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So quoth Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael:
Well he does tend to focus on pedophile-related incidents.
Get quoted by me if you posted a huge essay that you took pride in about how some girls deserve to be molested for having bubbly personalities.
I know it's probably fun to try and mock an entire faith based on the fact that you did, in fact, defend a person's "right" to send images of themselves masturbating to minors and then blame it on the person it happened to, but seriously, just fess up and get it over with.
You and Lyinar are some of the more disgusting people out there, willing to overlook gross and vile acts so long as the person that happened to is your friend. I don't think I've ever met someone who could knowingly do that.
So yeah, good job, brah, my Catholic mind must not be able to comprehend the logic behind that.
But let's not make light of the fact that you think a girl that is friendly deserves to have a video of some dude wanking it sent to her. Blame the victim and all that.
it didn't even involve you, get over it
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
quote:
Mr. Gainsborough had this to say about the Spice Girls:
wasn't that like 5 years agoit didn't even involve you, get over it
Hahahaha, fuck, well let's just let everyone live and let live eh i bet it feels grooooooovy man
No. This doesn't involve you now and when someone does something so abhorrently wrong as blame a friend of mine for sexual harrassment, I have no problem holding it over their heads until doomsday. Go find something else to be a unique individual over.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Mr. Parcelan said:
Hahahaha, fuck, well let's just let everyone live and let live eh i bet it feels grooooooovy manNo. This doesn't involve you now and when someone does something so abhorrently wrong as blame a friend of mine for sexual harrassment, I have no problem holding it over their heads until doomsday. Go find something else to be a unique individual over.
you are a sexual predator
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Mr. Gainsborough probably says this to all the girls:
you are a sexual predator
no dateline rep can catch me
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
2. What's the one place you absolutely must visit before you die?
I don't really have any must see places but Ireland would be nice, as would Japan.
3. Let's say that you have a sibling, and this sibling is in his late teens. This sibling tells you one day that he or she is gay and is going to come out to your parents. Your own feelings aside, how would your parents react to your sibling coming out?
I'm not absolutely certain on this on. I think my mom would take it poorly and not know what to say right off the bat; a long lecture would probably follow at some point later after she had some time to digest. My step-dad would probably become extremely uncomfortable and leave the room; I don't think he'd have a whole lot to say on the matter.
4. Same scenario as above. How would you, personally, react to your sibling coming out to you?
I'd tell her to give it some years and some dating to see what she really wants. My sister's a freshman in high school, needs some time to grow up before any such decision could really be firm and clear.
5. When was the last time you were sick? Cold, flu, HIV, whatever.]
I think that'd be last year when I had bronchitis.
6. What band/singer do you despise above all others?
The Beatles. Their voices grate on my nerves.
7. In keeping with the gay theme, what's the gayest act you've ever committed, either intentionally, unintentionally, drunk, or sober?
Besides that I'm dating a guy? Can't think of anything really.
8. Have you ever been to a strip club or similar place?
Nope.
9. Do you plan on having kids? If you have them already, do you plan on having more?
Fuck no.
10. Can you function without a car? I mean this: if gas were suddenly prohibitively expensive and you could no longer afford to drive anymore, would you be able to continue living/commuting/shopping where you are right now with no major inconvenience?
At the moment I couldn't. Work commutes and such demand reliable personal transportation. Might change depending on what kind of job I change to in the next few months.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java the thoughts aquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about dark elf butts:
Sensitive-Ass Stuff
Awwwww did I hit a nerve? SOMEONE INNOCENT BEING BLAMED? no...really?
Give me a break. DivaEm was soliciting people to be camwhores. ECFaces is based on the idea of people hamming it up for the camera. Even her soliciting people to do "sexy" things on the web isn't THAT unusual. She was being sexually coquettish like every other teenager on the internet. Only difference is, the vast majority of kids on the internet aren't out to trap people. They just want to see naked members of the opposite sex.
And you act like you're America's Most Wanted, pointing people out. Give me a break. People know Kekvit was a freak. I knew he was a freak. Should've been banned a lot sooner than he was, in retrospect. He was even more of a freak than *I* thought he was (as time revealed). If he was such a dangerous freak, you have evidence, and obviously IP's can be tracked (because they can be banned) from the boards, why didn't any of you fine, upstanding citizens ever notify the authorities? You're as responsible for anyone he molests in the future as I am...if your allegations are right.
As for the "should be molested for having a bubbly personality" argument, well that's a very convenient shifting of words to obscure the argument actually made. If she's underage on the internet, then her parents are legally and fiscally responsible for anything she does on the internet. If she runs up a bill on some website, her parents are responsible for it. If she meets a guy who she then meets in person for illicit sex, the parents are fiscally responsible for her and her child until she is legally an adult. Parents who try to throw kids out of the house these days for getting knocked up can be sued by the kid, amongst other things. Parents SHOULD be monitoring an underage, immature child on the web.
But the argument wasn't over DivaEm's age, as I recall. It was fundamentally over maturity level vs age. On one hand, she was too young to be sent inappropriate material over the web (that's why Kek was labeled a pedophile). On the other hand, everyone around here wanted to act like she was an adult. I remember being on the losing end of an argument involving half the people in the EC IRC channel once because DivaEm came online and was saying how UNFAIR it was her parents wouldn't let her go on an unsupervised date with a guy four years older than her without any form of supervision or restriction. And it got better! The reason she was on restriction in the FIRST place was because she'd snuck out to be with this guy before!
Sooooo...which is it? Is she a child and should be treated like a child? If that's the case, then some notable members of the EC community (including Synjari, who I regret getting so eagerly entangled in an argument with) were wrong, etc etc. Or was she mature beyond her years? In which case I was wrong in the argument over her parents' right to ground her (and enforce the grounding), but in which case having Kekvit sending her a video of whacking off is really no worse than getting porn advertisements in your email. Which is it?
I was of the opinion by that point that if DivaEm was going to do whatever the hell she wanted anyway, then she should be expected to face the consequences of her actions. Someone had to be responsible, and previous arguments over DivaEm suggested that she was either the most special fucking case in the universe, like the returned messiah who we should all write passes for and protect with our lives and souls and I just wasn't seeing it, or she was someone who could (allegedly) handle her own business. Clearly no one else was ready (parents who should have been tracking her internet usage better), willing (people who could have contacted his ISP or the authorities), or able (folks online who could have intervened or otherwise driven Kekvit away from the community, or DivaEm herself, who could have sought out appropriate help) to intervene or take responsibility. Instead, the behavior deemed appropriate by the EC community was to dance around calling him a pedo and patting yourselves on the back for doing it. The one time someone could've been a knight in shining armor and made a clean sweep of doing the right thing, and we all, myself included, decide to be the village idiots.
I don't condone, approve, or otherwise support the idea of child molestation, pedophila, "young love", NAMBLA, or any other sick fucking notion involving sex and children. My mother was molested as a child in a foster home prior to her being adopted and it's caused her a lot of problems over the course of her life. Now, I don't choose to wear that sort of fact on my sleeve, just like I don't like to mention my racial background, my sexual interests, or my religious affiliation, unlike some people who DO wear their religious affiliation on their sleeve and have the galling audacity to get offended when people call them on it, but I get every bit as annoyed when people accuse me of being something I'm not, Altar Boy.
