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Tristan
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Nae's Stooge
posted 08-07-2006 10:48:15 PM
If megatron was simply drifting through space, what makes you think he would not be picked up on sensors? The deathstar is a (xbox huge lol) battleship, not a sleepy base. It would make no sense to not ID everything around it at all times. any oulandish object, like say a giant robot, is gonna be investagated closer/blown up.
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Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 08-08-2006 02:55:17 AM
quote:
Tristan rode by in a mouse drawn chariot while shouting:
It would make no sense to not ID everything around it at all times. any oulandish object, like say a giant robot, is gonna be investagated closer/blown up.

That's the funny thing about Transformers. They transform. Some of them, like Megatron, transform into very small objects.

Laserbeak = Audio tape
Megatron = handgun (human sized)

I can easily see them being missed and getting to the surface of the Death Star. After all, the armor plate should deal with objects of that size easily.

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Tristan
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Nae's Stooge
posted 08-08-2006 02:58:42 AM
While armor plate can no doubt withstand a handgun bouncing off it, remember that exploseves (like anti-matter) can also be made to look like harmless things. They are not going to let anything through without telling exactly what it is.
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Kennatsu
hu�mor 1. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
posted 08-08-2006 03:48:33 AM
How about that giant Amoeba the Enterprise encountered? The one that sucks out energy from both machines and living things?
Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 08-08-2006 09:15:35 AM
quote:
The propaganda machine of Kennatsu's junta released this statement:
How about that giant Amoeba the Enterprise encountered? The one that sucks out energy from both machines and living things?

How did the Enterprise beat it, originally?

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-08-2006 11:06:40 AM
quote:
Tristan was naked while typing this:
While armor plate can no doubt withstand a handgun bouncing off it, remember that exploseves (like anti-matter) can also be made to look like harmless things. They are not going to let anything through without telling exactly what it is.

I think you're overestimating the security on the Death Star.

Likewise, Primus doesn't have actual stats, but Primus is generally recognized as being at LEAST equal to Unicron, and likely more powerful.

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Almond
Intellectual Socialist
posted 08-08-2006 01:54:02 PM
quote:
Karnaj had this to say about Duck Tales:
How did the Enterprise beat it, originally?

Antimatter depth charges or simular.

Mightion Defensor
posted 08-08-2006 02:00:53 PM
quote:
And the Replyobots combined to form Karnaj, who roared:
How did the Enterprise beat it, originally?

They fed it a sammich of "beat up USS Constellation's warp core exploding in it's mouth". With the Constellation attached, still. I'd hate to have been Commodore Decker making that call to the insurance company.

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Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 08-08-2006 02:11:14 PM
quote:
Almond put down Tada! magazine long enough to type:
Antimatter depth charges or simular.

Well, the amoeba could only grow so fast, so even if it was siphoning off energy rapidly, a barrage of missles or a superlaser should would be more than enough to blow it apart.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

Kennatsu
hu�mor 1. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
posted 08-08-2006 05:26:01 PM
quote:
Verily, Karnaj doth proclaim:
How did the Enterprise beat it, originally?

A probe was rigged with an antimatter charge. The Enterprise then went inside the amoeba and launched it at point blank range at one of the thing's chromosomal bodies (to prevent the cytoplasm from carrying the charge away from its target). They barely made it out of the creature when the charge exploded...

The Immunity Syndrome

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Anakha
my standards skyrocket when im on my keyboard heh
posted 08-08-2006 07:57:29 PM
quote:
Palador ChibiDragon had this to say about Tron:
That's the funny thing about Transformers. They transform. Some of them, like Megatron, transform into very small objects.

Laserbeak = Audio tape
Megatron = handgun (human sized)

I can easily see them being missed and getting to the surface of the Death Star. After all, the armor plate should deal with objects of that size easily.


Ahah! But you do not factor in the shields on the deathstar, which would incinerate Megatron the minute he hit them. He would not slip through the shields just because he is tiny.

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Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 08-08-2006 08:29:28 PM
quote:
Anakha said:
Ahah! But you do not factor in the shields on the deathstar, which would incinerate Megatron the minute he hit them. He would not slip through the shields just because he is tiny.

