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Topic: Peacenikery
Freschel Spindrift
Caucasian
posted 02-17-2004 02:00:48 AM
Yup I was in a couple of flame wars. Unlike Somthor, I know when to stop.
Who's that crazy kook that's destroying the world. It's Zorc (That's me) It's Zorc and Pals.
Bakura: Did you forget our anniversary, again? (laughter)
Zorc: Yes, I was busy destroying the world (laughter) Slaughtering millions. (Laughter)
Bakura: That's my Zorc.
The blood of the innocents will flow without end. His name is Zorc, and he's destroying the world.
King Parcelan
Chicken of the Sea
posted 02-17-2004 02:04:09 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Freschel Spindrift:
Yup I was in a couple of flame wars. Unlike Somthor, I know when to stop.

Peter Rabbit would be wise to stay out of Farmer McGregor's garden.

OtakuPenguin
Peels like a tangerine, but is juicy like an orange.
posted 02-17-2004 02:13:52 AM
I just read the word "Flame" too many times >_<
..:: This Is The Sound Of Settling ::..
nem-x
posted 02-17-2004 02:17:15 AM
Freschel Spindrift
Caucasian
posted 02-17-2004 02:19:45 AM
quote:
King Parcelan's unholy Backstreet Boys obsession manifested in:
Peter Rabbit would be wise to stay out of Farmer McGregor's garden.

*Snatches a few carrots from Farmer McGregor's carrot bin, runs, er hops away.*

Sorry, couldn't resist that.

Who's that crazy kook that's destroying the world. It's Zorc (That's me) It's Zorc and Pals.
Bakura: Did you forget our anniversary, again? (laughter)
Zorc: Yes, I was busy destroying the world (laughter) Slaughtering millions. (Laughter)
Bakura: That's my Zorc.
The blood of the innocents will flow without end. His name is Zorc, and he's destroying the world.
Mod
Pancake
posted 02-17-2004 03:24:51 AM
In many cases the flames are far, far more annoying than the offending person. Somthor might act dumb, but all the 'Hey guys imagine if Somthor was in this thread he'd be dum and he should die, lolz'-posts in unrelated threads beat his posts flat.

Trying to educate someone by putting him on the defensive is also the dumbest possible way to go about it, someone who is attacked will never ever evaluate his own actions, he will be too busy defending himself against people he sees as agressors.

Yes 'flames', aka inconstructive arguments completely based on insults are a bad and terrible thing because they do nothing to resolve actual issues and are 'won' or 'lost' based not on what was actually discussed but based on the perception of someone getting omgsoownDDD!!!!!1.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-17-2004 03:55:57 AM
Well let's describe the difference between flaming for an argument and flaming because you're a hostile little git. Arguing Bush is an asshat is fine, getting impassioned is fine, but insinuating that Bloodsage is a baby killer or slaughterer of innocent civilians is not (and as I recall that comparison was made by someone who shall remain nameless).

I don't have a problem with a lot of flames, but occasionally people cross a certain propriety line and then it's gone too far. And like it or not, that propriety line is not something you want the mob to determine. Someone in the military might be liberal or conservative, male or female, but calling them a babykiller is never cool, and it's not being a peacenik to say so. There's a number of "untouchable" topics that cause serious damage.

It is, as Parcelan said in a roundabout way, a matter of "Controlled Burns" rather than "Wildfire". The idea is that afterwards, even if you don't like someone, something constructive might have come from it all.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Vernaltemptress
Withered and Alone
posted 02-17-2004 04:49:24 AM
quote:
Everyone wondered WTF when Gunslinger Moogle wrote:
I'm willing to accept that flames can be productive...but in my opinion it's really gotten out of hand lately.

Take Somthor, for instance. For about a week the vast majority of the boards' activity consisted of flaming him. It wasn't even for anything major - he just posted, or someone posted a thread about him, and bamf. Now what I don't see is: if the very sight of his name arouses such uncontrollable rage in some many, why not just ignore him? The 'because then he'll think this kind of behavior is acceptable' argument holds no water at all, because - so what? By ignoring him you have all but erased him from your existance on these boards, which is virtually the same result as you intended to get with your flame - driving him away. Indeed, if you so want it, that's really the only way it's gonna happen.


Somthor continually lets us know that we have no value to him, by his posting habits. In this thread, he states:

quote:
My bad spelling and grammer are my own. Depending how strongly I feel about a topic and how much time I spend on the response is a varible of how many errors I might make. And the time I may spend to try to correct them.

AND

quote:
if you are talking to me, its pointless I dont care what you think about my posting habits. I post what I think and until someone makes me think otherwise I'll post ad nausem about whatever it was to begin with.

