Lesage
Still always, Not-Dude.
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Trillee had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Beauty and the Beast (Worsed. One. Ever.) The dude fel off the tower...turret..thing...
It was the only Disney animated movie ever to be nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. Hardly the worst (there is no such word as worsed) one ever.
Maleficent was done in by Phillip's sword. She fell over the cliff from the force and whatnot, but she was dead when he pierced her heart. So that one doesn't really count because plummeting wasn't the cause of death.
I thought Hunchback was okay. Definitely not my favorite, but decent. Snow White is probably the one I like the least, although I rather like the fairy tale itself. Just doesn't do it for me.
And Parce, there are quite a lot of fairy tales out there that Disney hasn't done. Some wouldn't be plausible without major changes of course, like Hansel and Gretel. But some would be rather doable, like East of the Sun, West of the Moon or Tam Lin. Lyinar Ka`Bael fucked around with this message on 04-12-2004 at 09:40 PM.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
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Check out the big brain on Lesage!
Pocohantas was the only Disney film that put me to sleep ever. So boring it put ME-who-sat-through-the-Godfather-when-she-was-eight-and-wasn't-bored, to sleep. Sad...yes. Hunchback was...not their best but it wasn't as bad as Hercules. And I REFUSE to see Treasure Island.Lesage
Treasure Planet, and actually, it was an extremely faithful and entertaining rendition of the old tale. Treasure Island is one of my favorite books of all time, and I really think they captured the spirit of the novel, even if the setting was much much different.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
But despair lashed Parcelan like a whip across his back as the thing entered his room in the Den of high priced quack healing. It appeared frail, or would have if it was a horizontal, with loose, puckered body skin scored with waht looked like metal stiched scars; but it towered over parcelan on its hind legs, its misshapen head stooped below the red sandstone ceiling. Even in Full health Parcelan could never best the hight of this creature.
The being seemed to sense some rudiments of civilized behavor, for it quickly sank into an appallingly alien cross-legged postre, its head bowed close to the transparent quarantine-membrane that cut the room in half. "The guards sent me in" It spoke in a high pitched whining voice. "Elder, I give you greetings."
Parcelan sank into a more bearable posture. He gasped " you are not one of us. How is it that you can speak our tounge?"
"I only appear to, Duder. My ship has listened to LUce voices for months, far above Filth, and it has learned your speach. A device on my ship changes your language to mine, and mine to yours. A second device allowing me to speak and understand it made into my clothing."
Parcelan wheezed, "A ship travels on water. My guards told an insane story of your decending from the sky to a meadow forty miles from here. We thought it an attack from the western gatherings, but you are obviously no Prarie Dog, and your words lack meaning. What did you come in? A ship, OVer water, or a thing from the sky?"
"I come from beyond your sky, O Duderr; and yet I call my thing a ship. Some of our words lack counterparts, but we should understand each other well enough. I offer wishes: for you, long life; for your people full bellies and victory over your enemies."
Parcelan growled. "Vain wishes! this place is the house of death, my death, and my people face more enemies than Ollie faces Senators. What are you? why do you trouble us?"
The creature spread lips and showed its fangs. " I am a trader. Riches from the stars I bring, wonders from the sky I fling."
"Cubling nonsence! cried Parclean, but a great blinding pain grabbed him from behind and threw him to his knees. It snatched the very breath from his body. When at last it released him, Parcelan retched at the stench of his own feces. When he could speak again, Parcelan gasped, "You can sell me nothing, nothing at all. See even now Hela comes for me, and when I am gone, my peoplewill also die. Soon the Evil GYdons of the south and the Snoota's of the west will try us, find us weak, and devour us; it is a old tale with the Praire Dogs. The Luce will be no more unless you bring us Weapons."
The space peddler bobbed its head from side to side. "that is never my way. I have no weapons, O Elder Duder I use none myself, nor have I any to sell. Let others sell death, My pal. I deal in life."
"Life. that you can not sell me," Parcelan said bitterly.
The being was silent a moment. then very quietly, it said, " My name is Somthor."
At first Parcelan thought the hot wash of feeling was the final throes of agony, but he heard the clicking of his own claws, on the stone floor like a tin roof in a rain storm, and realized that he was merely confused and, yes embarassed. Softely the Elder said, " you are a starnger and cannot know our ways. With us giving of names is a most sacred....."
"I have heard your brodcasts, and I know the custom," The noob said " I would be your best pal. My name is Somthor."
After a moments hesitation, Parcelan muttered, " what harm can it do? I am dying, anyway, and no one will belive you if you tell them. MY name is Parcelan. I have not the strength for the bonding dance."
