She reminds me a lot of Roald Dahl.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Anyway, overall, ON THE BOOKS, I love it. But the only thing I hate is where she tells what happened in the previous books. It't like, "Go fucking buy the others and read them prior to this one, damn it!"
Hmm, I wrote too much.
If I say what I think, people will probably jump down my throat shouting about how I hate everything for no reason [ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Maradon? ]
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Originally posted by Maradon?:
No, I don't like them.It's like the fantasy equivalent of R.L. Stine's "Goosebumps" books. Hastily produced, lacking atmosphere and content, and not terribly challenging on an intellectual level.
Granted I've only bothered to read one, but that was plenty for me.
To be honest, I didn't care for them either, but aren't you being a little harsh?
They were intended for children.
Also, they don't seem to be compleated too hastily, unlike R.L Stine who writes 53 books a week, 51 of them having essentially the same plot.
And you don't know that, Quizamo. James and the Giant Peach and The Witches were great movies. The boy they picked for Harry looks just like him, and he's British, so no fake ass accents. I think it'll turn out to be good.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Originally posted by Stane:
To be honest, I didn't care for them either, but aren't you being a little harsh?They were intended for children.
I didn't say anything harsh at all, I just elaborated on the statement that they're intended for children.
I don't like anything intended for children. I didn't even like things intended for children when I was a child [ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Maradon? ]
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Originally posted by Maradon?:
I didn't say anything harsh at all, I just elaborated on the statement that they're intended for children.I don't like anything intended for children. I didn't even like things intended for children when I was a child
Fair enough.
I disliked them for the same reason, though I can't deny they were well written.
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Originally posted by Maradon?:
I didn't even like things intended for children when I was a child
Why does the emphasis (his) on the word was make me laugh?
I've not read them so cannot judge, I haven't had the time to read any of the 50 books I have waiting to be read. I may take the Autumn to see the movie, she is starting to get interested in books and I want to encourage her.
They do keep you going and are a very nice and well written light read... I read Chamber of Secrets (don't like that one as much as the others to be honest) in one night lol
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I don't like anything intended for children. I didn't even like things intended for children when I was a child [/
I know what you mean, I feel the same way. They make things for children so... well, stupid.
So don't think of it as something intended for children, just think of them as books to read that might be entertaining. Cause they are, I borrowed the first three from my little sister and read them all in one night.
And Lord of the Rings books r0xx0red
Also, the were talking about having Haley Joel Osment play harry... but they got over that when JK Rowling insitisted on Brit actors, or no movie, and a book accurate movie, or no movie. =P
Wee!
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Originally posted by Kanid:
The Hobbit was "inteded for children"
Was not!
Even if it were, the idea of "intended for children" was a little different back then. Have you even read old school fairly tales? [ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Maradon? ]
The original fairy tales, as recorded mostly by the Brother's Grimm, were intended for adults, and have been edited many many times.
Edit after Maradon's post: The Brothers Grimm fairy tales were NOT children's stories by any means.. they've been softened over the years, and most people accept that the Disney versions are how they started, but it's not true... Go read their version of Sleeping Beauty sometime.. [ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Kilauea ]
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Originally posted by Modrakien:
I'd post on this thread, but if I agree with Maradon one more time I'll be banned for beeing a fake account .
LOL.
The original fairy tales were full of sex and sexual situations. They've been cleaned up for younger audiences because adults are too jaded to enjoy them anymore. Kinda like TMNT...
Reading The Essential Ellison right now though.
Also reading far to many books about JavaScript and Flash. *twitch*
I plan to see the movie, but if I don't get to see it until it's out on video, I won't be heartbroken about it. But I am eagerly awaiting the next book. [ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: Katjya ]
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Originally posted by Kanid:
Tolkien wrote The Hobbit for his children or grandchildren, I forget at this time. (I'm over 30, memory is the second thing to go, I forget what the first thing was...)
Actually, he just wrote it. (Not for anyone in paticular, that is. ) He plopped down into his chair one day, took a blank leaflet, and wrote, "In a hole in the ground, there lived a hobbit."
That's how it started.
I could be wrong, so hit me if I am.
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Originally posted by Katjya:
I enjoyed the books a lot. But then, I've always been able to enjoy a book as long as it was well-written and had a good plot. I never cared if it was intended for an adult or a child. Which probably explains why I took Watership Down and For Whom the Bell Tolls to sleep-away camp the summer after 5th grade.
Hemingway rules, and Watership Down is one of my favorite books of all time.
Blame Maradon for the smiley.
Of course, you have to realize that Asimov was thinking of and writing all these things in the 50s-80s, so...
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Originally posted by Delphi:
Bah.. If ya want real good fiction, read Asimov's Foundation, and the books set in the same universe. They're all well written, and very in depth reads.Of course, you have to realize that Asimov was thinking of and writing all these things in the 50s-80s, so...
I loved the Foundation series, I recommend it to.. Everyone.
(I read so much, sometimes they all blend together.)
Heinlein rules - Strange in a Strange Land and Friday are two of my favorites.
Great series, unique in many ways, but not definative Sci-Fi to me.
Unedited Stranger in Strange Land rules all.
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Originally posted by Kalah:
why is Frank Herbert familiar - what did he write?(I read so much, sometimes they all blend together.)
Heinlein rules - Strange in a Strange Land and Friday are two of my favorites.
The Dune series. I just picked the first one up but havent had a chance to read it yet.
I think memory loss starts at twenty.
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Originally posted by Kanid:
Frank Herbert : DuneGreat series, unique in many ways, but not definative Sci-Fi to me.
Unedited Stranger in Strange Land rules all.
I rember reading that Heinlein Never was happy/like Stranger in a Strange Land much, nor was he With starship Trooper- Both his most widely read works. ( I think I rember reading this in one of those collection of stories and writeing he put together and edited)
Though if your a reallly big Heinlein fan, Go out and Find Number of the Beast.
They were cleaned up slightly and aimed more toward children to teach them lessons in being good.
Take Beauty and the Beast. That's not a story about beauty being only skin deep. It was a story for girls to read and realize that Beauty was rewarded because she was good and obedient.
That was the sort of thing fairy tales were meant to accomplish. Now they just entertain. Not really complaining, though, because ideas like those are pretty out of date.
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I'e just been overexposed to the good stuff. I don't care if it's meant for kids. I've been told many, many times that adults can get into it too, and... I never did. It's not even a good children's book. No adventure, no sense of danger, no nothing. Just... it.
I'm comparing this to the other children's story I know that immediately pops into mind that's been praised like this. The Neverending Story. Again, maybe I've been overexposed to the good stuff, but side my side Harry Potter falls so short it looks like a dwarf earthworm. I STILL pore through The Neverending Story now, poking and reading and checking and romping along. I never got to romp with Harry Potter. Just sort of meander, getting bored and asking "Are we there yet?" alot. Again, there's no sense of danger, no sense of adventure, even when the stuff that's supposed to be exciting is going on.
And if you look at the Disneyfief fairy tales, yeah, it's getting pathetic nowadays. What should be read to kids more often is old myths and stories, Greek, Celtic, stuff like that...