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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Noxhil2 who doth quote:
Health care in the U.S. operates on the assumption that you have health insurance. Most people do. You do not. If you get prostate cancer tomorrow, guess who will pick up the costs for treating you? Then the hospitals have to pass on the costs in increased prices to everyone.
Except the US government, not the health industry, picks up the tab for legally obliged medical care. It's a part of medicaid.
Either way, though, you're still arguing against collective medicine, not against people who choose not to have insurance.
Anyway, if I had even a remote chance of getting that sick, I would get insurance obviously.
OH CHRIST
SOMETHING BAD MIGHT HAPPEN
I BETTER PAY $300 A MONTH FOR NOTHING
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Maradon! impressed everyone with:
OH GODOH CHRIST
SOMETHING BAD MIGHT HAPPEN
I BETTER PAY $300 A MONTH FOR NOTHING
this is one of your dumbest opinions ever just fyi
Last summer I had a hernia removed (birth defect), and the hospital bill was over $60,000. Health insurance paid almost every cent.
When we got the bill saying how much owed the hospital after insurance, there was a form on the back of the paper for financial help so we could pay it off over time. Willias fucked around with this message on 01-30-2008 at 01:14 AM.
Maybe you should look into a plan like that, Bill.
But then again, you've had to declare bankruptcy so making smart decisions with your money obviously isn't your strong suit. Blindy. fucked around with this message on 01-30-2008 at 09:15 AM.
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x--Blindy.O-('-'Q) :
My insurance costs $5 a month. I've got one of those high deductible health saving plans. I also put $50 a month into the HSA, but, see, I get to keep that money if I don't get sick, for ever and ever. And it earns 2.5% interest over time. I've got $3,000 in it now. If I do get sick (or need emergency surgery) or whatever, the most I could be out for in a year is $2,000 of the money I've got squirreled away. After that, the insurance kicks in and covers me up to $5,000,000.Maybe you should look into a plan like that, Bill.
Well look at that, Blindy actually said something worth reading for once! I'll ask him if you need to get this through your employer for it to be that cheap or-
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But then again, you've had to declare bankruptcy so making smart decisions with your money obviously isn't your strong suit.
-Oh shucks, there he goes being a complete asshole for no reason again! And this was so close to not being a shitpost, too.
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x--ZairO-('-'Q) :
Bump for the big McCain win in Florida. He is now the definite frontrunner going into Super Tuesday.
Also I missed this shit. McCain did not have a "big win" in florida, he beat Romney by 5 points which is nothing major at all. He got all of florida's delegates though because florida has fucked up winner-take-all primary voting.
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How.... Maradon!.... uughhhhhh:
Also I missed this shit. McCain did not have a "big win" in florida, he beat Romney by 5 points which is nothing major at all. He got all of florida's delegates though because florida has fucked up winner-take-all primary voting.
By big win, I meant, it was very important for McCain to show he could win in a closed Republican primary. Something he couldn't do in 2000.
edit: and now he looks like the frontrunner to a lot of people, which is important going into super Tuesday. So it was a big win for his campaign. Zair fucked around with this message on 01-30-2008 at 08:00 PM.
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Maradon! obviously shouldn't have said:
-Oh shucks, there he goes being a complete asshole for no reason again! And this was so close to not being a shitpost, too.
I'm on the same plan, though it costs me a little more... and I did have to get it through my employer. They cover 80% of the total cost, so the total premium is something like 80 a month, but if you're getting it on your own it's probably significantly more.
Probably polishing guns or being the witless sidekick to an action hero.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Kegwen who doth quote:
Why are the general elections still winner takes all anyway?
So the concerns of regions with low population density can have equal representation before the executive branch. Same reason every state gets 2 senators regardless of population.
"True democracy" is just a pretty name for mob rule.
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Over the mountain, in between the ups and downs, I ran into Arttemis who doth quote:
I'm on the same plan, though it costs me a little more... and I did have to get it through my employer. They cover 80% of the total cost, so the total premium is something like 80 a month, but if you're getting it on your own it's probably significantly more.
Ah, so the real trick is to have a really great job. Of course, if I had a really great job, I probably wouldn't need to skimp on health insurance!
One of the side effects of a HD/HSA plan is that the money spent on health costs is the employees money- since they get to keep it if they don't spend it. You get these in at your company and annual health care cost per employee drops by about 40% instantly, because people stop going to the doctor for every freaking sore throat they get and only go when they really have to. As such, the cost of a HD/HSA plan only goes up at an average of 4% per year, while most HMO's go up around 12% per year.
I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't see them in every company within the next 5 years or so.