True. The shields might get him.

But he could still smuggle himself in. Have himself attached to the outer hull of a ship on its way to the Death Star, maybe. Or just have himself shipped to the DS in a package.

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-08-2006 09:04:33 PM
exactly...I don't think anyone was saying that you'd sneak a small-mode transformer in through the shield itself as much as sneaking it past as something innocuous.
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Kennatsu
hu�mor 1. That which is intended to induce laughter or amusement: a writer skilled at crafting humor.
posted 08-08-2006 09:53:39 PM
Megatron would have to reformat himself so he could transform into a T-21 Laser Rifle so he can be carried in. (a Walther P-38 would be too easy to spot, right?)
Almond
Intellectual Socialist
posted 08-08-2006 09:56:54 PM
Please he'd end up running the DS he's just who the empire is looking for.
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-09-2006 07:15:58 AM
And likely immune to the Jedi Mind Trick.
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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-09-2006 04:20:47 PM
quote:
From the book of Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael, chapter 3, verse 16:
And likely immune to the Jedi Mind Trick.

And likely not immune to the entire "disable Droid" line of Force powers.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 08-09-2006 04:48:01 PM
How big is megatron? Would he even fit inside the halls of the deathstar?
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-10-2006 07:19:49 AM
He would once he started blowing chunks out of stuff. Besides, I never got the impression that the Death Star was as solid as a real moon.
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Anakha
my standards skyrocket when im on my keyboard heh
posted 08-10-2006 11:33:04 AM
And once he did, a metric fuckton of Stormtroopers and Death Star guards would pew pew laser him, and if that did not work, Darth Vader or The Emperor would show up to lightsabre him.
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Malbi
posted 08-10-2006 08:11:08 PM
quote:
Anakha impressed everyone with:
And once he did, a metric fuckton of Stormtroopers and Death Star guards would pew pew laser him, and if that did not work, Darth Vader or The Emperor would show up to lightsabre him.

assuming their abysmal accuraccy lets them hit him before he steps on them.

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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-10-2006 08:38:10 PM
Yeah keep in mind Megatron is the one Transformer other than Optimus who actually CAN hit a target with a ranged weapon. Now, granted, someone with a lightsaber can apparently deflect the cannon blast from an AT-AT. That could be troublesome.
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Palador ChibiDragon
Dismembered
posted 08-10-2006 09:12:03 PM
quote:
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael's account was hax0red to write:
Now, granted, someone with a lightsaber can apparently deflect the cannon blast from an AT-AT. That could be troublesome.

I would remind you that, in the movie, Megatron pulled out a lightsaber-type weapon of his own. There's a good chance he can deal with a jedi. He might not be as fast, but he's alot stronger, and has great reach.

He also doesn't need air to breathe. Blow enough holes in the walls, or make enough smoke, and he gains another advantage.

Back on the subject of world killers taking on the Death Star, how about a few rust monsters? They can't do much to a normal world, but the Death Star or Unicron? Heh heh heh.

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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 08-11-2006 02:29:16 AM
When do we see an AT-AT blast deflected by a lightsaber, what book?
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-11-2006 07:13:19 AM
Start of one of the books where Luke became Palpatine's bitch for a while. Dark Empire? Something like that. Anyway it was in there. Luke deflects a blast from an AT-AT back at it, essentially mortally wounding the walker, then uses the "size matters not" to tip it over. Seems a little.....far-fetched.....to me, but if the EU stuff is okay for this argument then I have to play fair.

And yeah, Megs' biggest advantage is NOT that he has a big gun. It's that he has a big gun and doesn't have any of those meaty flesh-thing requirements regarding air.

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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-11-2006 05:15:34 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael:
Start of one of the books where Luke became Palpatine's bitch for a while. Dark Empire? Something like that. Anyway it was in there. Luke deflects a blast from an AT-AT back at it, essentially mortally wounding the walker, then uses the "size matters not" to tip it over.

