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diadem
eet bugz
posted 08-25-2006 09:36:41 PM
what happened with the Orion?
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Tarquinn
Personally responsible for the decline of the American Dollar
posted 08-26-2006 06:10:57 AM
quote:
A sleep deprived diadem stammered:
what happened with the Orion?

It was blown up several episodes ago.

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diadem
eet bugz
posted 08-26-2006 10:07:02 AM
quote:
Tarquinn's fortune cookie read:
It was blown up several episodes ago.

damn, i was hoping it would own the ori ships

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Vorago
A completely different kind of Buckethead
posted 08-26-2006 10:13:49 AM
quote:
diadem had this to say about Cuba:
damn, i was hoping it would own the ori ships

Sadly no, the Ori ships flat out walk through everything in their way like they aren't even there, heh

I like the weapon design for the Ori ships. "Why have lots of smaller weapons when we can just have one gun, but make it the biggest gun ever?"

diadem
eet bugz
posted 08-26-2006 10:50:33 AM
quote:
How.... Vorago.... uughhhhhh:
Sadly no, the Ori ships flat out walk through everything in their way like they aren't even there, heh

I like the weapon design for the Ori ships. "Why have lots of smaller weapons when we can just have one gun, but make it the biggest gun ever?"


it actually bothered me a little that the ori ships were just upgraded versions of conventional weapons. i understand that doing something like having long distance scanners of the galaxy and the ability to destroy anything with the press of the button is overpowered (though a little more realistic seeing the extreme diffrences in tech/power/resources/etc), but that's pretty much a reason why the ori should have never existed as villians in the first place.

edit: Then again, I suppose with such an advantage in miltiary might, the only reason they'd need ships is to inspire awe and spread the word of their religion, which is what they are doing.

that said, after the 200th, i'm beginning to enjoy watching the show again.

diadem fucked around with this message on 08-26-2006 at 10:54 AM.

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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-26-2006 10:54:44 AM
quote:
Your words are as empty as your soul! Mankind ill needs a savior such as diadem!
it actually bothered me a little that the ori ships were just upgraded versions of conventional weapons. i understand that doing something like having long distance scanners of the galaxy and the ability to destroy anything with the press of the button is overpowered (though a little more realistic seeing the extreme diffrences in tech/power/resources/etc), but that's pretty much a reason why the ori should have never existed as villians in the first place.

edit: Then again, I suppose with such an advantage in miltiary might, the only reason they'd need ships is to inspire awe and spread the word of their religion, which is what they are doing. transport vessels instead of warships.

that said, after the 200th, i'm beginning to enjoy watching the show again.


This makes no sense. Hahaha.
I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
diadem
eet bugz
posted 08-26-2006 11:22:09 AM
sorry.

basicly, the ori always bothered me as an enemy, simply becuase how far advanced they should be in the show.

the basis for this is how our own technology advanced.

I mean, look at people from the stonage.... or hell, even roman times. The romans were pretty damn impressive with technologicly, you have to admit. Ceaser's bridge and all that.

But what if we (americans with modern tech) wanted to wipe them out (the romans with their technology) and had no moral quams about how to do it? We could use satalite imagry to find them and eradicate them without setting foot in the area using long ranged weapons. And that's through a few thousand years of technological evolution. We even have flying machines and horseless carriges.

Regardless of the situation, the main point of this is that there is technology out today that people couldn't even fathom thousands of years ago. At the very least, our technology is based off of radicly diffrent concepts.

This is what I meant by upgraded modern weapons. You have a ship with shields that shoots stuff. This ship uses modern ideas (modern for the show) and takes them to extreme levels. The thing is, that's my problem with it. Fundimental concepts change as technologies become more advanced. The Ori have the knowldege of the universe, and can do basicly anything they want. But all they end up with is a more powerful ship with more powerful shields and more powerful guns.

