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Caid '5 Fists' Berrit had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Someone needs to put a bullet in you.edit: don't get me wrong, I like Clooney...in Oceans 11/12 he's perfect. As Batman? No dice.
If you don't know Cristian Bale, go rent Equilibrium right fucking now.
Equilibrium had so many issues with it that pretty much forced it to be Off-Rental material. The story was rather cliche and over done, where it has also been done moderately better before, the pacing was horrible. However, it's shining grace was its action scenes which were top-notch in most cases, and it's acting talent (Most notably Christian Bale of course).
It's one of those movies that could have been so awesome under much better direction. Not a BAD movie, just... meh.
However if you just want to note how awesome CB is as an actor, he still shines in this movie and has a myraid of other movies at his disposal. Some good, some bad, some dismal, but to his credit his acting is always great. In the case of some movies, it's really a matter of genre dislike as well. As an Example, Little Women bores the ever loving shit out of me and is so not my kinda movie, but from a credit standpoint the movie was excellent and well done.
Other noteable Christian Bale movies include.
American Psycho (Very well done, not my kinda movie so was dull for me, but I can't deny how well it was done.)
Henry V (Its in the name. Not very noteworthy on its own, but it's an example)
Empire of the Sun (War Drama, old, decent if long. 
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Reign of Fire (Blah, this movie grated for me, but per usual Christian Bale is awesome in it, and so is Matthew McConaughey who is another great yet underatted actor.)
Little Woman (Not really blah, but you gotta like that kinda movie)
Newsies (Musical, but pretty fun. )
A Midsummer Nights Dream (Shakespear, awesome. But you have to like Shakespear.)
Opinions of course, but the man is damn good even if you don't like the movies themselves.
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Faelynn LeAndris had this to say about dark elf butts:
Equilibrium had so many issues with it that pretty much forced it to be Off-Rental material. The story was rather cliche and over done, where it has also been done moderately better before, the pacing was horrible. However, it's shining grace was its action scenes which were top-notch in most cases, and it's acting talent (Most notably Christian Bale of course).
I completely agree. I love it for the action, Christian Bale, and Sean Bean.
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From the book of Sean, chapter 3, verse 16:
Dark Knight Returns
Wasn't this on the ftp or something at one time? Maybe it's just me, but I was trying to find it recently and failed.
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Fazum'Zen Fastfist painfully thought these words up:
Don't forget Swing Kids, ha ha!
Swing Kids was Footloose without the cool. (Note the use of the word cool in relation to Footloose is direct relation to its time period. If you try and go back and watch that movie now... You will feel this deep, dark, sickness in the pit of your soul.)
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Swing Kids was Footloose without the cool. (Note the use of the word cool in relation to Footloose is direct relation to its time period. If you try and go back and watch that movie now... You will feel this deep, dark, sickness in the pit of your soul.)
Right. I mean, who wants to see two guys playing 'Chicken' with slow moving tractors...
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How.... Faelynn LeAndris.... uughhhhhh:
Equilibrium had so many issues with it that pretty much forced it to be Off-Rental material. The story was rather cliche and over done, where it has also been done moderately better before, the pacing was horrible. However, it's shining grace was its action scenes which were top-notch in most cases, and it's acting talent (Most notably Christian Bale of course).
I would watch that movie again for the final fight alone, heh
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From the book of Vorago, chapter 3, verse 16:
I would watch that movie again for the final fight alone, heh
Favorite line from that...
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DuPont: And you, Preston, the supposed savior of the resistance, are now its destroyer, and, along with them, you've given me yourself... calmly... coolly... entirely without incident.
John Preston: [Polygraph machine scribbling rapidly] No.
[Polygraph suddenly registers Preston completely in control]
Technician: Oh... Shit.
John Preston: Not without incident.
Katrinity fucked around with this message on 06-17-2005 at 02:35 PM.
But he is a fucking perfect Bruce Wayne. Morgan Freeman, Michael Caine, and Gary Oldman were all great. I give it..
out of five.
It's not something people hear about.
quote:I felt as a straight-out beginning to Batman, he was near-perfect. The only problem I had with Bale as Batman was his "disgused voice". It was just too raspy and over-done at times. Hopefully, in the next two movies, they'll move him away from being as "intense" as he was in this movie, and more of a quieter, reserved-type badass.
Sean.
Christian Bale should've brought some of that Equilibrium acting over to Batman Begins for scenes as Batman. They felt really hammed up, even given the character he was playing.. also playing a character.
Though I'm still loving the scene where he grabs that fat cop (Flass?) and strings him upside down. Bale had the "Angry Batman" down perfectly in that scene. It was very intense and he oozed emotion. Hell, I even enjoyed the frown/scowl on his face as he was growling at the poor cop.