Was Kekvit a sick fuck? Yes. Is he one today? Probably, I haven't spoken to him in several years. Did he do something inappropriate? Undoubtedly. Was it pedophilia? Not really. If DivaEm encouraged it, it would be at best statutory rape (Kekvit is younger than I am and it was several years ago), assuming they actually had sex. Otherwise it was deliberately showing pornographic material to a minor. (Likewise, if she was so upset, why didn't DivaEm ever tell her parents?) You want to persecute him for being a creepy asshole who stuck his nose where it didn't belong, be my guest. For being a board troll, be my guest. For posting inappropriate pictures or harping on inappropriate topics (I seem to remember he liked to get people grossed out with dead baby jokes and comments about what he thought goat sperm must taste like, which grossed me out), be my guest.
You'll notice that when people speak ill of Kekvit in general, I don't bat an eye. I just think there's too much of an obsession with calling people pedophiles when 1. it's not entirely accurate, 2. it's kinda hard to make it stick objectively, and 3. there's a whole MOUNTAIN of other creepy shit that asshole was up to that you shrug and give a wave-through to.
And what's worse is that you, Parcelan, are wholly unable to come up with any new material. I spam topics with DethEssays, I admit it. You use the same topic of accusation (usually something sexual, usually pedophilia) to go after people. Some folks, that's part of the schtick they cook up, some people probably ARE sexual predators, some people are just plain sad, and some people have loads of other shit wrong with them and you incorrectly label them and then HARP ON THAT INCORRECT LABEL FOR ETERNITY.
Me, I'm not proud of the fact I defended him. Was I right? Yes. Does being right on that technical matter make me a happier person today? No, not really. I feel that I won the point but lost the overall argument. But I certainly don't feel that being made an accessory-to-alleged-internet-pedophilia is an appropriate accusation coming from an oversensitive, hypocritcal, sexually-fixated, self-appointed-but-ultimately-impotent internet he-man with delusions of grandeur who nonetheless failed to accomplish ANYTHING in the matter, save for giving someone a label. It's not hard to give people labels. I just gave you...what...five? six? different descriptive labels?
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael's account was hax0red to write:
Awwwww did I hit a nerve? SOMEONE INNOCENT BEING BLAMED? no...really?Give me a break. DivaEm was soliciting people to be camwhores. ECFaces is based on the idea of people hamming it up for the camera. Even her soliciting people to do "sexy" things on the web isn't THAT unusual. She was being sexually coquettish like every other teenager on the internet. Only difference is, the vast majority of kids on the internet aren't out to trap people. They just want to see naked members of the opposite sex.
And you act like you're America's Most Wanted, pointing people out. Give me a break. People know Kekvit was a freak. I knew he was a freak. Should've been banned a lot sooner than he was, in retrospect. He was even more of a freak than *I* thought he was (as time revealed). If he was such a dangerous freak, you have evidence, and obviously IP's can be tracked (because they can be banned) from the boards, why didn't any of you fine, upstanding citizens ever notify the authorities? You're as responsible for anyone he molests in the future as I am...if your allegations are right.
As for the "should be molested for having a bubbly personality" argument, well that's a very convenient shifting of words to obscure the argument actually made. If she's underage on the internet, then her parents are legally and fiscally responsible for anything she does on the internet. If she runs up a bill on some website, her parents are responsible for it. If she meets a guy who she then meets in person for illicit sex, the parents are fiscally responsible for her and her child until she is legally an adult. Parents who try to throw kids out of the house these days for getting knocked up can be sued by the kid, amongst other things. Parents SHOULD be monitoring an underage, immature child on the web.
But the argument wasn't over DivaEm's age, as I recall. It was fundamentally over maturity level vs age. On one hand, she was too young to be sent inappropriate material over the web (that's why Kek was labeled a pedophile). On the other hand, everyone around here wanted to act like she was an adult. I remember being on the losing end of an argument involving half the people in the EC IRC channel once because DivaEm came online and was saying how UNFAIR it was her parents wouldn't let her go on an unsupervised date with a guy four years older than her without any form of supervision or restriction. And it got better! The reason she was on restriction in the FIRST place was because she'd snuck out to be with this guy before!
Sooooo...which is it? Is she a child and should be treated like a child? If that's the case, then some notable members of the EC community (including Synjari, who I regret getting so eagerly entangled in an argument with) were wrong, etc etc. Or was she mature beyond her years? In which case I was wrong in the argument over her parents' right to ground her (and enforce the grounding), but in which case having Kekvit sending her a video of whacking off is really no worse than getting porn advertisements in your email. Which is it?
I was of the opinion by that point that if DivaEm was going to do whatever the hell she wanted anyway, then she should be expected to face the consequences of her actions. Someone had to be responsible, and previous arguments over DivaEm suggested that she was either the most special fucking case in the universe, like the returned messiah who we should all write passes for and protect with our lives and souls and I just wasn't seeing it, or she was someone who could (allegedly) handle her own business. Clearly no one else was ready (parents who should have been tracking her internet usage better), willing (people who could have contacted his ISP or the authorities), or able (folks online who could have intervened or otherwise driven Kekvit away from the community, or DivaEm herself, who could have sought out appropriate help) to intervene or take responsibility. Instead, the behavior deemed appropriate by the EC community was to dance around calling him a pedo and patting yourselves on the back for doing it. The one time someone could've been a knight in shining armor and made a clean sweep of doing the right thing, and we all, myself included, decide to be the village idiots.
I don't condone, approve, or otherwise support the idea of child molestation, pedophila, "young love", NAMBLA, or any other sick fucking notion involving sex and children. My mother was molested as a child in a foster home prior to her being adopted and it's caused her a lot of problems over the course of her life. Now, I don't choose to wear that sort of fact on my sleeve, just like I don't like to mention my racial background, my sexual interests, or my religious affiliation, unlike some people who DO wear their religious affiliation on their sleeve and have the galling audacity to get offended when people call them on it, but I get every bit as annoyed when people accuse me of being something I'm not, Altar Boy.
Was Kekvit a sick fuck? Yes. Is he one today? Probably, I haven't spoken to him in several years. Did he do something inappropriate? Undoubtedly. Was it pedophilia? Not really. If DivaEm encouraged it, it would be at best statutory rape (Kekvit is younger than I am and it was several years ago), assuming they actually had sex. Otherwise it was deliberately showing pornographic material to a minor. (Likewise, if she was so upset, why didn't DivaEm ever tell her parents?) You want to persecute him for being a creepy asshole who stuck his nose where it didn't belong, be my guest. For being a board troll, be my guest. For posting inappropriate pictures or harping on inappropriate topics (I seem to remember he liked to get people grossed out with dead baby jokes and comments about what he thought goat sperm must taste like, which grossed me out), be my guest.
