How about some of you people with the time and the inclination prove my point for me.
thanks
Let.
It.
Die.
And 'satan mart' has to be the stupidist thing i have ever heard in my entire life.
It's not something people hear about.
Mr gates has given over 500 MILLION to various charities.
none of the Waltons have given anything to anyone but themselves.
If walmart was the same as Microsoft Id have no complaint
But, y'know what? I do still shop there. Going today, in fact, to do that very thing. And why?
They're cheap as anything to buy stuff from.
That's the crux of it, the reason I don't moralize over it or attempt any sort of boycott. I try to support the local businesses around here, but frankly - if I need stuff for very little money, I'm going to WallyWorld. They do what they do - selling crap for low prices - very well. And, for everything bad that they do, I'm pragmatic enough to recognize that if I have the choice of getting a decent amount of stuff with my last $20 or having to choose between caffeine and food for the week of finals, I can stand to support an evil corporate empire. Just a little bit.
Pragmatism wins. Let it go.
Trying to get someone smarter than you to do your work for you by making it a 'challenge' is a pretty stupid ploy, and not likely to work. I think you'd have more luck by simply grovelling on the ground, whining, and acting pathetic until someone actually backed you up out of sheer pity. But then, your chances for that are pretty damn small too.
Wal marts products are genarly cheaper, but if you have to replace the cheap item a few times in a year have you really saved money?
People who shop at wal mart are genarly penny wise dollar stupid.
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When the babel fish was in place, it was apparent Somthor said:
Wal marts products are genarly cheaper, but if you have to replace the cheap item a few times in a year have you really saved money?People who shop at wal mart are genarly penny wise dollar stupid.
I'm talking about buying FOOD. It's not like I'm going to be buying furniture or anything. The quality is low, yes. But I'm a college student. I can live off it for a week, if it means being able to buy caffeinated beverages.
Besides - for most things that Wal-Mart sells here, the only other option is an hour's trip to another city to buy it from Target. This is a small college town - about the only variety you'll find here is in school supplies and alcohol.
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Somthor had this to say about Punky Brewster:
micro soft gives back to the comunity in the terms of scholarships, grants endowments. they have internships and comunity programs. its executives give to charities.Mr gates has given over 500 MILLION to various charities.
none of the Waltons have given anything to anyone but themselves.
If walmart was the same as Microsoft Id have no complaint
Hello.
You are wrong.
Walmart is known for thier community service.
Every store has someone who's sole purpose is to raise money for the Children's Miracle Network. CMNs work HARD, too.
http://www.walmartstores.com/wmstore/wmstores/Mainsearch.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1021472570.1070903148@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadcjjgkgekecfkfcfkjdgoodglg.0&categoryOID=-8248&SearchSelect =Entire+Site&Searchtxt=children%27s+miracle+network
LET IT GO.
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Vorago was listening to Cher while typing:
And people wonder why Somthor is such a scapegoat for the forum? Heh
YOU XENOPHOBIC ASSHOLE! HOW DARE YOU REALIZE THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE IMBECILES! I'LL KILL YOU!
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Somthor obviously shouldn't have said:
Hey I figure it could have worked, people do love challenges. sides groveling doenst cut it for me. I'll just shelve this til another day.Wal marts products are genarly cheaper, but if you have to replace the cheap item a few times in a year have you really saved money?
People who shop at wal mart are genarly penny wise dollar stupid.
Oh, and if you buy the store generic ANYTHING, it won't last as long as a brand name; but walmart sells brand names! In fact, they are the exact same product they sell everyone else. However, you can get it as cheap/cheaper at Wal-mart then at say.. Target or K-mart! For the exact same game system, digital camera, or vaccuum. Now why would you buy it anywhere else?
So let's keep making sweeping generalized statements with no proof, shall we?
Now post another thread so we can show you again that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. [ 12-08-2003: Message edited by: Chief Durkin ]
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Somthor was listening to Cher while typing:
micro soft gives back to the comunity in the terms of scholarships, grants endowments. they have internships and comunity programs. its executives give to charities.Mr gates has given over 500 MILLION to various charities.
none of the Waltons have given anything to anyone but themselves.
If walmart was the same as Microsoft Id have no complaint
most that value of what he's given to charity is microsoft software licences
"Oh, thanks for helping us out by getting us reliant on your product."
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This insanity brought to you by Khyron:
$atanMart is evil! I know they're evil, because I used a $! This means they only care about MONEYS! EVIL ANTICHRIST PEOPLE! HOW DARE THEY RUN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS!
YOU CAN'T TALK THAT WAY TO AN IDIOT! THAT'S XENOPHOBIC! I HATE YOU!
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Gikk wrote this stupid crap:
Oh, and if you buy the store generic ANYTHING, it won't last as long as a brand name; but walmart sells brand names! In fact, they are the exact same product they sell everyone else. However, you can get it as cheap/cheaper at Wal-mart then at say.. Target or K-mart! For the exact same game system, digital camera, or vaccuum. Now why would you buy it anywhere else?So let's keep making sweeping generalized statements with no proof, shall we?
Uh... In a small defense, Wal-Mart has a tendency to be very abusive to their suppliers, using their buying power to leverage those they buy from into using the same "vicious" business strategies that they use. Wal-Mart is one of the few businesses which adopts a "management strategy" for other companies, changing the way they do business or threatening to break contracts for cheaper production companies - and their management strategy is both anti-union and highly cutthroat. It promotes potential employee abuse, and creates a more dangerous work environment as the "cut costs to cut prices" mantra is followed to a sometimes-ludicrous extent. It is in that way that they manage to make prices as low as they are in their store, and yet still turn the profits they do.