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Blackened spewed forth this undeniable truth:
I felt as a straight-out beginning to Batman, he was near-perfect. The only problem I had with Bale as Batman was his "disgused voice". It was just too raspy and over-done at times. Hopefully, in the next two movies, they'll move him away from being as "intense" as he was in this movie, and more of a quieter, reserved-type badass.Though I'm still loving the scene where he grabs that fat cop (Flass?) and strings him upside down. Bale had the "Angry Batman" down perfectly in that scene. It was very intense and he oozed emotion. Hell, I even enjoyed the frown/scowl on his face as he was growling at the poor cop.
That's my favorite scene in the movie. Bale was perfect as the "Interrogation Batman". I actually liked the raspy voice that he used as Batman.
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Fazum'Zen Fastfist stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
I always think of Batman's voice as being like the one from the 90's animated series.
Yeah, me too. Especially since I learned that series still came on and I started watching it again.
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Kait had this to say about Robocop:
Maybe I'm just too in love with George Clooney...well sorry, as Batman he was the epitome of perfection!
Considering that Clooney himself admitted he killed the role as Batman.. I'd say its just the Clooney love talking..
Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001
I know, thank you captain obvious.
You're welcome.
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Vorago said this about your mom:
I would watch that movie again for the final fight alone, heh
The fight with that last Cleric left something to be desired. I was expecting a bit of a fight there, not just total face-slicing ass rapage.
The final fight was interesting though.
Either I'm getting old, or most if not all fight sequences were too fast or filmed too closely to the action. Most of the time you had no clue who was hitting who. Bleh.
Edit: But all in all, it is the second best Batman movie so far. Liam Neeson was great, although I expected him to say "Fear leads to the dark side of the force, young padawan", at any time. Tarquinn fucked around with this message on 06-18-2005 at 10:07 AM.
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Seen it yesterday. Wasn't that impressed.Either I'm getting old, or most if not all fight sequences were too fast or filmed too closely to the action. Most of the time you had no clue who was hitting who. Bleh.
Edit: But all in all, it is the second best Batman movie so far. Liam Neeson was great, although I expected him to say "Fear leads to the dark side of the force, young padawan", at any time.
Just like everyone was expecting Mace to break loose with "It's the one that says 'Bad Mother Fucker' on it" and Elrond to start asking for a Mr. Anderson.
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This one time, at Random Insanity Generator camp:
Just like everyone was expecting Mace to break loose with "It's the one that says 'Bad Mother Fucker' on it" and Elrond to start asking for a Mr. Anderson.
Nah, it was not because Liam Neeson played a Jedi at some point. It was because the whole training, together with the semi philsophical lessons about fear reminded me too much of Star Wars. Tarquinn fucked around with this message on 06-18-2005 at 11:13 AM.
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Snoota had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
Jones could have been the best Two Face if the role wasn't written as a raving lunatic. Carrey was the worst choice for the Riddler. Riddler turned out to be one of the smartest criminals in Batman's Rogue Gallery. One of the few to figure out his identity. Which led to one of the cooler scenes between the two in the comics!
Carey did what he was best at at the time. And I only cited the one part that I actually liked him, but it could have been any dork acting like a nut in a green spandex suit and I'd have found it amusing.
I would like to see TwoFace redone in one of the later movies (or prequal movies, I don't care) as the stone hard serious asshole. I still think Jones would do the part justice.
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Tarquinn wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Either I'm getting old, or most if not all fight sequences were too fast or filmed too closely to the action. Most of the time you had no clue who was hitting who. Bleh.
I'm going to have to agree with you on this.
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Either I'm getting old, or most if not all fight sequences were too fast or filmed too closely to the action. Most of the time you had no clue who was hitting who. Bleh.
A lot of recent action movies seem to have this problem...Chronicles of Riddick was a particularly bad offender.
Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
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Entertain me with more of your bullshit, Gunslinger Moogle.
Chronicles of Riddick was a particularly bad offender.
I didn't have a problem with the handycam work in Riddick at all.
It's something that can be done very well, or very poorly; Combined with the almost solid darkness of Batman Begins and it turns out very poor. In better lighting and more appropriate fights, like Riddick, or (fuck yeah) The Shield, it becomes a great tool for adding atmosphere.
It's not something people hear about.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
quote:For the most part, I agree. But I echo what Sean said, if used correctly it can add a hell of a lot. Sadly, most directors seem clueless when it comes to proper implimentation.
Bloodsage.
Yeah, I really wish the "let's bounce the camera around everywhere" trend would go the way of the dodo.
Also note, even in my younger age, I felt the fight scenes were cut too fast with the angles too close in. It got simply ridiculous at one point, (The fight on the train, I couldn't tell who was beating who half the time) but it certainly didn't ruin the movie, or anything close for me.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
1. Marvel can't afford any more shitty movies. Not without looking silly. Batman Begins raised the bar by wholeheartedly catching the core of the Batman series. It may have taken liberties with story, but only to build the overall feel of the comic. I liked "Hulk" and "Daredevil" and on a lazy weekend afternoon I may even rent "Blade 2" or the like, but I can't say they were faithful to the soul of the characters. Moreover, existing franchises like X-Men have to tighten up.