"I could not do the dance. But, Parcelan, I honor your friendship, and I shall bear your name in my mind as a precious token. Now tell me: what can I sell the Dog of Luce Gatherings?"
Weariness came and sat heavily on Parcelans Shoulders. "Nothing. Nothing Nothing."
"Come," said Somthor, with spirit. "after all, only a fool buys the cow before tasteing the milk."
Despite his illness, Parcelan chuckled at the familar Luce proverb, the punch line to an ancient, Vulgar joke. the movement brought on a convulsion.
Somthor Leaped to his feet, banging his head against the ceiling. "mY duder, you are distressted. What is your ailment?"
Resting on his belly, Parcelan Gasped, " my people call it the dark corruption."
"yes," said Somthor. "This, too I know from your brodcastes. I have made my ship find a cure. This corruption is the most dreaded of all Praire dog illnessess, is it not?"
" well it should be. It eats and disvolves from within. It is a fatal curse for all who contract it. You can not sell me a cure for there is none.
Shockingly, the noob on the other side of the membrane tore open its pack it carried and produced a shiney silver metal can. It was frosty looking and moist drops formed on its surface. Somthor danced in a strange way chanting, "Say nothing before you are sure! maybe Ill sell a cure."
Then he ripped away the protective membrane.
"Fool!" chocked Parcelan. "You've killed every dog in the crib, and your self! back!" for the being was trying to now trying to pour the contents of the can into his mouth.
Parcelan struggled back himself, scrambling with all his paws, too short of breath to call for help. The wall stopped him. Somthor leaned over and forced his jaws apart. Somthing Bubbly and smooth poured down his throat. The roome wavered and disvolved; Parcelan saw the black pubis of Hela, the death mother, yawning to swallow him; and in he tumbled, whirling down the cold dark canal, fading from the world in fear and outrage....
ok its all yours Somthor fucked around with this message on 04-12-2004 at 09:43 PM.
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Lesage had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
Pocohantas was the only Disney film that put me to sleep ever. So boring it put ME-who-sat-through-the-Godfather-when-she-was-eight-and-wasn't-bored, to sleep. Sad...yes. Hunchback was...not their best but it wasn't as bad as Hercules. And I REFUSE to see Treasure Island.Lesage
I liked Pochohantas...
Especially cause of Meeko. (loves raccoons)
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Beauty and the Beast was the worst.
The music was annoying, the voices were like they was ment for a cheap saturday morning cartoon. The animation was ok.. but hardly worth any kinda of nomination. It basicaly looked like it was tossed together so they could do "Hey look! We can combine traditional animation with computer animation!"
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A sleep deprived Vorago stammered:
Parcelan needs to stop posting so much damned funny stuff, I can only vote this thread a 5 once
Ditto.
Worst? Hunchback. They did a good job with the vilian, but they also gutted the story and made the rest of it suck.
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Trillee had this to say about John Romero:
*shrugs*Beauty and the Beast was the worst.
The music was annoying, the voices were like they was ment for a cheap saturday morning cartoon. The animation was ok.. but hardly worth any kinda of nomination. It basicaly looked like it was tossed together so they could do "Hey look! We can combine traditional animation with computer animation!"
Man what's the weather like on your planet? Hercules and Hunchback were, in your opinion, better than B&B? Where's your loyalty to pagan mythology now? Or fidelity to classic literature? Yeesh. And it looked and flowed fine. I'd love to hear your in-depth analysis of what was wrong with B&B.
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So quoth Trillee:
*shrugs*Beauty and the Beast was the worst.
The music was annoying, the voices were like they was ment for a cheap saturday morning cartoon. The animation was ok.. but hardly worth any kinda of nomination. It basicaly looked like it was tossed together so they could do "Hey look! We can combine traditional animation with computer animation!"
The music has been used in a very successful Broadway play. And I wouldn't call Angela Landsbury part of a cheap, Saturday morning cartoon. The voices fit the characters well. Cogsworth was gruff and straight-forward. Lumiere was charming. Mrs Potts was motherly, and Chip was very young. Gaston was arrogant and it showed, and Lefou was very whiny and very much a "follower" sort. Maurice was enthusiastic and a bit flighty, the Beast was harsh and self-deprecating. And Belle was practical, caring and intelligent.
And the animation, for the time that it came out, was astounding. Not even The Little Mermaid had done things with animation that Beauty and the Beast did. We look back at something like Snow White now, and we're not really impressed. But at the time it came out, Snow White was groundbreaking. It's the same with Beauty and the Beast. The quality of animation when that came out almost 15 years ago was unheard of.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
The toys in sids room were freaky, but I wasnt disturbed by em when I first saw it.