You'll notice that when people speak ill of Kekvit in general, I don't bat an eye. I just think there's too much of an obsession with calling people pedophiles when 1. it's not entirely accurate, 2. it's kinda hard to make it stick objectively, and 3. there's a whole MOUNTAIN of other creepy shit that asshole was up to that you shrug and give a wave-through to.
And what's worse is that you, Parcelan, are wholly unable to come up with any new material. I spam topics with DethEssays, I admit it. You use the same topic of accusation (usually something sexual, usually pedophilia) to go after people. Some folks, that's part of the schtick they cook up, some people probably ARE sexual predators, some people are just plain sad, and some people have loads of other shit wrong with them and you incorrectly label them and then HARP ON THAT INCORRECT LABEL FOR ETERNITY.
Me, I'm not proud of the fact I defended him. Was I right? Yes. Does being right on that technical matter make me a happier person today? No, not really. I feel that I won the point but lost the overall argument. But I certainly don't feel that being made an accessory-to-alleged-internet-pedophilia is an appropriate accusation coming from an oversensitive, hypocritcal, sexually-fixated, self-appointed-but-ultimately-impotent internet he-man with delusions of grandeur who nonetheless failed to accomplish ANYTHING in the matter, save for giving someone a label. It's not hard to give people labels. I just gave you...what...five? six? different descriptive labels?
I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
I don't care 'cause I'm not there
And I don't care if I'm here tomorrow
Again and again I've taken too much
Of the things that cost you too much
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...
When I was a very small boy,
Very small boys talked to me
Now that we've grown up together
They're afraid of what they see
That's the price that we all pay
Our valued destiny comes to nothing
I can't tell you where we're going
I guess there was just no way of knowing
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...
I feel so extraordinary
Something's got a hold on me
I get this feeling I'm in motion
A sudden sense of liberty
The chances are we've gone too far
You took my time and you took my money
Now I fear you've left me standing
In a world that's so demanding
I used to think that the day would never come
I'd see delight in the shade of the morning sun
My morning sun is the drug that brings me near
To the childhood I lost, replaced by fear
I used to think that the day would never come
That my life would depend on the morning sun...
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
Have a heart, save the bandwidth.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael postedAwwwww did I hit a nerve? SOMEONE INNOCENT BEING BLAMED? no...really?
Give me a break. DivaEm was soliciting people to be camwhores. ECFaces is based on the idea of people hamming it up for the camera. Even her soliciting people to do "sexy" things on the web isn't THAT unusual. She was being sexually coquettish like every other teenager on the internet. Only difference is, the vast majority of kids on the internet aren't out to trap people. They just want to see naked members of the opposite sex.
And you act like you're America's Most Wanted, pointing people out. Give me a break. People know Kekvit was a freak. I knew he was a freak. Should've been banned a lot sooner than he was, in retrospect. He was even more of a freak than *I* thought he was (as time revealed). If he was such a dangerous freak, you have evidence, and obviously IP's can be tracked (because they can be banned) from the boards, why didn't any of you fine, upstanding citizens ever notify the authorities? You're as responsible for anyone he molests in the future as I am...if your allegations are right.
As for the "should be molested for having a bubbly personality" argument, well that's a very convenient shifting of words to obscure the argument actually made. If she's underage on the internet, then her parents are legally and fiscally responsible for anything she does on the internet. If she runs up a bill on some website, her parents are responsible for it. If she meets a guy who she then meets in person for illicit sex, the parents are fiscally responsible for her and her child until she is legally an adult. Parents who try to throw kids out of the house these days for getting knocked up can be sued by the kid, amongst other things. Parents SHOULD be monitoring an underage, immature child on the web.
But the argument wasn't over DivaEm's age, as I recall. It was fundamentally over maturity level vs age. On one hand, she was too young to be sent inappropriate material over the web (that's why Kek was labeled a pedophile). On the other hand, everyone around here wanted to act like she was an adult. I remember being on the losing end of an argument involving half the people in the EC IRC channel once because DivaEm came online and was saying how UNFAIR it was her parents wouldn't let her go on an unsupervised date with a guy four years older than her without any form of supervision or restriction. And it got better! The reason she was on restriction in the FIRST place was because she'd snuck out to be with this guy before!
Sooooo...which is it? Is she a child and should be treated like a child? If that's the case, then some notable members of the EC community (including Synjari, who I regret getting so eagerly entangled in an argument with) were wrong, etc etc. Or was she mature beyond her years? In which case I was wrong in the argument over her parents' right to ground her (and enforce the grounding), but in which case having Kekvit sending her a video of whacking off is really no worse than getting porn advertisements in your email. Which is it?
I was of the opinion by that point that if DivaEm was going to do whatever the hell she wanted anyway, then she should be expected to face the consequences of her actions. Someone had to be responsible, and previous arguments over DivaEm suggested that she was either the most special fucking case in the universe, like the returned messiah who we should all write passes for and protect with our lives and souls and I just wasn't seeing it, or she was someone who could (allegedly) handle her own business. Clearly no one else was ready (parents who should have been tracking her internet usage better), willing (people who could have contacted his ISP or the authorities), or able (folks online who could have intervened or otherwise driven Kekvit away from the community, or DivaEm herself, who could have sought out appropriate help) to intervene or take responsibility. Instead, the behavior deemed appropriate by the EC community was to dance around calling him a pedo and patting yourselves on the back for doing it. The one time someone could've been a knight in shining armor and made a clean sweep of doing the right thing, and we all, myself included, decide to be the village idiots.
I don't condone, approve, or otherwise support the idea of child molestation, pedophila, "young love", NAMBLA, or any other sick fucking notion involving sex and children. My mother was molested as a child in a foster home prior to her being adopted and it's caused her a lot of problems over the course of her life. Now, I don't choose to wear that sort of fact on my sleeve, just like I don't like to mention my racial background, my sexual interests, or my religious affiliation, unlike some people who DO wear their religious affiliation on their sleeve and have the galling audacity to get offended when people call them on it, but I get every bit as annoyed when people accuse me of being something I'm not, Altar Boy.
Was Kekvit a sick fuck? Yes. Is he one today? Probably, I haven't spoken to him in several years. Did he do something inappropriate? Undoubtedly. Was it pedophilia? Not really. If DivaEm encouraged it, it would be at best statutory rape (Kekvit is younger than I am and it was several years ago), assuming they actually had sex. Otherwise it was deliberately showing pornographic material to a minor. (Likewise, if she was so upset, why didn't DivaEm ever tell her parents?) You want to persecute him for being a creepy asshole who stuck his nose where it didn't belong, be my guest. For being a board troll, be my guest. For posting inappropriate pictures or harping on inappropriate topics (I seem to remember he liked to get people grossed out with dead baby jokes and comments about what he thought goat sperm must taste like, which grossed me out), be my guest.
You'll notice that when people speak ill of Kekvit in general, I don't bat an eye. I just think there's too much of an obsession with calling people pedophiles when 1. it's not entirely accurate, 2. it's kinda hard to make it stick objectively, and 3. there's a whole MOUNTAIN of other creepy shit that asshole was up to that you shrug and give a wave-through to.
