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Topic: WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY TEACHING KIDS!!!!!!
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:06:54 PM
Warning Much anger is contained in this post.

So today I had the chance to read through an American history book.
A few things made me want to throw the book away and scream.

First of all.
According to this waste of paper the Civil war was started over slavery!!! Uhh excuse me but the Civil war was started over States Rights. Slavery was only used as an excuse when the people started to get disillusioned with the war and Lincoln needed something to motivate them.
It also makes Lincoln out to be some great man. And it had this great quote. "President Abraham Lincoln did more to promote freedom in this country than any other man". What utter bullshit. He is the president who broke more laws and ignored more parts of the constitution that perhaps any other (Maybe Clinton was worse but I doubt even that)

Next the revolutionary war. You know the one where we kicked the British out and told them to stay out. (Not that they listened)
Well it talked about how it would have been better to negotiate for our freedom. Yes that is right. A HISTORY book is giving suggestions on how we should have done things instead of just telling how it happened. It made the Americans out to be the bad guys.
I won't even get into how it takes a political stance on guns and how they have been used in history.
I could go on an on for hours about this. But I am really to pissed and don't want to rant to much.
I am just so pissed right now I could spit. Why are they lying to our children? Didn't the Nazi's try that as well? Rewriting history to fit what they wanted.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 12-20-2001 04:10:47 PM
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Lashanna
noob
posted 12-20-2001 04:12:34 PM
Well, I'm not saying it's good, but it's better than the history books I had where America was a pure and holy crusader that could do no wrong.
Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 12-20-2001 04:13:23 PM
LOl shut up
we all know the history is all made up and we are really just an experment anyway

GOOD some people

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Darius!
Pancake
posted 12-20-2001 04:13:30 PM
Bill Clinton was a damn good president. Cheating on his wife has nothing to do with being president.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 12-20-2001 04:15:15 PM
quote:
Lashanna wrote this:
Well, I'm not saying it's good, but it's better than the history books I had where America was a pure and holy crusader that could do no wrong.

Shhhh! Don't break Azizza's view, he's insane white trash.. uh.. I mean patriotic.

Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 12-20-2001 04:17:00 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on First Dragon!
Bill Clinton was a damn good president. Cheating on his wife has nothing to do with being president.

Is that taught in history lessons already?

(Not an attempt to hijack, move on)

~Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown.
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:19:59 PM
quote:
Mortious Shadowstalker had this to say about Tron:
Shhhh! Don't break Azizza's view, he's insane white trash.. uh.. I mean patriotic.

Mort you just lost any respect I had for you you piece of shit. Go to hell.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:21:11 PM
quote:
First Dragon wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Bill Clinton was a damn good president. Cheating on his wife has nothing to do with being president.

I wasn't even refering to the Whole cheating thing. That is his personal life. I was refering to the constant attacks on freedom in america.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 12-20-2001 04:22:23 PM
quote:
Azizza wrote this stupid crap:
Mort you just lost any respect I had for you you piece of shit. Go to hell.

your respect is VALUABLE!?!?!?!

whoa....

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 12-20-2001 04:22:42 PM
We don't learn history just for the hell of it. We learn it because of the valuable lessons which our ancestors learned, so we can avoid learning them the hard way.

That said, I do disagree with the comments regarding the revolution. The colonists pleaded their case for years, to no avail.
What's a guy gotta do to get some god damn tea around here?!

While I do agree that the political motives surrounding the Civil War should be expounded upon, I do not agree that Lincoln was a poor President, or a bad person in general. Honestly, I don't even see where that part came from

[EDIT] D'OH, meant to mention Lashanna's post too; sorry about that.
Anyway, yeah, I read a couple of those glowing histories. One of the greatest delights of my twelve years was reading one book which chastised the Spanish-American War

For those unfamiliar with it, the S-A War was instigated by the States in order to acquire more territory in the West.

[SECOND EDIT] Confusing syntax... GO!

[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Sentow ]

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Lashanna
noob
posted 12-20-2001 04:23:23 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Azizza wrote:
Mort you just lost any respect I had for you you piece of shit. Go to hell.

Oh no...

Poor Mort...
Whatever shall he do?

Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 12-20-2001 04:24:37 PM
quote:
Azizza had this to say about Duck Tales:
Mort you just lost any respect I had for you you piece of shit. Go to hell.

Well, then, you're probably on even terms, now.

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 12-20-2001 04:27:01 PM
quote:
Mortious Shadowstalker had this to say about Duck Tales:
Shhhh! Don't break Azizza's view, he's insane white trash.. uh.. I mean patriotic.

Haha, pure truthitudes!

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:30:15 PM
Oh white trash huh? This coming from you?
And how exactly do you come to this conclusion? The fact that I actually believe in something?
The fact that I stand up for what I think and believe?


