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Ares
posted 01-17-2008 05:23:12 PM
I'm just happy that I now have 4g.

And that I upped all of my talents with the trainer.

Mightion Defensor
posted 01-17-2008 08:51:44 PM
Once you have the epic flight training, your money problems are over. Grinding up Netherwing faction pays very well, as do pretty much all the daily quests now.
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 01-17-2008 09:19:29 PM
quote:
Mightion Defensor said:
Once you have the epic flight training, your money problems are over. Grinding up Netherwing faction pays very well, as do pretty much all the daily quests now.

I watched a friend playing WoW on his computer. It seemed incredibly easy with absolutely no risk whatsoever.

Confirm/Deny

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-17-2008 09:28:15 PM
quote:
Mortious had this to say about John Romero:
I watched a friend playing WoW on his computer. It seemed incredibly easy with absolutely no risk whatsoever.

Confirm/Deny


As of about 2.2, they started putting in a LOT of stuff to be more "newbie" friendly. Things like tracking for all characters that allows you to locate reagent/repair/whatever vendors, class trainers, etc. Gigantic fucking yellow "!" and "?" on your minimap and cursor, whatever ground quest objective you have to find now sparkles, etc.

Honestly, I don't remember who said it, but 1-60 is character creation and mechanic learning. 61-70 is character training. There is some strategery used in raiding, but it's more liken to "Hit this button in this order for twelve minutes" for DPS classes, "Hit this healy button over and over" for healers and "Spam the same three buttons" for tanks. Perhaps I oversimplify, but there you have it.

Edit: I also may be a tad jaded. I hear there are some interesting fights in Hyjal and Zul'Aman. Though it's still a wad of bullshit you have to wade through to get there first. (Moreso Hyjal, less-so ZA.)

Delphi Aegis fucked around with this message on 01-17-2008 at 09:34 PM.

Willias
Pancake
posted 01-17-2008 09:56:35 PM
quote:
From the book of Mortious, chapter 3, verse 16:
I watched a friend playing WoW on his computer. It seemed incredibly easy with absolutely no risk whatsoever.

Confirm/Deny


You can get into trouble solo as some classes if you get multiple mobs, or tackle elite mobs, and in dungeons you can get in trouble of you don't bring a balanced enough group or someone screws up/does something very stupid.

Essentially, if you don't make any mistakes and don't do anything stupid, you should be able to get to the level cap without any problem or very many deaths (especially now that they've reduced the exp needed to get to 60).

From my understanding with raids, it's more about getting everyone to know exactly where they need to be during pulls and being able to move quickly into position when needed.

Ares
posted 01-17-2008 10:58:45 PM
I don't know. I'm finding it pretty easy, in the quests and what not, but hard when it comes to aggressives. I'll attack one, then another comes out of no where and I die. And that's AFTER I've already scouted to see if there's anymore around.

I wish it was like some other games where the aggressive come up on the mini map as red dots.. But that would make it too easy, I guess. I just hate dying. It's starting to really piss me off. lol

Mightion Defensor
posted 01-17-2008 11:07:38 PM
quote:
From the Book of Armaments, Ares did read;
I don't know. I'm finding it pretty easy, in the quests and what not, but hard when it comes to aggressives. I'll attack one, then another comes out of no where and I die. And that's AFTER I've already scouted to see if there's anymore around.

I wish it was like some other games where the aggressive come up on the mini map as red dots.. But that would make it too easy, I guess. I just hate dying. It's starting to really piss me off. lol


Sounds like murlocs. You'll learn to hate murlocs if you haven't already.

Mr. Parcelan
posted 01-17-2008 11:58:40 PM
Mind you, WoW will seem extremely easy if you're coming from EQ, a game which actively punished players at every turn.
Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-18-2008 12:03:29 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Mind you, WoW will seem extremely easy if you're coming from EQ, a game which actively punished players at every turn.

True enough. No penalty for death? The game actually tells you where your CORPSE is? Hot diggity damn.

Oh, and tradeskills are useful!