And what's worse is that you, Parcelan, are wholly unable to come up with any new material. I spam topics with DethEssays, I admit it. You use the same topic of accusation (usually something sexual, usually pedophilia) to go after people. Some folks, that's part of the schtick they cook up, some people probably ARE sexual predators, some people are just plain sad, and some people have loads of other shit wrong with them and you incorrectly label them and then HARP ON THAT INCORRECT LABEL FOR ETERNITY.
Me, I'm not proud of the fact I defended him. Was I right? Yes. Does being right on that technical matter make me a happier person today? No, not really. I feel that I won the point but lost the overall argument. But I certainly don't feel that being made an accessory-to-alleged-internet-pedophilia is an appropriate accusation coming from an oversensitive, hypocritcal, sexually-fixated, self-appointed-but-ultimately-impotent internet he-man with delusions of grandeur who nonetheless failed to accomplish ANYTHING in the matter, save for giving someone a label. It's not hard to give people labels. I just gave you...what...five? six? different descriptive labels?
Holy shit, that's a lot of text about pretty much nothing.
Give me a break. DivaEm was soliciting people to be camwhores. ECFaces is based on the idea of people hamming it up for the camera. Even her soliciting people to do "sexy" things on the web isn't THAT unusual. She was being sexually coquettish like every other teenager on the internet. Only difference is, the vast majority of kids on the internet aren't out to trap people. They just want to see naked members of the opposite sex.
And you act like you're America's Most Wanted, pointing people out. Give me a break. People know Kekvit was a freak. I knew he was a freak. Should've been banned a lot sooner than he was, in retrospect. He was even more of a freak than *I* thought he was (as time revealed). If he was such a dangerous freak, you have evidence, and obviously IP's can be tracked (because they can be banned) from the boards, why didn't any of you fine, upstanding citizens ever notify the authorities? You're as responsible for anyone he molests in the future as I am...if your allegations are right.
As for the "should be molested for having a bubbly personality" argument, well that's a very convenient shifting of words to obscure the argument actually made. If she's underage on the internet, then her parents are legally and fiscally responsible for anything she does on the internet. If she runs up a bill on some website, her parents are responsible for it. If she meets a guy who she then meets in person for illicit sex, the parents are fiscally responsible for her and her child until she is legally an adult. Parents who try to throw kids out of the house these days for getting knocked up can be sued by the kid, amongst other things. Parents SHOULD be monitoring an underage, immature child on the web.
But the argument wasn't over DivaEm's age, as I recall. It was fundamentally over maturity level vs age. On one hand, she was too young to be sent inappropriate material over the web (that's why Kek was labeled a pedophile). On the other hand, everyone around here wanted to act like she was an adult. I remember being on the losing end of an argument involving half the people in the EC IRC channel once because DivaEm came online and was saying how UNFAIR it was her parents wouldn't let her go on an unsupervised date with a guy four years older than her without any form of supervision or restriction. And it got better! The reason she was on restriction in the FIRST place was because she'd snuck out to be with this guy before!
Sooooo...which is it? Is she a child and should be treated like a child? If that's the case, then some notable members of the EC community (including Synjari, who I regret getting so eagerly entangled in an argument with) were wrong, etc etc. Or was she mature beyond her years? In which case I was wrong in the argument over her parents' right to ground her (and enforce the grounding), but in which case having Kekvit sending her a video of whacking off is really no worse than getting porn advertisements in your email. Which is it?
I was of the opinion by that point that if DivaEm was going to do whatever the hell she wanted anyway, then she should be expected to face the consequences of her actions. Someone had to be responsible, and previous arguments over DivaEm suggested that she was either the most special fucking case in the universe, like the returned messiah who we should all write passes for and protect with our lives and souls and I just wasn't seeing it, or she was someone who could (allegedly) handle her own business. Clearly no one else was ready (parents who should have been tracking her internet usage better), willing (people who could have contacted his ISP or the authorities), or able (folks online who could have intervened or otherwise driven Kekvit away from the community, or DivaEm herself, who could have sought out appropriate help) to intervene or take responsibility. Instead, the behavior deemed appropriate by the EC community was to dance around calling him a pedo and patting yourselves on the back for doing it. The one time someone could've been a knight in shining armor and made a clean sweep of doing the right thing, and we all, myself included, decide to be the village idiots.
I don't condone, approve, or otherwise support the idea of child molestation, pedophila, "young love", NAMBLA, or any other sick fucking notion involving sex and children. My mother was molested as a child in a foster home prior to her being adopted and it's caused her a lot of problems over the course of her life. Now, I don't choose to wear that sort of fact on my sleeve, just like I don't like to mention my racial background, my sexual interests, or my religious affiliation, unlike some people who DO wear their religious affiliation on their sleeve and have the galling audacity to get offended when people call them on it, but I get every bit as annoyed when people accuse me of being something I'm not, Altar Boy.
Was Kekvit a sick fuck? Yes. Is he one today? Probably, I haven't spoken to him in several years. Did he do something inappropriate? Undoubtedly. Was it pedophilia? Not really. If DivaEm encouraged it, it would be at best statutory rape (Kekvit is younger than I am and it was several years ago), assuming they actually had sex. Otherwise it was deliberately showing pornographic material to a minor. (Likewise, if she was so upset, why didn't DivaEm ever tell her parents?) You want to persecute him for being a creepy asshole who stuck his nose where it didn't belong, be my guest. For being a board troll, be my guest. For posting inappropriate pictures or harping on inappropriate topics (I seem to remember he liked to get people grossed out with dead baby jokes and comments about what he thought goat sperm must taste like, which grossed me out), be my guest.
You'll notice that when people speak ill of Kekvit in general, I don't bat an eye. I just think there's too much of an obsession with calling people pedophiles when 1. it's not entirely accurate, 2. it's kinda hard to make it stick objectively, and 3. there's a whole MOUNTAIN of other creepy shit that asshole was up to that you shrug and give a wave-through to.
And what's worse is that you, Parcelan, are wholly unable to come up with any new material. I spam topics with DethEssays, I admit it. You use the same topic of accusation (usually something sexual, usually pedophilia) to go after people. Some folks, that's part of the schtick they cook up, some people probably ARE sexual predators, some people are just plain sad, and some people have loads of other shit wrong with them and you incorrectly label them and then HARP ON THAT INCORRECT LABEL FOR ETERNITY.
Me, I'm not proud of the fact I defended him. Was I right? Yes. Does being right on that technical matter make me a happier person today? No, not really. I feel that I won the point but lost the overall argument. But I certainly don't feel that being made an accessory-to-alleged-internet-pedophilia is an appropriate accusation coming from an oversensitive, hypocritcal, sexually-fixated, self-appointed-but-ultimately-impotent internet he-man with delusions of grandeur who nonetheless failed to accomplish ANYTHING in the matter, save for giving someone a label. It's not hard to give people labels. I just gave you...what...five? six? different descriptive labels?
Awwwww did I hit a nerve? SOMEONE INNOCENT BEING BLAMED? no...really?