White trash are idiodic rednecks who can barely spell their own name. I am afraid I don't fit into that category.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 12-20-2001 04:31:20 PM
can i wear the hat now Azzia?

*takes the large pointed hat with the words "Dunce" on it and sits down*

MY TURN MY TURN!

the holocost WASNT REAL! hehehe

wooo this is FUN FUN FUN!

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Mr. Duck
Likes to ____!
posted 12-20-2001 04:32:53 PM
with the ways this thread is going, i can finally use the stfu pic ^o^


depening on where ever you are, the teaching will be different. like in the north you will learn the south started the civil war. if you are in the south i think you learn that the north started the war. not 100% sure of this,just something i been told before .

[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Mr. Duck ]

Lashanna
noob
posted 12-20-2001 04:34:14 PM
Azizza, there's a difference between believing in something, and blind faith.
You tend to be stubborn, conservative, Patriotic, and Gunloving to a fault, and it shows, and to a lot of people that screams White Trash...

At least be a logical Patriot...
and as for white trash... Well, you'd be surprised how well they can blend in with normal society.
Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:34:45 PM
quote:
Lawgiver Cadga had this to say about Punky Brewster:
can i wear the hat now Azzia?

*takes the large pointed hat with the words "Dunce" on it and sits down*

MY TURN MY TURN!

the holocost WASNT REAL! hehehe

wooo this is FUN FUN FUN!



What the hell are you talking about?
"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 12-20-2001 04:35:13 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Mr. Duck wrote:
with the ways this thread is going, i can finally use the stfu pic ^o^

Victoly!

But it'll probably get locked within two hours, tops

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 12-20-2001 04:35:30 PM
quote:
Lawgiver Cadga had this to say about Punky Brewster:
can i wear the hat now Azzia?

*takes the large pointed hat with the words "Dunce" on it and sits down*

MY TURN MY TURN!

the holocost WASNT REAL! hehehe

wooo this is FUN FUN FUN!


We never landed on the moon! Because JFK was a damn baby-eating DEMOCRAT he lied to us and so everyone loves him! There can't be a breeze or KINETIC ENERGY on the MOON!!!!

You're right, Cadga. That is fun.

Norann
Loves Pokemon
posted 12-20-2001 04:37:00 PM
* Takes the hat from Cadga. *

Now you are making way too much sense so Im taking this till you can be responsible enough to speak the way you should.

* Hands the hat back to Azizza. *

If Hitler had sent the French to the death camps would anyone have cared?
Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender monkeys.
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:37:47 PM
quote:
Lashanna had this to say about Cuba:
Azizza, there's a difference between believing in something, and blind faith.
You tend to be stubborn, conservative, Patriotic, and Gunloving to a fault, and it shows, and to a lot of people that screams White Trash...

At least be a logical Patriot...
and as for white trash... Well, you'd be surprised how well they can blend in with normal society.



Ahh but for it to be white trash I would be uneducated, racist(ok those two are the same thing), have no skills, and care about nothing else but Beer, women, guns, and beer.

This is not the case and everyone knows it.
Mort made an attempt to start a flame on this thread and I was already in a bad enough mood to oblige him. That was my mistake.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Akiraiu Zenko
Is actually a giddy schoolgirl
posted 12-20-2001 04:39:18 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Sentow was all like:
Victoly!

But it'll probably get locked within two hours, tops


Oh, I HOPE not!

The artist formerly known as Zephyer Kyuukaze.
Radience
Pancake
posted 12-20-2001 04:40:45 PM
The "truth" of history is always written through the eyes of the culture evaluating it. It'd be interesting to read a British History book about the Revolutionary war. Quite a different perspective there, eh.
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 12-20-2001 04:43:26 PM
quote:
Radience stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
The "truth" of history is always written through the eyes of the culture evaluating it. It'd be interesting to read a British History book about the Revolutionary war. Quite a different perspective there, eh.

ever read the french veriosn of WW 1 and 2?

goes soemthign like this?

*covers his eyes*
WHY WONT THEY STO PFIGHTING!! WAAAAAAA MOOMMY!

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Lashanna
noob
posted 12-20-2001 04:43:37 PM
quote:
Azizza had this to say about pies:


Ahh but for it to be white trash I would be uneducated, racist(ok those two are the same thing), have no skills, and care about nothing else but Beer, women, guns, and beer.


Well, you have the guns and women part, and I don't know anything about your drinking habits, .
Dad's going to kill you. Really. He is.
Solstyce
Vampiric pixie that might eat your face, if you're lucky
posted 12-20-2001 04:46:27 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Sentow was all like:
Victoly!

But it'll probably get locked within two hours, tops


Screw that. Lock it now. This is a waste of space.