Nothing in that is illegal - their coercive force is simply market pressure, and they can't be faulted for turning a profit. But it is still distasteful to my senses. Hence why it is my store of last resort.
It's pointless to think they're Satan incarnate, but they aren't exactly warm and fuzzy either. 
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about the Spice Girls:
YOU XENOPHOBIC ASSHOLE! HOW DARE YOU REALIZE THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE IMBECILES! I'LL KILL YOU!
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YOU CAN'T TALK THAT WAY TO AN IDIOT! THAT'S XENOPHOBIC! I HATE YOU!
You know what the nice thing is about believing the world is going to end tomorrow?
Sooner or later you'll be right.
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El Imán Grande! had this to say about Tron:
You know what the nice thing is about believing the world is going to end tomorrow?Sooner or later you'll be right.
Hobbes said something like that, except it was probably better.
However, Somthor's OMG IF YOU BUY FROM WAL-MART THE PRODUCTS WILL FALL APART AND YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS. was what I WAS replying too.
In an inter-company newsletter, they tell you what the poor product companies have to do. They don't negotiate at ALL. But.. ya know, the product has to be at walmart! So even if they go from a 20 cent profit margin to a 1 cent profit margin, the sheer numbers sold makes it worth it.
Either way, the Canon ZX42a digital camera you get at Wal-mart will be the same one at Kmart, Radio Shack, and Target - it'll just be the cheapest. So unless you buy generic (and all store's generic brands are worse then thier real brands), then it doesn't matter where you buy it.
Somthor's point was anything you buy at walmart, because it's inexpensive, breaks in a year.
When you bring morality into it, it's a whole nother ball of wax.
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Gikk was naked while typing this:
Well, I was tlkaing from a sheer quality/price standpoint.When you bring morality into it, it's a whole nother ball of wax.
Heh. I think morality brings an entirely different standing to most everything there is. Which is why it's good to sometimes be able to go "Yeah, that'd be best... but still, screw it."
Like, oh, today.
And as far as not giving back? Bullshit, the Wal-Marts around here almost ALWAYS sponsor local charities, give aid to needy families, help the unfortunate, and support NUMEROUS cuases. In fact, since we are like poor as shit, and part of the Welfare system due to circumstances, our daughters qualified for the 'Clothe a Child' foundation WHICH WALMART SPONSORS. Which gives each of my girls $50 a piece to go shopping with for new clothes, and in fact they go tomorow for it.
You are SO completely clueless...
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We were all impressed when Faelynn LeAndris wrote:
Whoa... WTF? Pennywise Money stupid? Fuck off, I just Like Wal-Mart for convience, I love the store, as well as being cheap. Also using money to your best advantage as in saving pennies and cents over paying EXTRA money for a 'label' is not money stupid, it's money SMART if you ask me.And as far as not giving back? Bullshit, the Wal-Marts around here almost ALWAYS sponsor local charities, give aid to needy families, help the unfortunate, and support NUMEROUS cuases. In fact, since we are like poor as shit, and part of the Welfare system due to circumstances, our daughters qualified for the 'Clothe a Child' foundation WHICH WALMART SPONSORS. Which gives each of my girls $50 a piece to go shopping with for new clothes, and in fact they go tomorow for it.
You are SO completely clueless...
Fae is hot chix!
that CMN ? thats money raised by wal mart from its employes who had better pay up or else. walmart donates none of its own money. in fact it uses fundraisers as a way of increasing its sales.
Wal mart is simply parsitic
No I cant prove the above statement, I have spent many hours looking and while i see countless statements and references to support my position non of them are what you would call reliable. Simply put I cant find a smoking gun.
here are some links though that talk about my views
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
and this one
http://www.innercitypress.org/wal-mart.html this has the best cites for its sources than any other I have found.
Thinking about your posts
(and billing you for it) since 2001
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Jimmy Carter:
Are you aware that when you openly admit to having nothing but mere opinion and "views" and your opposition has facts and evidence to back up their claims, you lose the argument?
On the Internet, it's not a matter of making sense. It's a matter of yelling loudest, longest.
"If you can't go for reason, go for volume." - Calvin
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Drakkenmaw had this to say about Knight Rider:
On the Internet, it's not a matter of making sense. It's a matter of yelling loudest, longest."If you can't go for reason, go for volume." - Calvin
True, but since he essentially admitted defeat, there is no further need to treat him as though he has a valid argument.
I derail this thread and claim it for the discussion of Winter Drinks.
Scotch on rocks is good for lovers sharing a warm evening on a snowy night.
Boozer.
Hot Cocoa > b00ze. Especially with marshmallows.
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Mr. Parcelan stopped staring at Deedlit long enough to write:
Are you aware that when you openly admit to having nothing but mere opinion and "views" and your opposition has facts and evidence to back up their claims, you lose the argument?
I havent seen my opposition provide anything more than thier opinions and views. The difference is Im trying to say Wal mart is Bad for Smalltown America and for developing countries. Im trying to say they hurt other companies. All the rest of you have to do is say "no you are wrong and prove your statement" I cant do that.
So yes I agree I lost this arguement but please read the two articles I have linked. It will take a while but you will see where I am trying to come from on this. It still wont convince you but hopefully you will understand why I might feel the way I do.
thanks
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Somthor was all like:
The difference is Im trying to say Wal mart is Bad for Smalltown America and for developing countries. Im trying to say they hurt other companies.
I think we've established that we don't care.