Give me a break. DivaEm was soliciting people to be camwhores. ECFaces is based on the idea of people hamming it up for the camera. Even her soliciting people to do "sexy" things on the web isn't THAT unusual. She was being sexually coquettish like every other teenager on the internet. Only difference is, the vast majority of kids on the internet aren't out to trap people. They just want to see naked members of the opposite sex.
And you act like you're America's Most Wanted, pointing people out. Give me a break. People know Kekvit was a freak. I knew he was a freak. Should've been banned a lot sooner than he was, in retrospect. He was even more of a freak than *I* thought he was (as time revealed). If he was such a dangerous freak, you have evidence, and obviously IP's can be tracked (because they can be banned) from the boards, why didn't any of you fine, upstanding citizens ever notify the authorities? You're as responsible for anyone he molests in the future as I am...if your allegations are right.
As for the "should be molested for having a bubbly personality" argument, well that's a very convenient shifting of words to obscure the argument actually made. If she's underage on the internet, then her parents are legally and fiscally responsible for anything she does on the internet. If she runs up a bill on some website, her parents are responsible for it. If she meets a guy who she then meets in person for illicit sex, the parents are fiscally responsible for her and her child until she is legally an adult. Parents who try to throw kids out of the house these days for getting knocked up can be sued by the kid, amongst other things. Parents SHOULD be monitoring an underage, immature child on the web.
But the argument wasn't over DivaEm's age, as I recall. It was fundamentally over maturity level vs age. On one hand, she was too young to be sent inappropriate material over the web (that's why Kek was labeled a pedophile). On the other hand, everyone around here wanted to act like she was an adult. I remember being on the losing end of an argument involving half the people in the EC IRC channel once because DivaEm came online and was saying how UNFAIR it was her parents wouldn't let her go on an unsupervised date with a guy four years older than her without any form of supervision or restriction. And it got better! The reason she was on restriction in the FIRST place was because she'd snuck out to be with this guy before!
Sooooo...which is it? Is she a child and should be treated like a child? If that's the case, then some notable members of the EC community (including Synjari, who I regret getting so eagerly entangled in an argument with) were wrong, etc etc. Or was she mature beyond her years? In which case I was wrong in the argument over her parents' right to ground her (and enforce the grounding), but in which case having Kekvit sending her a video of whacking off is really no worse than getting porn advertisements in your email. Which is it?
I was of the opinion by that point that if DivaEm was going to do whatever the hell she wanted anyway, then she should be expected to face the consequences of her actions. Someone had to be responsible, and previous arguments over DivaEm suggested that she was either the most special fucking case in the universe, like the returned messiah who we should all write passes for and protect with our lives and souls and I just wasn't seeing it, or she was someone who could (allegedly) handle her own business. Clearly no one else was ready (parents who should have been tracking her internet usage better), willing (people who could have contacted his ISP or the authorities), or able (folks online who could have intervened or otherwise driven Kekvit away from the community, or DivaEm herself, who could have sought out appropriate help) to intervene or take responsibility. Instead, the behavior deemed appropriate by the EC community was to dance around calling him a pedo and patting yourselves on the back for doing it. The one time someone could've been a knight in shining armor and made a clean sweep of doing the right thing, and we all, myself included, decide to be the village idiots.
I don't condone, approve, or otherwise support the idea of child molestation, pedophila, "young love", NAMBLA, or any other sick fucking notion involving sex and children. My mother was molested as a child in a foster home prior to her being adopted and it's caused her a lot of problems over the course of her life. Now, I don't choose to wear that sort of fact on my sleeve, just like I don't like to mention my racial background, my sexual interests, or my religious affiliation, unlike some people who DO wear their religious affiliation on their sleeve and have the galling audacity to get offended when people call them on it, but I get every bit as annoyed when people accuse me of being something I'm not, Altar Boy.
Was Kekvit a sick fuck? Yes. Is he one today? Probably, I haven't spoken to him in several years. Did he do something inappropriate? Undoubtedly. Was it pedophilia? Not really. If DivaEm encouraged it, it would be at best statutory rape (Kekvit is younger than I am and it was several years ago), assuming they actually had sex. Otherwise it was deliberately showing pornographic material to a minor. (Likewise, if she was so upset, why didn't DivaEm ever tell her parents?) You want to persecute him for being a creepy asshole who stuck his nose where it didn't belong, be my guest. For being a board troll, be my guest. For posting inappropriate pictures or harping on inappropriate topics (I seem to remember he liked to get people grossed out with dead baby jokes and comments about what he thought goat sperm must taste like, which grossed me out), be my guest.
You'll notice that when people speak ill of Kekvit in general, I don't bat an eye. I just think there's too much of an obsession with calling people pedophiles when 1. it's not entirely accurate, 2. it's kinda hard to make it stick objectively, and 3. there's a whole MOUNTAIN of other creepy shit that asshole was up to that you shrug and give a wave-through to.
And what's worse is that you, Parcelan, are wholly unable to come up with any new material. I spam topics with DethEssays, I admit it. You use the same topic of accusation (usually something sexual, usually pedophilia) to go after people. Some folks, that's part of the schtick they cook up, some people probably ARE sexual predators, some people are just plain sad, and some people have loads of other shit wrong with them and you incorrectly label them and then HARP ON THAT INCORRECT LABEL FOR ETERNITY.
Me, I'm not proud of the fact I defended him. Was I right? Yes. Does being right on that technical matter make me a happier person today? No, not really. I feel that I won the point but lost the overall argument. But I certainly don't feel that being made an accessory-to-alleged-internet-pedophilia is an appropriate accusation coming from an oversensitive, hypocritcal, sexually-fixated, self-appointed-but-ultimately-impotent internet he-man with delusions of grandeur who nonetheless failed to accomplish ANYTHING in the matter, save for giving someone a label. It's not hard to give people labels. I just gave you...what...five? six? different descriptive labels?
Awwwww did I hit a nerve? SOMEONE INNOCENT BEING BLAMED? no...really?
Give me a break. DivaEm was soliciting people to be camwhores. ECFaces is based on the idea of people hamming it up for the camera. Even her soliciting people to do "sexy" things on the web isn't THAT unusual. She was being sexually coquettish like every other teenager on the internet. Only difference is, the vast majority of kids on the internet aren't out to trap people. They just want to see naked members of the opposite sex.
And you act like you're America's Most Wanted, pointing people out. Give me a break. People know Kekvit was a freak. I knew he was a freak. Should've been banned a lot sooner than he was, in retrospect. He was even more of a freak than *I* thought he was (as time revealed). If he was such a dangerous freak, you have evidence, and obviously IP's can be tracked (because they can be banned) from the boards, why didn't any of you fine, upstanding citizens ever notify the authorities? You're as responsible for anyone he molests in the future as I am...if your allegations are right.
As for the "should be molested for having a bubbly personality" argument, well that's a very convenient shifting of words to obscure the argument actually made. If she's underage on the internet, then her parents are legally and fiscally responsible for anything she does on the internet. If she runs up a bill on some website, her parents are responsible for it. If she meets a guy who she then meets in person for illicit sex, the parents are fiscally responsible for her and her child until she is legally an adult. Parents who try to throw kids out of the house these days for getting knocked up can be sued by the kid, amongst other things. Parents SHOULD be monitoring an underage, immature child on the web.