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Maradon!'s unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Ah, so the real trick is to have a really great job. Of course, if I had a really great job, I probably wouldn't need to skimp on health insurance!
You should try having a really great job, it's easy and lets you buy cool stuff
I looked into it and the plan that I'm on isn't available through my provider if you're buying as an individual... the closest comparable thing has a $2000 annual deductible, after which point you pay 20% of just about everything. That was something like $120 a month were I to apply for it.
Everyone's jumping on Maradon for not having health insurance, but I know if my employer didn't offer it I probably wouldn't either... I hardly ever use mine, and I'm a tightwad when it comes to pretty much everything except my toys.
EDIT: Although really you don't need a "really great job"... I work for a small engineering firm (~20 people) and the reason they chose to offer this plan is because it's one of the cheaper plans available Arttemis fucked around with this message on 01-30-2008 at 10:44 PM.
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This insanity brought to you by Arttemis:
EDIT: Although really you don't need a "really great job"... I work for a small engineering firm (~20 people) and the reason they chose to offer this plan is because it's one of the cheaper plans available
I always imagined your job as being a weird dude who patrols rooftops with a sniper rifle, sunglasses, a twist-brim hat and an Australian accent.
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
I always imagined your job as being a weird dude who patrols rooftops with a sniper rifle, sunglasses, a twist-brim hat and an Australian accent.
In a perfect world...
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Mr. Parcelan thought about the meaning of life:
I always imagined your job as being a weird dude who patrols rooftops with a sniper rifle, sunglasses, a twist-brim hat and an Australian accent.
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Quoth Kegwen:
Why are the general elections still winner takes all anyway?
If you want to know why proportional representation is a bad idea, study Italy.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
65 to 70% of people who identify themselves as republicans have said they would never vote for McCain.
I'm getting all this off the radio so I can't source any of it, but it doesn't seem at all far fetched. Anyone who pays even cursory attention to politics knows that McCain is only a hair less liberal than Hillary.
Some good news is that McCain's campaign is basically broke. Even with federal campaign fund matching he basically has nothing going into super tuesday.
But damn, it gets hot when you cram 1000 people into a dining room fit for 200 people.
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Maradon! had this to say about Cuba:
Ron Paul supporters are the only ones on either side of the fence with any lasting enthusiasm at all.
retards tend to be a little enthusiastic..about something or another
"I always vote for the more conservative candidate, and in the case of Hillary versus John McCain, that candidate is clearly Hillary Clinton. We hate Hillary because she supports and votes for the bills that John McCain wrote."
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Maradon! isn't in Kansas anymore:
Haha, Ann Coulter on Sean Hannity's radio show today:"I always vote for the more conservative candidate, and in the case of Hillary versus John McCain, that candidate is clearly Hillary Clinton. We hate Hillary because she supports and votes for the bills that John McCain wrote."
So in the event of McCain vs Clinton, you will vote for Clinton, Maradon?
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Peanut butter ass Shaq Blindy. booooze lime pole over bench lick:
So in the event of McCain vs Clinton, you will vote for Clinton, Maradon?
That is what the title of the thread says!
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Blindy. wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
So in the event of McCain vs Clinton, you will vote for Clinton, Maradon?
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Delphi Aegis said, IN THE FIRST REPLY:
Even if Hillary is on the democratic ticket?
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Maradon! said, IN THE SECOND REPLY (to the first reply, amazingly enough):
Especially if Hillary is the nominee.
Learn to read >:[
In your pants
Ew...
He can get the press and possible extra Democratic voters switching over, for being the first "bi-partisan" team running for president/VP, even though, they are really very, very similar in their views and votes.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Maradon! was all like:
I think I would actually have sex with Hillary before voting for John McCain.
So you're going for the intern job then?
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ACES! Another post by Pvednes:
So you're going for the intern job then?
Only if it doesn't have a mandatory health insurance plan!
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Maradon! must think they're pretty smart:
That is what the title of the thread says!
Yeah but I can't believe it.
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Blindy.ing:
Yeah but I can't believe it.
Is it really that hard to believe that I'd see Hillary as the lesser of two evils? Sure, she's a hardline socialist. She publicly describes herself as a member of the early progressive movement, a movement that idealized Mussolini and other european authoritarians and command economies.
John McCain is worse. The only difference between McCain and Hillary is bust size, but Hillary will at least attempt to appease public sentiment. McCain absolutely refuses to compromise his asinine ideology for anything, including the will of the people. That would be an admirable trait if he wasn't absolutely wrong about everything. Maradon! fucked around with this message on 02-02-2008 at 07:47 PM.
