-2001 01:34:08 PM
*reads Drysart's post, sighs, cancels his order for the Xbox and looks for other arrangements for his birthday party.*
Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 11-29-2001 01:39:59 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about dark elf butts:
*reads Drysart's post, sighs, cancels his order for the Xbox and looks for other arrangements for his birthday party.*

I'm enjoying the hell out of my XBOX. I could care less what people say the specs are. I think it looks and runs great and I've got no complaints.

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 11-29-2001 01:42:56 PM
Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! NO! It's THE JOKE!

And it's flying over Bajah's head!

adenine!
Closet Republican
posted 11-29-2001 01:45:06 PM
I don't understand what the big deal is with the Xbox being a PC. So this just more evidence that PCs are superior to more conventional consoles. I don't know about everyone else, but I want hard drives and ethernet ports in game consoles. No more memory cards. Built in Internet capability. Same price as PS2. Disadvantages, anyone? I think not.
Bajah
Thooooooor
posted 11-29-2001 01:45:49 PM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! NO! It's THE JOKE!

And it's flying over Bajah's head!


hahah, I guess it would have helped if I read Drysart's post, too

/shame

King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 11-29-2001 01:47:01 PM
*replaces Bajah's purple tophat with a large conical reading: DUNCE
Motiak
Pancake
posted 11-29-2001 01:58:29 PM
I could be crazy but I like not having to buy a memory card, not having to buy an adapter to have 4 controllers, not having to buy an adapter to let me use broadband, and I like having good graphics in the games. As previously pointed out, the PSX was only 66 mhz and it did decent graphics, just think of what these next waves of consoles will be able to do.

*cough* http://www.bigbluebox.com/images/game/eurolaunch_04.jpg http://www.bigbluebox.com/images/game/eurolaunch_05.jpg http://www.bigbluebox.com/images/game/eurolaunch_10.jpg *cough*

go to Cicinimo's webpage www.artpad.org
"Bear with me while I speak, and after I have spoken, mock on." -Job 21:3
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 11-29-2001 04:16:33 PM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about Cuba:
What the hell were you expecting to be inside the XBox? Confetti?

That'd be nice, sure.

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