But the argument wasn't over DivaEm's age, as I recall. It was fundamentally over maturity level vs age. On one hand, she was too young to be sent inappropriate material over the web (that's why Kek was labeled a pedophile). On the other hand, everyone around here wanted to act like she was an adult. I remember being on the losing end of an argument involving half the people in the EC IRC channel once because DivaEm came online and was saying how UNFAIR it was her parents wouldn't let her go on an unsupervised date with a guy four years older than her without any form of supervision or restriction. And it got better! The reason she was on restriction in the FIRST place was because she'd snuck out to be with this guy before!
Sooooo...which is it? Is she a child and should be treated like a child? If that's the case, then some notable members of the EC community (including Synjari, who I regret getting so eagerly entangled in an argument with) were wrong, etc etc. Or was she mature beyond her years? In which case I was wrong in the argument over her parents' right to ground her (and enforce the grounding), but in which case having Kekvit sending her a video of whacking off is really no worse than getting porn advertisements in your email. Which is it?
I was of the opinion by that point that if DivaEm was going to do whatever the hell she wanted anyway, then she should be expected to face the consequences of her actions. Someone had to be responsible, and previous arguments over DivaEm suggested that she was either the most special fucking case in the universe, like the returned messiah who we should all write passes for and protect with our lives and souls and I just wasn't seeing it, or she was someone who could (allegedly) handle her own business. Clearly no one else was ready (parents who should have been tracking her internet usage better), willing (people who could have contacted his ISP or the authorities), or able (folks online who could have intervened or otherwise driven Kekvit away from the community, or DivaEm herself, who could have sought out appropriate help) to intervene or take responsibility. Instead, the behavior deemed appropriate by the EC community was to dance around calling him a pedo and patting yourselves on the back for doing it. The one time someone could've been a knight in shining armor and made a clean sweep of doing the right thing, and we all, myself included, decide to be the village idiots.
I don't condone, approve, or otherwise support the idea of child molestation, pedophila, "young love", NAMBLA, or any other sick fucking notion involving sex and children. My mother was molested as a child in a foster home prior to her being adopted and it's caused her a lot of problems over the course of her life. Now, I don't choose to wear that sort of fact on my sleeve, just like I don't like to mention my racial background, my sexual interests, or my religious affiliation, unlike some people who DO wear their religious affiliation on their sleeve and have the galling audacity to get offended when people call them on it, but I get every bit as annoyed when people accuse me of being something I'm not, Altar Boy.
Was Kekvit a sick fuck? Yes. Is he one today? Probably, I haven't spoken to him in several years. Did he do something inappropriate? Undoubtedly. Was it pedophilia? Not really. If DivaEm encouraged it, it would be at best statutory rape (Kekvit is younger than I am and it was several years ago), assuming they actually had sex. Otherwise it was deliberately showing pornographic material to a minor. (Likewise, if she was so upset, why didn't DivaEm ever tell her parents?) You want to persecute him for being a creepy asshole who stuck his nose where it didn't belong, be my guest. For being a board troll, be my guest. For posting inappropriate pictures or harping on inappropriate topics (I seem to remember he liked to get people grossed out with dead baby jokes and comments about what he thought goat sperm must taste like, which grossed me out), be my guest.
You'll notice that when people speak ill of Kekvit in general, I don't bat an eye. I just think there's too much of an obsession with calling people pedophiles when 1. it's not entirely accurate, 2. it's kinda hard to make it stick objectively, and 3. there's a whole MOUNTAIN of other creepy shit that asshole was up to that you shrug and give a wave-through to.
And what's worse is that you, Parcelan, are wholly unable to come up with any new material. I spam topics with DethEssays, I admit it. You use the same topic of accusation (usually something sexual, usually pedophilia) to go after people. Some folks, that's part of the schtick they cook up, some people probably ARE sexual predators, some people are just plain sad, and some people have loads of other shit wrong with them and you incorrectly label them and then HARP ON THAT INCORRECT LABEL FOR ETERNITY.
Me, I'm not proud of the fact I defended him. Was I right? Yes. Does being right on that technical matter make me a happier person today? No, not really. I feel that I won the point but lost the overall argument. But I certainly don't feel that being made an accessory-to-alleged-internet-pedophilia is an appropriate accusation coming from an oversensitive, hypocritcal, sexually-fixated, self-appointed-but-ultimately-impotent internet he-man with delusions of grandeur who nonetheless failed to accomplish ANYTHING in the matter, save for giving someone a label. It's not hard to give people labels. I just gave you...what...five? six? different descriptive labels?
Awwwww did I hit a nerve? SOMEONE INNOCENT BEING BLAMED? no...really?
Give me a break. DivaEm was soliciting people to be camwhores. ECFaces is based on the idea of people hamming it up for the camera. Even her soliciting people to do "sexy" things on the web isn't THAT unusual. She was being sexually coquettish like every other teenager on the internet. Only difference is, the vast majority of kids on the internet aren't out to trap people. They just want to see naked members of the opposite sex.
And you act like you're America's Most Wanted, pointing people out. Give me a break. People know Kekvit was a freak. I knew he was a freak. Should've been banned a lot sooner than he was, in retrospect. He was even more of a freak than *I* thought he was (as time revealed). If he was such a dangerous freak, you have evidence, and obviously IP's can be tracked (because they can be banned) from the boards, why didn't any of you fine, upstanding citizens ever notify the authorities? You're as responsible for anyone he molests in the future as I am...if your allegations are right.
As for the "should be molested for having a bubbly personality" argument, well that's a very convenient shifting of words to obscure the argument actually made. If she's underage on the internet, then her parents are legally and fiscally responsible for anything she does on the internet. If she runs up a bill on some website, her parents are responsible for it. If she meets a guy who she then meets in person for illicit sex, the parents are fiscally responsible for her and her child until she is legally an adult. Parents who try to throw kids out of the house these days for getting knocked up can be sued by the kid, amongst other things. Parents SHOULD be monitoring an underage, immature child on the web.
But the argument wasn't over DivaEm's age, as I recall. It was fundamentally over maturity level vs age. On one hand, she was too young to be sent inappropriate material over the web (that's why Kek was labeled a pedophile). On the other hand, everyone around here wanted to act like she was an adult. I remember being on the losing end of an argument involving half the people in the EC IRC channel once because DivaEm came online and was saying how UNFAIR it was her parents wouldn't let her go on an unsupervised date with a guy four years older than her without any form of supervision or restriction. And it got better! The reason she was on restriction in the FIRST place was because she'd snuck out to be with this guy before!
Sooooo...which is it? Is she a child and should be treated like a child? If that's the case, then some notable members of the EC community (including Synjari, who I regret getting so eagerly entangled in an argument with) were wrong, etc etc. Or was she mature beyond her years? In which case I was wrong in the argument over her parents' right to ground her (and enforce the grounding), but in which case having Kekvit sending her a video of whacking off is really no worse than getting porn advertisements in your email. Which is it?