Mightion Defensor
posted 01-18-2008 12:05:16 AM
quote:
Mr. Parcelan wrote:
Mind you, WoW will seem extremely easy if you're coming from EQ, a game which actively punished players at every turn.

True that. Two words from EQ you'll never hear in WoW are "Camp Check".

I can't believe we ever put up with sitting at the same spots killing the same mobs over and over for hours trying to level. Well, yes I can, since there was no option B.

Gadani
U
posted 01-18-2008 12:07:32 AM
"Camp check" is dead in MMOs.
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-18-2008 12:11:51 AM
quote:
Nobody really understood why Mortious wrote:
I watched a friend playing WoW on his computer. It seemed incredibly easy with absolutely no risk whatsoever.

Confirm/Deny


I don't want any risk outside of dungeons/raids. Well, outside of world PvP. That's much more interesting than oh hey look at that sand giant that's going to stomp me because I'm level 14 and he's 35

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-18-2008 12:25:51 AM
quote:
Kegwen said this about your mom:
I don't want any risk outside of dungeons/raids. Well, outside of world PvP. That's much more interesting than oh hey look at that sand giant that's going to stomp me because I'm level 14 and he's 35

fuck you, sons of arugal and Fel Reavers.

Maradon!
posted 01-18-2008 12:26:59 AM
Pretty much any quest that involves going into a cave where things will respawn behind you
Blindy.
Suicide (Also: Gay.)
posted 01-18-2008 08:57:04 AM
The challenge in WoW is more about killing stuff as fast as possible without over extending yourself. If you play at a moderate pace, you'll have very low risk. If you, say, pull 2 level 72 demons with your shadow priest and then have 2 more adds pop in, then you'll be able to kill all of them if you know what you're doing and in less time then killing them each individually, but if you don't know what you're doing then you're fucked.

It follows the mantra of all the blizz games. Easy to learn, more difficult than you would think to master. Arena combat is another prime example.

Blackened
posted 01-18-2008 11:17:08 AM
Blindy was close but the only challenge there actually is in this game is to see how efficient you can be. This applies to solo, grouping and raiding.

Anyone who's not braindead (read: 5-10% of the WoW playerbase) will find this game a cakewalk with the only risks coming from cutting corners, attempting to be more efficient. I know that makes up 90% of my PvE deaths.

Not that it's necessarily a bad thing for the game to be so casual friendly. But that's the future of successful mmorpgs regardless.

Blackened fucked around with this message on 01-18-2008 at 11:18 AM.


Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Taeldian
Pancake
posted 01-18-2008 02:28:49 PM
PvP is where the real challenge of the game comes in.

Arenas are a completely different level of skill than anything else in any MMO I've ever played begins to approach.

Anyone who thinks WoW takes no skill needs to play 5v5 in the 2400s and they'll change their tune real quick.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 01-19-2008 03:02:53 AM
quote:
Blackened had this to say about Captain Planet:

Anyone who's not braindead (read: 5-10% of the WoW playerbase) will find this game a cakewalk with the only risks coming from cutting corners, attempting to be more efficient. I know that makes up 90% of my PvE deaths.

Pretty much. I only die when I try to do stupid shit with Fal, like kill Elite (5) mobs. I've done quite a few Elite (3)s with ease. Or when I try to kill more mobs than I can fear off at once.

You pretty much have to be stupid to die if you aren't taking huge risks.

Maradon!
posted 01-19-2008 03:54:22 AM
quote:
Peanut butter ass Shaq Falaanla Marr booooze lime pole over bench lick:
You pretty much have to be stupid to die if you aren't taking huge risks.

You have to be stupid to play wow without taking huge risks!

Mr. Gainsborough
posted 01-19-2008 11:05:25 AM
i just kill stuff and make fun of general

once in a while i die because i'm not paying attention

someone make a toon on malfurion and play with us

Greenlit
posted 01-19-2008 11:58:33 AM
quote:
Maradon! stumbled drunkenly to the keyboard and typed:
You have to be stupid to play wow without taking huge risks!

