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Zaeron
Pancake
posted 10-13-2006 10:16:36 PM
So, what I've been hearing at this point is that basically, all your BWL/MC gear is pretty much useless? Some of the stats coming out of this thing seem weird. Like, absurdly better.
Willias
Pancake
posted 10-13-2006 10:23:47 PM
Useless? No.

You'll be extremely well equipped until level 67 or so.

Then you'll start finding upgrades through blue gear.

Maradon!
posted 10-13-2006 10:58:14 PM
MC epix = Level 70 greens.

BWL epics = moderate to weak level 70 blues.

Naxx epics = really really nice level 70 blues.

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 10-13-2006 11:40:35 PM
You'll find better greens than Tier 1 in the first zone of Outland, from a pure stat perspective. All your current gear = pretty much worthless except for EXTREMELY good pieces.
Willias
Pancake
posted 10-14-2006 12:51:55 AM
quote:
Maradon! had this to say about Punky Brewster:
MC epix = Level 70 greens.

BWL epics = moderate to weak level 70 blues.

Naxx epics = really really nice level 70 blues.


Actually, starting at 67, depending on how good your Tier 2 stuff is, you may start finding green drops that will replace BWL level gear.

By the time you get 70, you probably won't be running around in much of your Naxx gear.

Greenlit
posted 10-14-2006 12:58:31 AM
Glad I'm not bothering with anything but PVP rank right now, then.
Willias
Pancake
posted 10-14-2006 01:05:42 AM
Too late to edit my post, but it's actually closer to what Batty said.

For example, there's apparently a green level 62 warlock set that drops in Hellfire that gives somewhere around +204 STA and +213 spell damage (though no INT), along with 23 additional spell damage for having 2 pieces equipped, and 14 spell crit rating for having 4 pieces equipped. (14 crit rating equals 1% crit at level 60, 20 crit rating equals 1% crit at 70).

Willias fucked around with this message on 10-14-2006 at 01:05 AM.

Zaeron
Pancake
posted 10-14-2006 01:10:26 AM
quote:
Greenlit had this to say about pies:
Glad I'm not bothering with anything but PVP rank right now, then.

Since PVP rank, honor, and even rep with WSG/AV/AB won't carry over, I don't see how that makes you glad. In fact, if I were in the middle of the honor grind, I'd be even more pissed to realize that the rank fourteen shit I was trying desperately to get to was going to be outclassed by the green weapons that drop off trash mobs.

Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 10-14-2006 01:11:33 AM
Let's do a quick check on what kind of "trash" greens drop off random mobs now!

Leather head piece with 22 agi 33 sta and 45 attack power, level 61 to equip. Hm...seems better than most epics to me!

Quest rewards for 60-61 quests, all of them are greens except for the chest mentioned:

Neck, 15 agility, 28 attack power
Neck, 13 str, 18 stam, +12 hit rating
Chest, leather, +36 str, +14 agility, +19 stam, +10 hit rating, +10 dodge rating
Pants, leather, +33 stam, +26 crit rating, +44 attack power
Trinket, +26 crit rating, use: +200 attack power for 10 seconds, 2 minute cooldown

Yup, those epics we all got sure seem awesome now!

Blackened
posted 10-14-2006 01:12:24 AM
quote:
Zaeron.
Since PVP rank, honor, and even rep with WSG/AV/AB won't carry over, I don't see how that makes you glad. In fact, if I were in the middle of the honor grind, I'd be even more pissed to realize that the rank fourteen shit I was trying desperately to get to was going to be outclassed by the green weapons that drop off trash mobs.
Do you have a source stating that they're not going to carry over current honor/rank into the new PvP system?

Although my distaste for you as a human being is brobdingnagian,
what I'm about to do isn't personal.
Zaeron
Pancake
posted 10-14-2006 01:19:56 AM
"If they are reputation-based rewards, there is a good chance you could acquire them before the expansion.

If they are Honor-based rewards or needing a specific rank to acquire, that will not be as easy.

To answer the last question, there isn't really any kind of compensation being offered for points that are being removed. There simply isn't an equitable way to quantify the value of old Honor points to New honor points. EVeryone is starting fresh and the chips must fall where they may.

Yes, we realize this is catching some people in an awkward position, but that is practically always the case with any change made to a game like this. Retro-active compensation would be debated from here to eternity if we were trying to compare the values of two distinct systems."

Quoted from the blue post in this thread: Bliz. Forums!

At least, that's what I'm reading.

Edit: From the same thread: "I don't really know what more I can say about it. The reputation rewards are being rolled over into the new Honor system. So, if you are just short of exalted at the switch, you will have to 'start all over' so to speak.

Again, reputation points do not translate into new Honor points. Your reputation ranking will have almost no bearing at that point."

Both are blue posts.

Zaeron fucked around with this message on 10-14-2006 at 01:21 AM.

Willias
Pancake
posted 10-14-2006 01:21:07 AM
Batty, I thought that the trinket you mentioned was a blue item.
Batty
Doesn't Like You. Specifically you.
posted 10-14-2006 01:23:49 AM
quote:
Willias had this to say about pies:
Batty, I thought that the trinket you mentioned was a blue item.

Might be, but still, level 60-61 quest reward, lawlz.

Aaron (the good one)
posted 10-14-2006 07:13:18 AM
Check out Leatherworking

Engineers still get the shaft though.

Looks like I'm dumping it for Jewelcrafting!

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Willias
Pancake
posted 10-14-2006 10:54:02 AM
Tegadil
Queen of the Smoofs
posted 10-14-2006 12:01:59 PM
I hope they give engineering a fair bit of cool stuff in the expansion to make up for the utter lack of anything interesting for like half a year.

Personally I've always wanted an 8 piece engineering armor suit with an 8 piece bonus that prepends 'Mecha-' to your name.

Edit: Just read that engineers will be able to make portable mail boxes that can be dropped and will last 5 minutes. This makes me happy

Tegadil fucked around with this message on 10-14-2006 at 12:52 PM.

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