Also, on the topic of cutting and pasting and linking, Drysart pointed out:

quote:
Somthor, do you really have to copy and paste the full text of something you're quoting in the post? We've got hyperlinks, why not use them?

And Somthor's response was:

quote:
This was disscussed before, somepeople cant get the link to work, or the link changers or the item may be changed or removed. a copy and paste job is there always.

Unless you insist on the use of hyperlinking I likly will continue to cut and paste. Its what I feel comfortable with.


Shall I go on?

Somthor insists that he is better then the EC community by continually doing what he insists on doing because doing otherwise is outside of his comfort zone/control. Therefore, we are of no value to him, so why should we pay any attention to him? Having Somthor on ignore is not enough as some people insist on quoting or discussing Somthor, as you have, so he isn't "all but erased from your existance on these boards."

Obamanomics: spend, tax, and borrow.
Elvish Crack Piper
Murder is justified so long as people believe in something different than you do
posted 02-17-2004 05:34:35 AM
quote:
Agent Shadow thought about the meaning of life:
stuff

Or maybe you should respect the legal order and go mope about how my sister broke up with you.

VernalTemptress.

Hmm, guess he doesnt understand that its not likely to be changed to terribly much while the thread is still being posted on.

Kinda like if you went back to a really old picture thread(like the one where nae posted softcore pictures of her belly and stuff) and would be lucky to get a single picture that wasnt a red X.

(Insert Funny Phrase Here)
Mod
Pancake
posted 02-17-2004 06:38:14 AM
quote:
Elvish Crack Piper had this to say about (_|_):
Or maybe you should respect the legal order and go mope about how my sister broke up with you.

Oh ffs not that drama again.

Life... is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. Unreturnable, because all you get back is another box of chocolates. You're stuck with this undefinable whipped-mint crap that you mindlessly wolf down when there's nothing else left to eat. Sure, once in a while, there's a peanut butter cup, or an English toffee. But they're gone too fast, the taste is fleeting. So you end up with nothing but broken bits, filled with hardened jelly and teeth-crunching nuts, and if you're desperate enough to eat those, all you've got left is a... is an empty box... filled with useless, brown paper wrappers.
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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 08:47:25 AM
quote:
Vernaltemptress had this to say about Robocop:
Shall I go on?

Somthor insists that he is better then the EC community by continually doing what he insists on doing because doing otherwise is outside of his comfort zone/control. Therefore, we are of no value to him, so why should we pay any attention to him? Having Somthor on ignore is not enough as some people insist on quoting or discussing Somthor, as you have, so he isn't "all but erased from your existance on these boards."


I dont insist anything but the fact I gotta be free to be ME! your all a bunch of flamers anyhow (pun)

Besides Mrs Bloodsage, If you havent noticed alot of what you quoted has changed, I dont do alot of that stuff as often anymore. I more or less have attempted to conform slightly to the Norms of this Forum.

knit one pearl two

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-17-2004 09:48:36 AM
quote:
The logic train ran off the tracks when Somthor said:
I dont insist anything but the fact I gotta be free to be ME! your all a bunch of flamers anyhow (pun)

Besides Mrs Bloodsage, If you havent noticed alot of what you quoted has changed, I dont do alot of that stuff as often anymore. I more or less have attempted to conform slightly to the Norms of this Forum.

knit one pearl two


Identifying someone solely by their spouse/significant other is one of those low-brow snipes that constitutes "assinine git" flaming.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 09:59:24 AM
you expect better? Sides Mrs Sage there has me on ignore who cares? I dont.
Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael
I posted in a title changing thread.
posted 02-17-2004 10:04:05 AM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Somthor:
Mrs Sage

...Thus further confirming that you are on a deep exploration mission of the far side of the dumbassitude curve. Way to go.

Lyinar's sweetie and don't you forget it!*
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. -Roy Batty
*Also Lyinar's attack panda

sigpic courtesy of This Guy, original modified by me

Gydyon
Yes, I am a lawyer. No you can't sue them for that. Shut up, or I'll have your legs broken.
posted 02-17-2004 10:07:55 AM
It's nice how Somthor proves everyone's points for them with such ease....
Gydyon
Evercrest Lawyer

Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001

Star Collective
Pancake
posted 02-17-2004 10:42:19 AM
Its a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it.
The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist: a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain. - Ursula K. LeGuin ~ The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 02-17-2004 12:43:20 PM
quote:
Somthor had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I dont insist anything but the fact I gotta be free to be ME! your all a bunch of flamers anyhow (pun)

Besides Mrs Bloodsage, If you havent noticed alot of what you quoted has changed, I dont do alot of that stuff as often anymore. I more or less have attempted to conform slightly to the Norms of this Forum.

knit one pearl two


That pretty much says it all, folks, and confirms Vernal's point in the process.