I was of the opinion by that point that if DivaEm was going to do whatever the hell she wanted anyway, then she should be expected to face the consequences of her actions. Someone had to be responsible, and previous arguments over DivaEm suggested that she was either the most special fucking case in the universe, like the returned messiah who we should all write passes for and protect with our lives and souls and I just wasn't seeing it, or she was someone who could (allegedly) handle her own business. Clearly no one else was ready (parents who should have been tracking her internet usage better), willing (people who could have contacted his ISP or the authorities), or able (folks online who could have intervened or otherwise driven Kekvit away from the community, or DivaEm herself, who could have sought out appropriate help) to intervene or take responsibility. Instead, the behavior deemed appropriate by the EC community was to dance around calling him a pedo and patting yourselves on the back for doing it. The one time someone could've been a knight in shining armor and made a clean sweep of doing the right thing, and we all, myself included, decide to be the village idiots.
I don't condone, approve, or otherwise support the idea of child molestation, pedophila, "young love", NAMBLA, or any other sick fucking notion involving sex and children. My mother was molested as a child in a foster home prior to her being adopted and it's caused her a lot of problems over the course of her life. Now, I don't choose to wear that sort of fact on my sleeve, just like I don't like to mention my racial background, my sexual interests, or my religious affiliation, unlike some people who DO wear their religious affiliation on their sleeve and have the galling audacity to get offended when people call them on it, but I get every bit as annoyed when people accuse me of being something I'm not, Altar Boy.
Was Kekvit a sick fuck? Yes. Is he one today? Probably, I haven't spoken to him in several years. Did he do something inappropriate? Undoubtedly. Was it pedophilia? Not really. If DivaEm encouraged it, it would be at best statutory rape (Kekvit is younger than I am and it was several years ago), assuming they actually had sex. Otherwise it was deliberately showing pornographic material to a minor. (Likewise, if she was so upset, why didn't DivaEm ever tell her parents?) You want to persecute him for being a creepy asshole who stuck his nose where it didn't belong, be my guest. For being a board troll, be my guest. For posting inappropriate pictures or harping on inappropriate topics (I seem to remember he liked to get people grossed out with dead baby jokes and comments about what he thought goat sperm must taste like, which grossed me out), be my guest.
You'll notice that when people speak ill of Kekvit in general, I don't bat an eye. I just think there's too much of an obsession with calling people pedophiles when 1. it's not entirely accurate, 2. it's kinda hard to make it stick objectively, and 3. there's a whole MOUNTAIN of other creepy shit that asshole was up to that you shrug and give a wave-through to.
And what's worse is that you, Parcelan, are wholly unable to come up with any new material. I spam topics with DethEssays, I admit it. You use the same topic of accusation (usually something sexual, usually pedophilia) to go after people. Some folks, that's part of the schtick they cook up, some people probably ARE sexual predators, some people are just plain sad, and some people have loads of other shit wrong with them and you incorrectly label them and then HARP ON THAT INCORRECT LABEL FOR ETERNITY.
Me, I'm not proud of the fact I defended him. Was I right? Yes. Does being right on that technical matter make me a happier person today? No, not really. I feel that I won the point but lost the overall argument. But I certainly don't feel that being made an accessory-to-alleged-internet-pedophilia is an appropriate accusation coming from an oversensitive, hypocritcal, sexually-fixated, self-appointed-but-ultimately-impotent internet he-man with delusions of grandeur who nonetheless failed to accomplish ANYTHING in the matter, save for giving someone a label. It's not hard to give people labels. I just gave you...what...five? six? different descriptive labels?
Awwwww did I hit a nerve? SOMEONE INNOCENT BEING BLAMED? no...really?
Give me a break. DivaEm was soliciting people to be camwhores. ECFaces is based on the idea of people hamming it up for the camera. Even her soliciting people to do "sexy" things on the web isn't THAT unusual. She was being sexually coquettish like every other teenager on the internet. Only difference is, the vast majority of kids on the internet aren't out to trap people. They just want to see naked members of the opposite sex.
And you act like you're America's Most Wanted, pointing people out. Give me a break. People know Kekvit was a freak. I knew he was a freak. Should've been banned a lot sooner than he was, in retrospect. He was even more of a freak than *I* thought he was (as time revealed). If he was such a dangerous freak, you have evidence, and obviously IP's can be tracked (because they can be banned) from the boards, why didn't any of you fine, upstanding citizens ever notify the authorities? You're as responsible for anyone he molests in the future as I am...if your allegations are right.
As for the "should be molested for having a bubbly personality" argument, well that's a very convenient shifting of words to obscure the argument actually made. If she's underage on the internet, then her parents are legally and fiscally responsible for anything she does on the internet. If she runs up a bill on some website, her parents are responsible for it. If she meets a guy who she then meets in person for illicit sex, the parents are fiscally responsible for her and her child until she is legally an adult. Parents who try to throw kids out of the house these days for getting knocked up can be sued by the kid, amongst other things. Parents SHOULD be monitoring an underage, immature child on the web.
But the argument wasn't over DivaEm's age, as I recall. It was fundamentally over maturity level vs age. On one hand, she was too young to be sent inappropriate material over the web (that's why Kek was labeled a pedophile). On the other hand, everyone around here wanted to act like she was an adult. I remember being on the losing end of an argument involving half the people in the EC IRC channel once because DivaEm came online and was saying how UNFAIR it was her parents wouldn't let her go on an unsupervised date with a guy four years older than her without any form of supervision or restriction. And it got better! The reason she was on restriction in the FIRST place was because she'd snuck out to be with this guy before!
Sooooo...which is it? Is she a child and should be treated like a child? If that's the case, then some notable members of the EC community (including Synjari, who I regret getting so eagerly entangled in an argument with) were wrong, etc etc. Or was she mature beyond her years? In which case I was wrong in the argument over her parents' right to ground her (and enforce the grounding), but in which case having Kekvit sending her a video of whacking off is really no worse than getting porn advertisements in your email. Which is it?
I was of the opinion by that point that if DivaEm was going to do whatever the hell she wanted anyway, then she should be expected to face the consequences of her actions. Someone had to be responsible, and previous arguments over DivaEm suggested that she was either the most special fucking case in the universe, like the returned messiah who we should all write passes for and protect with our lives and souls and I just wasn't seeing it, or she was someone who could (allegedly) handle her own business. Clearly no one else was ready (parents who should have been tracking her internet usage better), willing (people who could have contacted his ISP or the authorities), or able (folks online who could have intervened or otherwise driven Kekvit away from the community, or DivaEm herself, who could have sought out appropriate help) to intervene or take responsibility. Instead, the behavior deemed appropriate by the EC community was to dance around calling him a pedo and patting yourselves on the back for doing it. The one time someone could've been a knight in shining armor and made a clean sweep of doing the right thing, and we all, myself included, decide to be the village idiots.