I can see that happening with a Force-wielder who is strongly adept at controlling the Force precisely. The Cannon from an AT-AT is still just a focused blast of energy. The Lightsaber intercepts the highest point of concentration, while the wielder uses the Force to prevent any "overflow" from reaching him.

Tipping an AT-AT over is entirely possible using the Force.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 08-11-2006 06:09:59 PM
Keep in ming that storm trooper is sealed vs space (for a little while), space troopers carry proton torpedo launchers, and that that stormtrooper blasters were seen blasting fist sized holes from reinforced landing pit walls.
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-11-2006 06:51:43 PM
quote:
How.... Tristan.... uughhhhhh:
Keep in ming that storm trooper is sealed vs space (for a little while), space troopers carry proton torpedo launchers, and that that stormtrooper blasters were seen blasting fist sized holes from reinforced landing pit walls.

Stormtrooper blasters left big scorchmarks. Not big holes, as I recall. Also keep in mind that storm trooper weapons aren't necessarily reactionless weapons.

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Mightion Defensor
posted 08-11-2006 07:12:48 PM
If all else fails, all they need to incapacitate Megatron is a kid with a spray paint can that can reach his totally insecure chest access panel.
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 08-11-2006 08:07:30 PM
Anything is possible using the force.

Like that time they channeled it through that clone guy and moved a star destroyer away from yavin.

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Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 08-12-2006 09:11:30 PM
quote:
Densetsu said:
And likely not immune to the entire "disable Droid" line of Force powers.

Just a FYI from your resident Star Wars supergeek. The Death Star is canon. Jedi Mind Trick is canon. Disable Droid is non-canon.

Tristan
Vidi, vici, veni.
Nae's Stooge
posted 08-12-2006 10:01:05 PM
TK is canon though, and ripings megatrons head off is a valid use of it
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 08-13-2006 04:58:37 PM
Assuming he doesn't just shoot your ass while you're making the Force hand gesture.
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Densetsu
NOT DRYSART
posted 08-14-2006 04:45:23 PM
quote:
Mortious spewed forth this undeniable truth:
Just a FYI from your resident Star Wars supergeek. The Death Star is canon. Jedi Mind Trick is canon. Disable Droid is non-canon.

Because watching Jedi in episode II point a palm at battle driods and watch them fall over dead is non-canon.

I was in the Virgin Islands once. I met a girl, we ate lobster, drank piña coladas. At sunset, we made love like sea otters. That was a pretty good day. Why couldn't I get that day over, and over?
Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 08-14-2006 04:48:04 PM
quote:
Mortious sent this coded message via a team of nanites:
Just a FYI from your resident Star Wars supergeek. The Death Star is canon. Jedi Mind Trick is canon. Disable Droid is non-canon.

The Clone Wars cartoon is "canon" right?
I'm not sure I want to imagine a galaxy where it's not canonical that Mace Windu CRUSHED Grevious' chest with the force.




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Sean
posted 08-14-2006 06:54:11 PM
quote:
Gunslinger Moogle had this to say about Punky Brewster:
The Clone Wars cartoon is "canon" right?
I'm not sure I want to imagine a galaxy where it's not canonical that Mace Windu CRUSHED Grevious' chest with the force.

That was not disable droid. Watch again and you can actually see where imprints are left from his 'fingers'.

grandma TKed him like a bitch.

A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 08-14-2006 07:21:26 PM
quote:
Sean got a good feeling!
That was not disable droid. Watch again and you can actually see where imprints are left from his 'fingers'.

grandma TKed him like a bitch.


Damn straight; I really wouldn't have it any other way.




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Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 08-15-2006 02:51:05 AM
And was sadly left off of the Wizard Top 50 fight scenes of all time.
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Sean
posted 08-15-2006 03:02:58 AM
Wizard is a joke.
A Kansas City Shuffle is when everybody looks right, you go left.

It's not something people hear about.

Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 08-15-2006 03:47:57 AM
Any suggestions for more worthy reading material then? Easy enough, as has been demonstrated quite frequently on here and the internet in general, to demean.

I still love the sig combinations the two of you are using right now. Very nifty looking. Civil war is sweetness.

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