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Faelynn LeAndris had this to say about Tron:
[QB].In fact I personally couldn't stand anything Tolkein wrote. Trying to read his works was like torture for me... I tried, I tried several times, in fact I tried again right before the first movie came out, and it STILL bored me to tears to no end. I'd be lucky if I didn't fall asleep just trying to get into it. It's a great story and idea, but I could never get into the books and found them droll. The movies, for me at least, took out a lot of the boring idealisms I couldn't handle in the books, and catered more to making a really good, really entertaining movie experience for me. While still getting the original intent in plots, at least close enough, to where the story progresses as expected, but without putting the viewer to sleep within the first few minutes.
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I feel about the same too. I've tried to get through the trilogy twice and put it down both times halfway through the two towers. So many people like it though, so I guess I'm missing
something
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Addy had this to say about Robocop:
I know exactly how you feel. Glad I'm not the only one who can't stand Tolkien's writings. =) Great imagination, but his writing style just bored me to tears.
When I read the books I took the same approach I did when I had to read Verne's work, I just skipped the pages till he got back to the story. I still remember when I read 20000 Leagues under the sea, there was a few parts that was just 3-4 pages were he listed fish seen.
"Based on the book" is to "accurate" as "based on a true story" is to "really happened."
"Fire in the Sky" taught me this.
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There was much rejoicing when Kegwen said this:
Don't mean to bandwagon, but I feel the same way.
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I share your view on TTT, though. It did not stay with the spirit of the book. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, and frankly I wouldn't want it to be. But I was expecting Jackson to do the same as he had done with Fellowship: stick to the spirit of the novel. And in that, he failed horribly. He warped more than one of the much-loved characters of TTT, he didn't cover the main points of the story, and as you said, he *made up* things that were completely out of left field for no conceiveable reason. The spirit of TTT was not present in that movie. It was a good movie as a fantasy movie, but it should have been called something else.
And for those who say that anytime a book comes to film it will be different from the book, bullshit. The last two Harry Potter books have been amazingly true to the film. The characters have been retained as they are in the books, and are even better in my opinion to actually be able to give them voice and flesh, the major plot points are covered, and many of the character development scenes were able to be left in. Things like the midnight duel, and the Deathday party from the books have been left out, but those were extras, little side things to make the story interesting. The overall spirit of Harry Potter has been present in both the first and second movies.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
I like involved stories, but I'd just as soon gouge my eyes out as read LOTR again.
Can't comment on TTT, didn't see it at the theatre and I'd rather wait for the director's cut to buy the DVD.
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This one time, at Lyinar Ka`Bael camp:
And for those who say that anytime a book comes to film it will be different from the book, bullshit. The last two Harry Potter books have been amazingly true to the film. The characters have been retained as they are in the books, and are even better in my opinion to actually be able to give them voice and flesh, the major plot points are covered, and many of the character development scenes were able to be left in. Things like the midnight duel, and the Deathday party from the books have been left out, but those were extras, little side things to make the story interesting. The overall spirit of Harry Potter has been present in both the first and second movies.
Yeah, but in that case the author had as much input into the movie as the director did. Had Tolkein been here for this... well, I don't know how it would've done. 
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Kegwen had this to say about Optimus Prime:
Yeah, but in that case the author had as much input into the movie as the director did. Had Tolkein been here for this... well, I don't know how it would've done.
I'm quite sure Tolkein clearly stated that he never wanted his books made into a movie/TV show because he wanted the world of Middlearth completely in your imagination. ie: An Uruk-Hai (sp?) IS what you imagine. [ 09-06-2003: Message edited by: Bummey the Fool ]
I have read the books. I love the books. However I think that the movies did a BETTER job than the books.
Then it's a nice relaxing read. 
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Quoth OtakuPenguin:
It's a movie...it's a GOOD movie.Jesus, who gives a fuck if it doesn't follow the book? Overlook it and enjoy the movie.
Urgh.
Who gives a fuck? All of the Tolkein fans who were told by the director how true to the books he was going to be.
Have you not read a thing I've said?