Beauty and the Beast was okay, but it wasn't "all that" and I don't think it deserved everything it got. 
It DEFINITELY wasn't the worst though. It was very well done, and put together well.
I LIKED Hunchback, but they butchered it because they dumbed it down for kids (WHY WONT DISNEY DO MORE ADULT SPECIFIC MATERIAL 
It would kill the anime fanaticism in a heartbeat) so by 'kiddifying it' and taking out the depth of the story, it was ruined. Still wouldn't call it the worst.
Can't really say Snow White was the worst, because it was one of the first and ahead of its time in technology and the amount it was trying to pull off. I didn't like it though, even as kid. It and Peter Pan never appealed to me for some reason.
Pocohontas has got to be the worst, boring, bad music, wasn't put together very well, and the art style annoyed me. I had beefs with the artistic choices in Hercules too, but it was more 'grown-up' humor in a lot of places and amused me. Pocohontas though was just boring drivel.
It just sucks, Disney could do some REALLY spectacular crap, if they didn't feel like they needed to protect thier image and dumb things down to be more 'safe' for all audiences. Atlantis was a good step in the right direction, but even that they dumbed down in a few ways. It was kinda like seeing them sitting there, "Okay, we are going to TRY to be a bit more grown up! Any questions?" and then you see an animator sitting there, "What does blood look like, and is it going to be scary?"
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Faelynn LeAndris had this to say about Tron:
The Little Mermaid and Sleeping Beauty were my favorites, also my favorite fairy-tales in a lot of ways. Black Cauldron sneaks in there too.Beauty and the Beast was okay, but it wasn't "all that" and I don't think it deserved everything it got.
It DEFINITELY wasn't the worst though. It was very well done, and put together well.
I LIKED Hunchback, but they butchered it because they dumbed it down for kids (WHY WONT DISNEY DO MORE ADULT SPECIFIC MATERIAL
It would kill the anime fanaticism in a heartbeat) so by 'kiddifying it' and taking out the depth of the story, it was ruined. Still wouldn't call it the worst.
Can't really say Snow White was the worst, because it was one of the first and ahead of its time in technology and the amount it was trying to pull off. I didn't like it though, even as kid. It and Peter Pan never appealed to me for some reason.
Pocohontas has got to be the worst, boring, bad music, wasn't put together very well, and the art style annoyed me. I had beefs with the artistic choices in Hercules too, but it was more 'grown-up' humor in a lot of places and amused me. Pocohontas though was just boring drivel.
It just sucks, Disney could do some REALLY spectacular crap, if they didn't feel like they needed to protect thier image and dumb things down to be more 'safe' for all audiences. Atlantis was a good step in the right direction, but even that they dumbed down in a few ways. It was kinda like seeing them sitting there, "Okay, we are going to TRY to be a bit more grown up! Any questions?" and then you see an animator sitting there, "What does blood look like, and is it going to be scary?"
Treasure Planet and Atlantis were awesome. And hell, I loved Hercules
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael said this:
Man what's the weather like on your planet? Hercules and Hunchback were, in your opinion, better than B&B? Where's your loyalty to pagan mythology now? Or fidelity to classic literature? Yeesh. And it looked and flowed fine. I'd love to hear your in-depth analysis of what was wrong with B&B.
Hated Herculese too. But after seeing it 100 or so times while I was at work, I could care less about it. And I never saw the Hunchback, so I'm not going to make a judgment about it. So my "loyalties" to anything, as you say, have *nothing* to do with this.
I'm sorry you felt the need to be insultive about this, Ja'Deth. *shrugs and wanders off*
I liked Lilo and Stitch, Mulan, and Tarzan (music was nice) of the more recent ones.
My all tiem favorite was probably Robin Hood or Sword and the Stone, but the last time I saw them I was still a little kid so they may be colored by childhood memories.
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From the book of Trillee, chapter 3, verse 16:
And I never saw the Hunchback, so I'm not going to make a judgment about it.
Do yourself a favor, avoid it.
They turned the deaf, hunchbacked, ugly-ass, mute guy into a singing, dancing, romantic lead. He just doesn't get the girl (though I think he does get one in HoND2).
The bad guy is the ONLY good part of that movie. The rest of the story got ass-raped. Sorry, but that's the only way to put it.
(I was a kid in the '90s and continue to be today, tomorrow, and later most likely)
Robin Hood and Sword in the Stone.
Saw them again recently too.
*edit: maby not Mulan, she was cool. Y.O.T.C fucked around with this message on 04-13-2004 at 12:54 PM.
