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Bloodsage had this to say about Knight Rider:
That's not entirely true. Some places (the federal and many state governments being some of them) require you to pay union dues whether or not you become a "member."
I chose my words carefully.
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This insanity brought to you by Densetsu:
I chose my words carefully.
It's a meaningless distinction.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage had this to say about dark elf butts:
Even if one doesn't back Maradon's radical views...
What! My views are very moderate.
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From the book of Maradon!, chapter 3, verse 16:
Unions are in no way a "freemarket supporting entity," unions are a leech on the back of the free market.
They are leeches now, they weren't before the regulations stopped employee abuse.
and...fuck wal-mart, that is all 
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Blindy. wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
They are leeches now, they weren't before the regulations stopped employee abuse.
Like Bloodsage said, though, they were never supporting the free market.
What's you point here anyway?
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Norim Stumpfighter got all f'ed up on Angel Dust and wrote:
and...fuck wal-mart, that is all
fuck a company looking out for its own interests by refusing to pander to unions, am i rite?
Target does it too. I applaud their policies, even though I hate the stores themselves.
It's not something people hear about.
god, i'm goin to bed before i get any more po'd... heh
i'm not sayin the company i work for is a friggin saint, but atleast they arent two faced about their business practices.
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Sam Walton, Founder of Wal-Mart said, "His company would not 'create a fuss' if a city didn't want them"
omg, guess all those court battles over building supercenters in the middle of residential neighborhoods are desired by the residents
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Norim Stumpfighter Model 2000 was programmed to say:
it's more like, fuck a company who:
1) bullies it's employees into working shifts they cant work
2) doctors your time sheets and doesnt give you the overtime pay they owe you
3) pays you poverty level wages
4) bullies it's suppliers by threatening to pull products for favorable prices
5) ruins the entire neighborhood for miles around it
1) Find another job that will
2) Find another job that won't
3) Find another job with a better wage
4) It's all about the Dollar, everyone wants the profit, see #3.
5) well, blame the yuppies.
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Skaw enlisted the help of an infinite number of monkeys to write:1) Find another job that will2) Find another job that won't3) Find another job with a better wage4) It's all about the Dollar, everyone wants the profit, see #3.5) well, blame the yuppies.
1. Form a union.
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Norim Stumpfighter had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
it's more like, fuck a company who:
1) bullies it's employees into working shifts they cant work
News Flash. Many places try to get you to work when you cannot or do not want to. They cannot FORCE you to, but in many places, like Texas for instance, the employer can fire you for pretty much anything. Deal with it, they're not horrible devils.
2) doctors your time sheets and doesnt give you the overtime pay they owe you
It's called keeping track of your hours and knowing a lawyer. This IS an illegal business practice, and is certainly not something that's commonplace. If it was, they would have been dealt with by now.
3) pays you poverty level wages
Wal-Mart is VERY FAR from the lowest paying wage out there. Want poverty level wages? Go get a job at a Kroger grocery store. They don't even pay minimum wage to sackers for 90 days.
4) bullies it's suppliers by threatening to pull products for favorable prices
A company getting products cheaper so they can sell them cheaper, bring in more customers, and ultimately, make more money? OMG.
5) ruins the entire neighborhood for miles around it.
Kay.
Out of everyone I know who has worked at Wal-Mart, they actually RECOMMEND it. They all loved working there. They got competitive pay, great benefits, including profit-sharing. How DARE Wal-Mart give them profit-sharing!
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Maradon! had this to say about John Romero:
What! My views are very moderate.
Except for your views about economics, which are so thoroughly extremist that similar views do not get even a single passage in my economics textbook.
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Sean impressed everyone with:
fuck a company looking out for its own interests by refusing to pander to unions, am i rite?
more like fuck satan-mart am i rite 
Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
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So quoth Pvednes:
Except for your views about economics, which are so thoroughly extremist that similar views do not get even a single passage in my economics textbook.
Your textbook doesn't mention supply-side capitolism?
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This insanity brought to you by Maradon!:
capitolism
I know, you know it, but without a reminder you'll never learn it.
capitalism
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Norim Stumpfighter said:
4) bullies it's suppliers by threatening to pull products for favorable prices
Working for one of those suppliers, I kinda know what you're talking about. However, our company bends over backwards to keep prices low for Wal-Mart. Sure, the margins are crap, but the massive amout of stuff we make for them makes it more than worth while.
You have to remember how Wal Mart works. One central center that supplies all the stores. So, if you're making something for Wal Mart, you're supplying it to ALL the Wal Marts. That's a metric fuckton of business, enough to turn the smallest margin into a large amount of money.