Heaven help them if Fantastic Four doesn't fire on all cylinders.
Conversely, people are going to be pissed if "Superman Lives" doesn't encapsulate the core of the Boy Scout as much as Batman Begins encapsulates the core of the Dark Knight.
2. Bale was everything I hoped for. He pulled off Bruce, he pulled off Batman. The mask needs some work, but not bad.
3. Ugh...batchicks...Katie Holmes was an interesting character, but by the end of the film...meh. I felt nothing. Was like Nicole Kidman's character from the third batfilm all over again.
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I thought Jonathan Crane was pretty awesome and very well suited. Scarecrow was also done well in a way that mainstream audiences could very easily digest and still seemed fairly well tied to the comics. Liam Neeson is awesome, as always. The guy is just a solid actor and makes his characters very likable (even when they're villains).
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Then why did you try to fuck him like a bitch, Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael?
Moreover, existing franchises like X-Men have to tighten up.
Don't count on it. Bryan Singer is gone, Alex Cumming is gone, Halle Berry has the execs in a deathgrip. It's just going to be a trainwreck.
Say goodbye to: Wolverine, Cyclops, Charles fucking Xavier, Monique, Nightcrawler, and any semblance of a worthwhile plot.
It's not something people hear about.
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Azymyth was all like:
Yeah, I noticed how he was doing the silly voice when he was Batman. I think that was part of the whole starting out process, trying to make himself as seperate from his alter ego as possible, including voice.
I guess he was okay as Bruce Wayne. I don't know...I really don't...I don't see these fantastic acting traits that everyone else seems to o.O? I must just be stupid.
The "Batman" voice made me giggle.
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Everyone wondered WTF when Sean wrote:
I didn't have a problem with the handycam work in Riddick at all.It's something that can be done very well, or very poorly; Combined with the almost solid darkness of Batman Begins and it turns out very poor. In better lighting and more appropriate fights, like Riddick, or (fuck yeah) The Shield, it becomes a great tool for adding atmosphere.
Maybe it's just the fact that I haven't seen that movie since it first came out, but I don't recall any particularly jarring camera movements. As far as I can recall, they were all pretty tied in with the scenes--long, panoramic shots of the landscapes and of the ships extending/landing/taking off/whatever; fast, fluid camera sweeps at fight scenes and times of frantic movement. Man, I'm all hyped up for seeing the movie again now, thanks 
And: found this tidbit while I was looking up info on the guy who played Crane: Kait fucked around with this message on 06-19-2005 at 10:24 PM.
"Auditioned for the role of Batman in Batman Begins (2005). The role was eventually given to Christian Bale. But, director Christopher Nolan liked Cillian's audition so much that he gave him a role as Batman's arch-nemesis Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow, who is a developing character in this movie."
o.o Imagine how different the movie would have been if he'd played Batman? Woah.
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The microwave scrambler can reach through concrete and metal pipes to instantly vaporize water. Well humans are mostly water. Why weren't people exploding near that machine?
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Inferno-Spirit probably says this to all the girls:
I saw this on PvP, and I have to say, it's a pretty huge plothole.The microwave scrambler can reach through concrete and metal pipes to instantly vaporize water. Well humans are mostly water. Why weren't people exploding near that machine?
I wondered that too. It was stupid.
But cool factor aside, the big problem with the X-Men movies is that they had a huge cast and almost no dialogue. Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 had these delightful little scenes with dialogue that both do and do not have anything to do with the greater plot (Peter talking to Otto Octavius and his wife in 2, for instance). X-Men seems to have had dialogue insofar as it moved things along.
Batman Begins had an ASSLOAD of dialogue, and where it didn't have dialogue it had actors who could convey thoughts and feelings without thinking. Gives you the noirish "internal dialogue" without having the noirish "internal dialogue" which was nice.
I think it was good to start with the "Begins" story just as it was. You can easily refine the movie out of character as the world and characters get refined IN character. Work on the Batman voice if you like. Work on the mask if you like (made him look like he didn't have a neck in some scenes). By the end of the movie, Bruce seemed to have ditched the "misbehaving rich brat" outside and was, by his own admission, operating through charitable trusts and so forth.
On the whole, however, I think that the scenery was just as good as the original. They really played to the idea that Gotham has different sectors (The Narrows, etc), which is important to Gotham in the comic. I missed some of the artistic touches Burton had in his Gotham, but this Gotham was almost straight out of the comic, so it was okay. The acting was good, and I even liked Katie Holmes when there wasn't the undertones of a relationship there (it was just when they pushed the idea of a relationship that I got wary). Bale was fantastic, and I like the fact they relied on the "Terrorist Batman" effect. Scare the crap out of people, don't show it all on screen, show how disoriented the bad guys are. Was like watching a horror movie where the stalking monster is the good guy, which is how it should be.
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