The only people who find this idiot worthwhile are the cowards who enjoy pretending he's their revenge against people they don't like, but haven't the nads to stand up to on their own.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 01:01:13 PM
I stand up on my own thus I must have nads right pop? and since sons are genarly like their fathers it follows they are quite large, bold and made of brass.


"Cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon...."

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Gunslinger Moogle
No longer a gimmick
posted 02-17-2004 01:03:56 PM
quote:
And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Vernaltemptress was all like:
Shall I go on?

Somthor insists that he is better then the EC community by continually doing what he insists on doing because doing otherwise is outside of his comfort zone/control. Therefore, we are of no value to him, so why should we pay any attention to him? Having Somthor on ignore is not enough as some people insist on quoting or discussing Somthor, as you have, so he isn't "all but erased from your existance on these boards."


Mmm...good point. You're right.




moogle is the 3241727861th binary digit of pi

Disclaimer: I'm just kidding, I love all living things.
The fastest draw in the Crest.
"The Internet is MY critical thinking course." -Maradon
"Gambling for the husband, an abortion for the wife and fireworks for the kids they chose to keep? Fuck you, Disneyland. The Pine Ridge Indian Reservation is the happiest place on Earth." -JooJooFlop

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 02-17-2004 01:04:01 PM
Somthor, were you that pathetic little geeky kid in school, who always tried to fit in with the 'cool kids'?

You know, the geeky little pathetic loser, who always wanted to fit in with the big, cool kids, and the second you'd turn your back, they'd burst out laughing about how ridiculous you are.

That's the impression I get from you. You sit here trying to play it cool and act all nonchalant while the greater portion of the boards thinks you're pretty much just a moron. You've managed to get on the bad side of most of the really level-headed, calm and nonjudgemental people on the forums, and you still show you signs that you're gonna change.

If you're just trying to be 'you', trying to be yourself... then I think that you're just plain worthless trash. Sorry man, but you're just pathetic scum. I think you should stop trying to be yourself, because when you try to be yourself, you end up being trash.

Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 02-17-2004 01:05:49 PM
quote:
Somthor had this to say about Matthew Broderick:
I stand up on my own thus I must have nads right pop? and since sons are genarly like their fathers it follows they are quite large, bold and made of brass.


"Cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon...."


That makes no sense whatsoever.

As usual.

Just go away. Jeebus. You lack even the self-respect to remove yourself from a situation where you're universally disliked, and only useful as a tool for spiteful cowards to tweak their betters. Pathetic.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 02-17-2004 01:08:19 PM
quote:
Bloodsage wrote this stupid crap:
Just go away. Jeebus. You lack even the self-respect to remove yourself from a situation where you're universally disliked, and only useful as a tool for spiteful cowards to tweak their betters. Pathetic.

He lacks the self-respect, or lacks the intelligence?

Wait, this is Somthor, I forget. It's both.

No self-respect, no intelligence, no worthwhile qualities to speak of.

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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 01:13:13 PM
quote:
Bloodsage stopped beating up furries long enough to write:
That makes no sense whatsoever.

As usual.

Just go away. Jeebus. You lack even the self-respect to remove yourself from a situation where you're universally disliked, and only useful as a tool for spiteful cowards to tweak their betters. Pathetic.


Hey its all your damn fault if you had spent some quality time with me when I was growning up I wouldnt be the screwed up individual I am today. Was it to much to ask for dad for you to be there for me once in awhile?

Now that the world thinks Im a screw up you suddonly find the time to join them in mocking my failures Yeah I wanted to hang with my father but for christs sakes cant you stop the emoitional abuse and just love me for who I am

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 02-17-2004 01:43:32 PM
quote:
Somthor was naked while typing this:
Hey its all your damn fault if you had spent some quality time with me when I was growning up I wouldnt be the screwed up individual I am today. Was it to much to ask for dad for you to be there for me once in awhile?

Now that the world thinks Im a screw up you suddonly find the time to join them in mocking my failures Yeah I wanted to hang with my father but for christs sakes cant you stop the emoitional abuse and just love me for who I am


Wow. I've been totally pwned. I guess I'll just slink off now, because this retarded rendition of "Luuuke, I am your father," is so witty, so urbane, and so utterly apropos it leaves me no chance for verbal riposte.

To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 01:47:09 PM
Dad, I love your sarcasm, I wish I could do it as well as you do.
Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 02-17-2004 01:55:22 PM
quote:
Somthor was listening to Cher while typing:
Dad, I love your sarcasm, I wish I could do it as well as you do.

Sorry, boy. There's no way gutter trash DNA like yours could have sprung up from the mighty genetic template of the grand 'Sagey You sure your mom didn't just get knocked up and lie to you about your real father?