*has no respect for people who start threads that just BEG for flames*

Shhh. Everyone will hear us. Everyone will know.
Sentow, Maybe
Pancake
posted 12-20-2001 04:47:06 PM
quote:
Lawgiver Cadga had this to say about Pirotess:
ever read the french veriosn of WW 1 and 2?

goes soemthign like this?

*covers his eyes*
WHY WONT THEY STO PFIGHTING!! WAAAAAAA MOOMMY!


Dude, that's so cold. Yet, so funny

Once more into the breach, my friends, once more. We'll close the wall with our dead. In peace, nothing so becomes a man as modesty and humility, but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with rage and lend the eye a terrible aspect.
Drysart
Pancake
posted 12-20-2001 04:47:19 PM
quote:
Check out the big brain on Azizza!
I wasn't even refering to the Whole cheating thing. That is his personal life. I was refering to the constant attacks on freedom in america.

Man you must really be livid about the current Bush administration then.

Vorbis
Vend-A-Goat
posted 12-20-2001 04:47:32 PM
quote:
Lawgiver Cadga had this to say about John Romero:
ever read the french veriosn of WW 1 and 2?

goes soemthign like this?

*covers his eyes*
WHY WONT THEY STO PFIGHTING!! WAAAAAAA MOOMMY!



bwahahahah.

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:48:11 PM
quote:
Lashanna had this to say about Tron:
[QUOTE]Azizza had this to say about pies:
[qb]

Ahh but for it to be white trash I would be uneducated, racist(ok those two are the same thing), have no skills, and care about nothing else but Beer, women, guns, and beer.


Well, you have the guns and women part, and I don't know anything about your drinking habits, .[/QB][/QUOTE]

LOL Well I am not a womanizer(sp?) Just a flirt, and I dont' drink.
Also let me elaborate here.
To me calling someone white trash is like calling a Black Person a N***er.
It is about as derogitory as you can get. An insult that in person would quickly land you in the middle of a fight.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:49:50 PM
quote:
Solstyce had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Screw that. Lock it now. This is a waste of space.

*has no respect for people who start threads that just BEG for flames*


And how did I start this thread to "beg for a flame"?
Just explain that to me.
I am pissed because a History book that is supposed to teach children is in fact teaching them lies.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 04:50:53 PM
quote:
Drysart had this to say about dark elf butts:
Man you must really be livid about the current Bush administration then.

More than you can imagiane. LOL.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
Cadga
Quite Insane
posted 12-20-2001 04:51:50 PM
quote:
Azizza had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
And how did I start this thread to "beg for a flame"?
Just explain that to me.
I am pissed because a History book that is supposed to teach children is in fact teaching them lies.

dems be da bad lurnins? or dems be da gud lurnins!!>?!??!

i gradiated 6th grade it only toof me 1..

*counts his fingers*

DAT MANY TIMES

Professional Sinner/Heretic
My mindless dribble
Kloie
tunactsunamooon
posted 12-20-2001 04:52:31 PM
quote:
Azizza impressed everyone with:
WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY TEACHING KIDS!!!!!!

HEY KIDS, IT'S "ACTUAL TEST QUESTIONS" TIME!!!

TODAY, ON MY SEMESTER TEST IN OKLAHOMA HISTORY, THE QUESTION WAS:

Why were the Indians hindered from technical advancement?
A) [Something.]
B) [Something.]
C) They had no wheel.
D) They wasn't very smart.

DING DING DING! THE ANSWER IS D, "COACH STOVER OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T PASS ENGLISH IN HIGH SCHOOL".

SEE YA NEXT TIME, ON "ACTUAL TEST QUESTIONS".

Oh and I know most of you haven't taken Oklahoma History, but I'd have to say that easily over 70% of it is about how the Indians got fucked out of their land.

[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Kloie ]

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 12-20-2001 04:53:34 PM
quote:
Azizza had this to say about Optimus Prime:
I am pissed because a History book that is supposed to teach children is in fact teaching them lies.

But you think it's lies because it is different from what you were taught or studied.

But, since none of us were there, we rely on each writers perspective of what happened during that time.

Just my POV.

Kinanik
Upset about being titless
posted 12-20-2001 04:56:48 PM
How do you know what you were taught was right?
Gully Foyle is my name
And Terra is my nation
Deep space is my dwelling place
The stars my destination
Darius!
Pancake
posted 12-20-2001 04:59:11 PM
I agree completely with ImNotTrent and Kinanik.
That is all.

Watches Azi get shot down some more.

[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: First Dragon ]

Azizza
VANDERSHANKED
posted 12-20-2001 05:21:05 PM
Well lets see. Which am I going to believe is the truth. Something that has been taught for yeas and years. Or a book that all of the sudden comes out and teaches something completely different.

And Documents can prove everything that I said in my original post. So that would incline me to think that this book is full of shit.

"Pacifism is a privilege of the protected"
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