It's an all-right movie, though I think it drags a bit, but it has nothing to do with the story it claims to be. I refer you to my earlier pie/steak analogy.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Shazorx / Modrakien had this to say about Cuba:
The scourging of the shire has been confirmed to be cut.
WHAT?! 
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Koosh Man's account was hax0red to write:
WHAT?!
Yeah Jackson said it in an interview after TTT was launched iirc. It wouldn't fit into the flow of a movie because apparently the focus is to be on the large battles and Mount Doom and tacking on a side-plot after the main one is resolved wouldn't be good.
I'm not sure a bigger load of hilarious hypocrisy exists.
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Mr. Parcelan had this to say about Reading Rainbow:
I notice the majority of people who say they hate Tolkien also love Robert Jordan and his asswiping material.I'm not sure a bigger load of hilarious hypocrisy exists.
I dislike both equally.
Give me George R R Martin any day.
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ACES! Another post by Zair:
I dislike both equally.Give me George R R Martin any day.
Hell yeah, brother. The only thing wrong with his books is ALL THE FUCKING INCEST AND PEDOPHILIA! AAPJFOSHGIYHSUYVBUTYGUWF
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Ja'Deth Issar Ka'bael said this about your mom:
If they'd done what they did with the first of the trilogy, I could have understood. Leaving Tom Bombadil and Goldberry out? Sure. The Barrow-Wights? Okay. In retrospect, leaving them out wasn't a core element of the tale. They included all the major important aspects.
I may be misremembering, but isn't the Barrow-Wights pop into importantness in RoTK? Either Merry or Pippen backstabs the main Ring Wraith and kills him because it was a blade he took from the Barrow that was forged long before to fight the Shadow or some such.
Edit: Spoiler text is hidden... [ 09-06-2003: Message edited by: Alaan ]
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Addy had this to say about pies:
I know exactly how you feel. Glad I'm not the only one who can't stand Tolkien's writings. =) Great imagination, but his writing style just bored me to tears.
I know I'm repeating/bandwagoning, but I really agree. I managed through the Hobbit, I balked partway through FotR and never went back...
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Mr. Parcelan wrote this stupid crap:
I notice the majority of people who say they hate Tolkien also love Robert Jordan and his asswiping material.I'm not sure a bigger load of hilarious hypocrisy exists.
The only Robert Jordan book I can think of that I enjoyed enough to read its entirity is Through The Ice which he did with Peirs Anthony.
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Channeling the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, Mr. Parcelan absently fondled Watson and proclaimed:
Hell yeah, brother. The only thing wrong with his books is ALL THE FUCKING INCEST AND PEDOPHILIA! AAPJFOSHGIYHSUYVBUTYGUWF
That, and the minute you sort of start to like a particular character, he or she is immediately killed or maimed in the most horrible fashion.
--Satan, quoted by John Milton
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Bloodsage probably says this to all the girls:
That, and the minute you sort of start to like a particular character, he or she is immediately killed or maimed in the most horrible fashion.
Poor Bran
Martin is truly a master
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Alaan wrote this then went back to looking for porn:
I may be misremembering, but isn't the Barrow-Wights pop into importantness in RoTK? Either Merry or Pippen backstabs the main Ring Wraith and kills him because it was a blade he took from the Barrow that was forged long before to fight the Shadow or some such.Edit: Spoiler text is hidden...
They may fix that by saying that it was the knives of Galadriel that did it or somesuch. That wouldn't be too bad of a fix.
Lyinar Ka`Bael, Piney Fresh Druidess - Luclin
Oh...wait...
Seriously folks, if it yanks your chain that badly, don't go see it. If it doesn't, go see it. Or reverse it. Or take it to court or do SOMETHING about it other then tell us how the movie made you wretch because of such and such. I thought the Arwen stuff was just stupid, with her going West or at least appearing to go West but ya know what, telling everyone how it wasn't in the book is not going to fix it. Let it rest. Stop beating a dead horse. Let sleeping dogs lie and so forth...
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And I was all like 'Oh yeah?' and Elvish Crack Piper was all like:
If ya care that much about it 'sage why not get whatever Air Force special forces there are to go smash of the director a little.
Now that'd be worth the price of admission!
~_^
Fuck.