I think I saw him once on an episode of COPS. He was the naked one running down the street trying to accost some dogs.

Karnaj
Road Warrior Queef
posted 02-17-2004 01:56:42 PM
Holy crap.

That a grown man would conduct himself so ludicrously, even in jest, is beyond me. Wow.

That's the American Dream: to make your life into something you can sell. - Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - John Kenneth Galbraith



Beer.

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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 01:59:23 PM
quote:
This insanity brought to you by Khyron:
Sorry, boy. There's no way gutter trash DNA like yours could have sprung up from the mighty genetic template of the grand 'Sagey You sure your mom didn't just get knocked up and lie to you about your real father?

I think I saw him once on an episode of COPS. He was the naked one running down the street trying to accost some dogs.


hey dont talk about my parents that way, Sage does the best he can with what he has to work with.

sides mom was poor and she needed the money

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 02-17-2004 02:04:50 PM
quote:
Somthor wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
hey dont talk about my parents that way, Sage does the best he can with what he has to work with.

sides mom was poor and she needed the money


You're absolutely right, Sagey does the best he can... which explains why he's still military and you're gutter trash

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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 02:11:34 PM
eeeks not that last i heard i was trailer trash, you meen I have fallen yet another rung?

christ at this rate I'll soon be approaching your social status.

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 02-17-2004 02:18:06 PM
quote:
Somthor attempted to be funny by writing:
eeeks not that last i heard i was trailer trash, you meen I have fallen yet another rung?

christ at this rate I'll soon be approaching your social status.


Approaching my social status? I hate to break it to you, but the last I heard, you can't dig 'up'. Then again, to a stupid man, anything must be possible, so keep digging! Ignorance is bliss, keep telling yourself that!

[ 02-17-2004: Message edited by: Khyron ]

Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 02-17-2004 02:24:00 PM
Wow, I generally don't have anything against Somthor, but he's really starting to get annoying.
"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 02:28:05 PM
sigh why is it I'm always being annoying? after all it takes two to tango why isnt the rest of my dance parteners also annoying?
Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Khyron
Hello, my mushy friend...
posted 02-17-2004 02:29:15 PM
quote:
We were all impressed when Somthor wrote:
sigh why is it I'm always being annoying? after all it takes two to tango why isnt the rest of my dance parteners also annoying?

If you're saying it's not you, it's us...

Then why not leave and go find some dance 'parteners' who are more your style?

I don't think anyone would really miss you if you left.

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can you please fix my title
posted 02-17-2004 02:33:10 PM
nahh im saying its mutal guilt but only I seem to get charged with the crime.

sides you one of my favorite dancing parteners, your buns of steel your lithe body and your limberness. We will win the Dance contest one day Oh yes we will

Im confused as always[xIMG]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/356687/somthorsig3.JPG[/img]
Mortious
Gluttonous Overlard
posted 02-17-2004 02:34:12 PM
I've remained outside this thread for a while, but now I have to enter, because reading it is hilarious.

Continue to entertain me, everyone, and you shall be smiled upon.

Liam
Swims in Erotic Circles
posted 02-17-2004 02:34:56 PM
quote:
Somthor said this about your mom:
nahh im saying its mutal guilt but only I seem to get charged with the crime.

sides you one of my favorite dancing parteners, your buns of steel your lithe body and your limberness. We will win the Dance contest one day Oh yes we will


Save the Last Dance starring Khyron and Somthor.

I'd watch it.

Callalron
Hires people with hooks
posted 02-17-2004 02:38:51 PM
*Starting* to get annoying? He blew past "collosal asshole" long ago.

And while you're so eagerly sharing the joys of your "parentage" Somthor, why not fully embrace you trollish heritage. Let's face it, you're a troll. I know it, 'sage knows it, pretty much everyone else on the boards knows, except for you.

Don't worry, if you do, we won't tell any trollack jokes. Well, not many, anyway.

Callalron
"When mankind finally discovers the center of the universe, a lot of people are going to be upset that it isn't them."
"If you give a man a fish he'll eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish he'll just go out and buy an ugly hat. But if you talk to a starving man about fish, then you've become a consultant."--Dogbert
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Bloodsage
Heart Attack
posted 02-17-2004 02:45:16 PM
We've been trollhacked!
To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven.

--Satan, quoted by John Milton

Alek
Not The Rapist
posted 02-17-2004 02:45:24 PM
Somthor, its not just the fact that you use ridiculous arguments and comebacks, but that you don't know when to quit.
"Love wisdom, and she will make you great. Embrace her, and she will bring you honour. She will be your crowning glory."
-Proverbs 4:8-9
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