I don't condone, approve, or otherwise support the idea of child molestation, pedophila, "young love", NAMBLA, or any other sick fucking notion involving sex and children. My mother was molested as a child in a foster home prior to her being adopted and it's caused her a lot of problems over the course of her life. Now, I don't choose to wear that sort of fact on my sleeve, just like I don't like to mention my racial background, my sexual interests, or my religious affiliation, unlike some people who DO wear their religious affiliation on their sleeve and have the galling audacity to get offended when people call them on it, but I get every bit as annoyed when people accuse me of being something I'm not, Altar Boy.
Was Kekvit a sick fuck? Yes. Is he one today? Probably, I haven't spoken to him in several years. Did he do something inappropriate? Undoubtedly. Was it pedophilia? Not really. If DivaEm encouraged it, it would be at best statutory rape (Kekvit is younger than I am and it was several years ago), assuming they actually had sex. Otherwise it was deliberately showing pornographic material to a minor. (Likewise, if she was so upset, why didn't DivaEm ever tell her parents?) You want to persecute him for being a creepy asshole who stuck his nose where it didn't belong, be my guest. For being a board troll, be my guest. For posting inappropriate pictures or harping on inappropriate topics (I seem to remember he liked to get people grossed out with dead baby jokes and comments about what he thought goat sperm must taste like, which grossed me out), be my guest.
You'll notice that when people speak ill of Kekvit in general, I don't bat an eye. I just think there's too much of an obsession with calling people pedophiles when 1. it's not entirely accurate, 2. it's kinda hard to make it stick objectively, and 3. there's a whole MOUNTAIN of other creepy shit that asshole was up to that you shrug and give a wave-through to.
And what's worse is that you, Parcelan, are wholly unable to come up with any new material. I spam topics with DethEssays, I admit it. You use the same topic of accusation (usually something sexual, usually pedophilia) to go after people. Some folks, that's part of the schtick they cook up, some people probably ARE sexual predators, some people are just plain sad, and some people have loads of other shit wrong with them and you incorrectly label them and then HARP ON THAT INCORRECT LABEL FOR ETERNITY.
Me, I'm not proud of the fact I defended him. Was I right? Yes. Does being right on that technical matter make me a happier person today? No, not really. I feel that I won the point but lost the overall argument. But I certainly don't feel that being made an accessory-to-alleged-internet-pedophilia is an appropriate accusation coming from an oversensitive, hypocritcal, sexually-fixated, self-appointed-but-ultimately-impotent internet he-man with delusions of grandeur who nonetheless failed to accomplish ANYTHING in the matter, save for giving someone a label. It's not hard to give people labels. I just gave you...what...five? six? different descriptive labels?
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
You think you're right.
For defending a guy.
Who sent pictures of himself wanking.
To a minor.
I think I win this argument.
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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Stalwart Steve painfully thought these words up:
I defended him... why isn't my alignment going up!?!?!?
You didn't post it in essay form.
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Was it pedophilia? Not really.
Er, yeah, actually it kinda is pedophilia in a very real and legal sense. Exposing yourself to a minor is illegal in every state. I'm reasonably certain it's even a federal offense and will get you on the list of registered sex offenders.
Whether or not they were "asking for it" is irrelevant.
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Maradon! had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Er, yeah, actually it kinda is pedophilia in a very real and legal sense. Exposing yourself to a minor is illegal in every state. I'm reasonably certain it's even a federal offense and will get you on the list of registered sex offenders.Whether or not they were "asking for it" is irrelevant.
But he's right! Can't you PLEBIANS see that?! WOMEN DESERVE WHAT THEY GET.
huhuhu I made a funny
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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And coming in at #1 is Mr. Parcelan with "Reply." I'm Casey Casem.
There is nothing funny about Stalwart Steve.
I dunno, I think he's pretty funny. And I'm a pretty good judge of humor.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
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How.... Karnaj.... uughhhhhh:
I dunno, I think he's pretty funny. And I'm a pretty good judge of humor.
The last case you got to the bottom to was a case of MALLOMARS.
By that, of course, I mean that I ate them. And they were delicious.
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Don't want to sound like a fanboy, but I am with you. I'll buy it for sure, it's just a matter of for how long I will be playing it..."
- Silvast, Battle.net forums
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Everyone wondered WTF when Karnaj wrote:
Man, another one of these threads. Sheesh.1. What's the best vacation you ever took, and what made it the best?
A 1-week cruise to the Bahamas. Basically I got laid constantly and did crazy island things
2. What's the one place you absolutely must visit before you die?
Ireland
3. Let's say that you have a sibling, and this sibling is in his late teens. This sibling tells you one day that he or she is gay and is going to come out to your parents. Your own feelings aside, how would your parents react to your sibling coming out?
Mom wouldn't care too much, dad would go ballistic.
4. Same scenario as above. How would you, personally, react to your sibling coming out to you?
Wouldn't care.
5. When was the last time you were sick? Cold, flu, HIV, whatever.
I currently have a massively infected absess I'm treating. It's pretty gross.
6. What band/singer do you despise above all others?
Black Eyed Pees
7. In keeping with the gay theme, what's the gayest act you've ever committed, either intentionally, unintentionally, drunk, or sober?
I was hitting some hand pads with a friend of mine, and his zipper flew down and his junk popped out while he was swinging.
8. Have you ever been to a strip club or similar place?
No
9. Do you plan on having kids? If you have them already, do you plan on having more?
No
10. Can you function without a car? I mean this: if gas were suddenly prohibitively expensive and you could no longer afford to drive anymore, would you be able to continue living/commuting/shopping where you are right now with no major inconvenience?
I don't own a car, I already either walk or take the bus. If I couldn't take the bus, I'd be extremely unhappy since my gym, training center, school, and new job are all outside of walking distance; the closest of those being roughly 6.5 miles away.
Florida Disney vacation with my High School Band. It was a week of performing in Disneyland, Epcot, MGM etc. with 315 other bandos.
2. What's the one place you absolutely must visit before you die?
Nowhere, I'd like to visit Japan, but I'm not that crazy for it.
3. Let's say that you have a sibling, and this sibling is in his late teens. This sibling tells you one day that he or she is gay and is going to come out to your parents. Your own feelings aside, how would your parents react to your sibling coming out?
I'd probably chuckle, make light-hearted jokes and be cool with it.
4. Same scenario as above. How would you, personally, react to your sibling coming out to you?
Chuckle, make jokes, and turn him down when he/she started pushing for more.
5. When was the last time you were sick? Cold, flu, HIV, whatever.
I don't remember.
6. What band/singer do you despise above all others?
None
7. In keeping with the gay theme, what's the gayest act you've ever committed, either intentionally, unintentionally, drunk, or sober?
In a high school tradition, a group of Senior guys borrowed uniforms from the pom-pom squad to cross-dress and dance for the homecoming game.
8. Have you ever been to a strip club or similar place?
Yep, Zair and I went to see a strip show in Vegas last time we went.
9. Do you plan on having kids? If you have them already, do you plan on having more?
Someday, yeah.
10. Can you function without a car? I mean this: if gas were suddenly prohibitively expensive and you could no longer afford to drive anymore, would you be able to continue living/commuting/shopping where you are right now with no major inconvenience?
My work's about 15 minutes away by car, I could get away with biking it if I added another 45 minutes to travel time each day.