My favorite game to play as a Prot Paladin is "Can I kill all 30 of the mobs for this quest in one continuous AE pull?"

The answer is often no, but frequently ends up around 15 at a time.

Greenlit fucked around with this message on 01-19-2008 at 11:58 AM.

Tier
posted 01-19-2008 12:33:52 PM
quote:
Falaanla Marr had this to say about Cuba:
You pretty much have to be stupid to die if you aren't taking huge risks.

Of course, "huge risks" varies a lot from one class to another.

Dr. Gee
Say it Loud, Say it Plowed!
posted 01-19-2008 03:29:25 PM
quote:
From the book of Greenlit, chapter 3, verse 16:
My favorite game to play as a Prot Paladin is "Can I kill all 30 of the mobs for this quest in one continuous AE pull?"

The answer is often no, but frequently ends up around 15 at a time.


I love that game.

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-19-2008 08:36:14 PM
okay, gimmie opnions.

level 26 BELF rogue.

solo or duo 99% of time, mostly solo.

best build to PvE.

plz kk thx.

Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-19-2008 08:38:02 PM
http://www.wowwiki.com/Rogue_builds#Leveling_to_60

edit: auto url is still broken laffo

Kegwen fucked around with this message on 01-19-2008 at 08:38 PM.

Falaanla Marr
I AM HOT CHIX
posted 01-19-2008 11:54:00 PM
quote:
Asha'man wrote this stupid crap:
Of course, "huge risks" varies a lot from one class to another.

Yeah, that is very true. But even the weakest class can still solo unless they're stupid.

Ares
posted 01-20-2008 09:54:50 AM
Anyone else get a big fatal error last night? It froze me up so badly that I had to hard boot. I thought it might have been my shit video card, but then a "send error report to Blizz" came up.
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 01-20-2008 11:13:47 AM
There was a big crash last night around midnight.
nem-x
posted 01-20-2008 04:35:23 PM
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 01-20-2008 05:06:22 PM
i remember grinding for that

fucking retarded drop rate

Mightion Defensor
posted 01-20-2008 05:12:13 PM
Crusader was a walk in the park compared to Enchant Bracer - Spellpower.
Skaw
posted 01-20-2008 05:18:01 PM
nemx has bread
Bricktop
Old and Gay
posted 01-20-2008 06:53:53 PM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Mr. Gainsborough said:
i remember grinding for that

fucking retarded drop rate


Nem was only there for like twenty minutes.

A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent.
Mr. Gainsborough
posted 01-20-2008 07:07:35 PM
quote:
Cool Hand Luke stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Nem was only there for like twenty minutes.

what a homo

Delphi Aegis
Delphi. That's right. The oracle. Ask me anything. Anything about your underwear.
posted 01-20-2008 09:12:23 PM
I sat at that camp, tower and all, all through Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, Naxxramas, Ahn'Quiraj, and finally called it quits when Mongoose dropped our first time in Karazhan.

I later got it from a guildie, for the low low price of one favor, though by that time it had totally lost it's usefulness for anything other than level 19 PvP twinks. :/

I had +4 to all stats to chest drop in Zul'Aman as well.. When three years ago it dropped on Kazzak and some FUCKING RETARD PRIEST "won" it, even though he didn't have 300 enchanting.

*sigh*

Also, I saw someone named Vorago on my server. Lawl.

nem-x
posted 01-20-2008 09:16:46 PM
Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-20-2008 11:01:39 PM
WTF is this and how do i change it?

i like this UI, except this one thing.

the huge freaking target box blocking everything and giving me tons of info.

nem-x
posted 01-20-2008 11:02:17 PM
I love it, but it's Cowtip
Kegwen
Sonyfag
posted 01-20-2008 11:02:57 PM
go into cowtip's options and delete or consolidate some lines of information

also you can set where the tooltip goes

Trent
Smurfberry Moneyshot
posted 01-20-2008 11:26:08 PM
moving it's position and negating some info was good stuff.

all is well in the land of cowtip now.

thanks.

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