That's why so many businesses work to supply stuff to Wal Mart, despite the fact that it "bullies" them.
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Palador ChibiDragon had this to say about Cuba:
Working for one of those suppliers, I kinda know what you're talking about. However, our company bends over backwards to keep prices low for Wal-Mart. Sure, the margins are crap, but the massive amout of stuff we make for them makes it more than worth while.You have to remember how Wal Mart works. One central center that supplies all the stores. So, if you're making something for Wal Mart, you're supplying it to ALL the Wal Marts. That's a metric fuckton of business, enough to turn the smallest margin into a large amount of money.
That's why so many businesses work to supply stuff to Wal Mart, despite the fact that it "bullies" them.
Which, in the long run, is not always a good thing.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Vernaltemptress said:
Which, in the long run, is not always a good thing.
True. But sometimes it is. We added a second plant to help us keep up with Wal Mart's orders. And while that second plant hasn't been doing as much business as we had hoped, it's still more jobs.
Plus, working for Wal Mart has made us overhaul alot of stuff (especally in the quality and distribution areas). Our other customers are getting a better product, faster, because of this. Also, we're now good enough that we're in good standing to get some other large accounts that rival Wal Mart in size. The second plant will be up to full production, new machines will be added at the main plant, and there's vague talk of a third plant even.
Maybe someday, Wal Mart will turn on us. If they do, it will hurt like hell. But what will be left is a company better able to survive without them. And for the moment, it's still a positive business relationship. Not all positive, but still in the black when all is said and done.
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Vernaltemptress thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Which, in the long run, is not always a good thing.
So what? All they're talking about is the natural order of capitalism on a grander scale. The demands of Wal-Mart are nothing more than the demands of any group of consumers. Any consumer demands lower prices, any company that cannot provide them while maintaining quality should rightly fail. For every company that fails, though, other companies will succeed. Industry will be better, more competent, and more efficient for it. If the quality of products drop, Wal-Mart, like any group of consumers, will drop the product.
Nothing wrong with it at all.
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ACES! Another post by Maradon!:
. If the quality of products drop, Wal-Mart, like any group of consumers, will drop the product.
well the problem is that the suppliers have their discount (whole sale) prices they give to retailers. Wal-Mart insists that they give them a lower price or they will pull their products from the shelves, or move them to a place no one will frequent them, at the least. sactioned extorsion.
problem is you can argue over and over about this stuff but unless you have or do work for one side or the other you really cant know about it.
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Blindy.'s account was hax0red to write:
There is nothing natural about walmart.
Walmart was fine until it started lowering its prices beyond would be considered reasonable competition. They were intentionally taking a loss in revenue to crush other businesses because they had more capital to lose than a smaller mom & pop business.
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Norim Stumpfighter Model 2000 was programmed to say:
well the problem is that the suppliers have their discount (whole sale) prices they give to retailers. Wal-Mart insists that they give them a lower price or they will pull their products from the shelves, or move them to a place no one will frequent them, at the least. sactioned extorsion.problem is you can argue over and over about this stuff but unless you have or do work for one side or the other you really cant know about it.
That's bullshit. "I'm a stock boy, so only I am qualified to discuss the intricacies of supply chain management," is ludicrous.
What you call extortion is, in reality, simply free market capitalism at work. Wal Mart has no obligation to its suppliers either to carry particular products or to pay them huge profits. There is a thing called economy of scale--read about it. Someone buying a "metric fuckton" of product can very reasonably expect to pay much less per unit than others.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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From the book of Maradon!, chapter 3, verse 16:
Your textbook doesn't mention supply-side capitolism?
There are three pages and a glossary entry, out of over a thousand pages, that mention "supply-side policies" in stabilizing aggregate demand, and they don't seem to be anything similar to your views at all. For that matter, the term "laissez-faire" occurs once, halfway down page 944, in a rather negative light.
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Norim Stumpfighter thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
problem is you can argue over and over about this stuff but unless you have or do work for one side or the other you really cant know about it.
News flash, I have and still do, to a point!
All resaling and manufacturing companies negotiate with their suppliers to get discounts off the wholesale price of an item; but this only happens when there is mutual trust between the two companies and an established business relationship.
My company's main supplier, Lincoln, discounts everything to us at 15 - 64% off the wholesale price. In turn, we discount off our wholesales to established customers - Kawasaki in particular comes to mind - at 5 to 15% a piece.
You can either sell one product at a $15 profit, or two at a $12 profit each. Surprise, most people will go for the twelves.
It's not something people hear about.
