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ACES! Another post by Snoota:
This isn't 1783.
sea power is what almost won WW1 and WW 2 for Germany. its what won the War in the Pacific for the US
how you think all those men and equipment got to desert storm? primarly on ships. No Navy, no world power.
Snoota you are smarter than to suggest the revelency of Sea power to world status ended prior to the 1800's
Thank you, drive through.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Callalron said:
Yes, consider the battles that are numbered as major turning points of the Pacific War: Pearl Harbor, the sinking of Force Z, the Battle of the Coral Sea, Midway, the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot, and the Battle of the Philipine Sea. The common thread through all of them? That control of the sea is not possible when the enemy has control of the air.Thank you, drive through.
That's why I love WW2. We couldn't launch bombers from a land-based runway close enough to hit japan at the time, and we couldn't launch from the deck since it was too short. So they stripped down the planes, and trained the pilots to get off a runway that was like, really really shorter then what they were used to..
And we DID IT. It always says to me "J00 wanna fuck with the USA? Okay, bish. BRING IT AWN!" 
We do really crazy shit when we need to.
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Callalron wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
Yes, consider the battles that are numbered as major turning points of the Pacific War: Pearl Harbor, the sinking of Force Z, the Battle of the Coral Sea, Midway, the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot, and the Battle of the Philipine Sea. The common thread through all of them? That control of the sea is not possible when the enemy has control of the air.Thank you, drive through.
this is why we have aircraft carriers and Subs......
are you saying that the air suprencie you cite was possible without the sea power that provided the platforms for them?
name the one part of the nuclear Triad that is still a effective deterent today.
hint it isnt missles or bombers....
Force Z was sunk by land-based aircraft, the Jap carriers being busy elsewhere. Same with the HMS Sheffeld in Falklands, the USS Stark (only damaged) during the Tanker War. With the range of modern aircraft and missiles, carriers aren't quite the neccessity to control a sea zone that they used to be.
Try again.
/edit: Putting in all the words helps greatly. Callalron fucked around with this message on 04-14-2004 at 01:22 AM.
Katrinity fucked around with this message on 04-14-2004 at 01:17 AM.
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Callalron had this to say about Captain Planet:
Last I checked we still have nuclear missiles and bombers and that they are as effective as they've ever been. {they are not an effective detrent becuse they can be destroyed, you cant locate and destroy the subs} One good thing about land-based bombers that you don't get with the other platforms: They're flexible AND you can call them back if you change your mind for some reason.Force Z was sunk by land-based aircraft, the Jap carriers being busy elsewhere. Same with the HMS Sheffeld in Falklands, the USS Stark (only damaged) during the Tanker War. With the range of modern aircraft and missiles, carriers aren't quite the neccessity to control a sea zone that they used to be.
Try again.
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please get it right the Stark was damaged in the Persian Gulf war. I know becuse I happened to have been there remeber?. the funeral for those sailors was on my ship Uss Luce DDG 38
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Katrinity was all like:
Um...I find it funny that you'd claim naval battles constituted much for the German war effort in WW2. Of all the nations in WW2, Germany probably had the weakest navy. I've read and seen several documentaries where it's been stated over and over that Hitler strongly disliked the Navy and so put little effort into building up his fleets. Its was all about Infantry, Armor, and Planes for Germany.
its Germany's sub fleet that came within weeks of starving England into subission. thats still sea power. naval blockades does wonders. except in the case of Cuba.
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The logic train ran off the tracks when Somthor said:
please get it right the Stark was damaged in the Persian Gulf war. I know becuse I happened to have been there remeber?. the funeral for those sailors was on my ship Uss Luce DDG 38
Let's see, Gulf War was in '91 and survey says.....ding.
I believe you said something getting it right?
Feel free to begin profuse apologies and admissions of your error.
Game, set and match to me.
Oh, and interesting how you skipped through time 4 years for the funeral. Callalron fucked around with this message on 04-14-2004 at 01:38 AM.
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Delphi Aegis had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
You know, the air force is the only branch to run the stargate program.So navy sucks. Do "deep space radar telemmetry".
Coolest reply to this thread.
sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me
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Everyone wondered WTF when Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael wrote:
Coolest reply to this thread.
Well, as long as he has a dad with possible cancer to take as a tok'ra host.
OOPS! I said too much.
<.<
>.>
Really, thats all you really need, huh?
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Callalron wrote, obviously thinking too hard:
Let's see, Gulf War was in '91 and survey says.....ding.I believe you said something getting it right?
Feel free to begin profuse apologies and admissions of your error.
Game, set and match to me.
Oh, and interesting how you skipped through time 4 years for the funeral.
91 was gulf war part two...... how ever looking into it it seems that the time period I was involved with has somehow been termed the "tanker war" which isnt what it was called when I was involved.
Persian gulf war (part one) desert storm (pgwII) and Iraqi freedom (pgwIII)
so I do owe you a appology, for jumping on you for your use of "tanker war" but I have to tell you it makes me feel like history is downplaying what we did back then.
So Sorry I engaged mouth before research on this one.
dont forget though you are also partialy incorrect when you refer to Desert storm as the gulf war becuse its really gulf war II.
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There was much rejoicing when Callalron said this:
The proper terminology for that war is "The Iran-Iraq War", since that's who was, ya know, fighting in it. You say "Gulf War" or even "Persian Gulf War" to anyone, man on the street, historian, whoever and they will respond "You mean Desert Storm?" Desert Storm was was Gulf War I. Operation Iraqi Freedom was Gulf War II.
funny several places say pgII but i agree most think desert storm
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Katrinity had this to say about Robocop:
Um...I find it funny that you'd claim naval battles constituted much for the German war effort in WW2. Of all the nations in WW2, Germany probably had the weakest navy. I've read and seen several documentaries where it's been stated over and over that Hitler strongly disliked the Navy and so put little effort into building up his fleets. Its was all about Infantry, Armor, and Planes for Germany.
Not quite true. The Submarines were very well regarded by Hitler and played a major part in his (foiled) plan to shut down trading between the allied nations early on in the war.
We pwned the submarines eventually though (We as in the brits)
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Niklas's account was hax0red to write:
Not quite true. The Submarines were very well regarded by Hitler and played a major part in his (foiled) plan to shut down trading between the allied nations early on in the war.We pwned the submarines eventually though (We as in the brits)
Well, yeah, after WE developed radar. 
And started churning out liberty ships faster then he could sink 'em.
I forget exactly who did develop radar, but it stopped his friggin' Uboats, at least.
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Delphi Aegis thought this was the Ricky Martin Fan Club Forum and wrote:
Well, yeah, after WE developed radar.And started churning out liberty ships faster then he could sink 'em.
I forget exactly who did develop radar, but it stopped his friggin' Uboats, at least.
You're thinking Sonar and both Sonar and Radar was us 
(well, not so sure about s developing Sonar now I think about it)
Besides, we built the ships which sank the suckers. Damnit, can't remember what they're called now.. Niklas fucked around with this message on 04-14-2004 at 02:49 PM.