So that's my problem with them. There are thousands of ways to explain away why they are doing what they are doing, but in the back of my mind, this idea will always be there. With all the buildup of ascension in the previous plotline, it is very difficult to suspend my disbelief when watching the ori plotline.

And for Scifi, it's suspending your disbelief is very important.

diadem fucked around with this message on 08-26-2006 at 11:25 AM.

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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-26-2006 11:25:03 AM
Since you basically said "You can explain it but I'm gonna plug my ears and go 'LALALALA' and not listen," then I guess I won't bother.

I'll just say this: Your logic is flawed.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-26-2006 11:32:25 AM
Fuck, I couldn't resist even for five minutes.

There are plenty of reasons why the Ori tech is the way it is. It's quite obvious from your previous posts that you haven't even been paying attention to the show, so no wonder you feel like something is awry. The Orion was destroyed in the Season Premiere. Way to keep up.

The Ori have the knowledge of the universe. That is true. However, the Ori cannot set foot into our galaxy. The ships aren't ships for transporting the Ori, they're ships for transporting the followers of Origin. By the way, those that follow origin are not technilogically advanced. The Ori keep them ignorant on purpose, because it makes it easier for them to feed upon their worship.

The armies sent by the Ori must have a way of subjugating and death-dealing on this plane of existence, and maybe, just maybe, there is a maximum to what a normal human can achieve without ascension. A crazy notion, I know, but it might just be possible that a normal human would have to be in a space ship in order to travel through space. And the followers of Origin that the Ori have sent are by no means anywhere near ascension, so they can only use the tech that the Ori have given the knowledge of to the Priors. If you'll noice, Adria has what you seem to be looking for. But I guess we can't really expect you to notice considering you hardly even watch the show.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Aaron (the good one)
posted 08-26-2006 12:54:43 PM
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`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 08-28-2006 02:43:09 PM
I think Diadem's point was that they don't need to set foot in this galaxy. They haven't gone converting followers in the Pegasus galaxy, so why bother doing it here? They could theoretically just create something from nothingness inside their own galaxy, then aim it at ours, pull the trigger, and make us all disappear in a puff of logic.

The answer is that the Ori want to duke it out with the Ascended, but they aren't as powerful yet. Their power depends on the number of followers, and our galaxy seems to have a much larger humanoid population than theirs. Plus, if the Ori asserted their power directly, the Ascended might block it.

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Gydyon
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posted 08-28-2006 09:47:23 PM
1. The Orion was destroyed on a different show. It's never left Pegasus.

2. The Ori aren't from Pegasus.

3. It sucks that SG-1 is getting cancelled, as this season has been much improved over last year.

4. The Atlantis Asurans are based on Ancient tech, which indicates that the android Reese may have been as well, explaining the similarities.

5. I don't exist.

Gydyon fucked around with this message on 08-28-2006 at 09:47 PM.

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`Doc
Cold in an Alley
posted 08-29-2006 07:45:05 AM
quote:
2. The Ori aren't from Pegasus.[/QB]
They aren't from our galaxy either. And supposedly only our galaxy was hidden from them.
Base eight is just like base ten, really... if you're missing two fingers. - Tom Lehrer
There are people in this world who do not love their fellow human beings, and I hate people like that! - Tom Lehrer
I want to be a race car passenger; just a guy who bugs the driver. "Say man, can I turn on the radio? You should slow down. Why do we gotta keep going in circles? Can I put my feet out the window? Man, you really like Tide..." - Mitch Hedberg
Please keep your arms, legs, heads, tails, tentacles, pseudopods, wings, and/or other limb-like structures inside the ride at all times.
Please submit all questions, inquests, and/or inquiries, in triplicate, to the Department of Redundancy Department, Division for the Management of Division Management Divisions.

diadem
eet bugz
posted 08-29-2006 06:52:45 PM
quote:
`Doc obviously shouldn't have said:
They aren't from our galaxy either. And supposedly only our galaxy was hidden from them.

they never said that ours was the only one hidden. they just said it was.

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